I contacted Fr. Hewko who said he still believes Ambrose is a valid Bishop and all docuмents on the website https://ambrosemoran.wordpress.com/page/2/ proves that he's a valid Bishop

We have discussed this here before , so why I'm opening this thread?

I'd like you to help me find the most/evident lie of Ambrose to reply to Fr. Hewko to show that at best Ambrose is a liar.

This https://ambrosemoran.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/ambrose0025.jpg "proves" he was consecrated bishop by Cardinal Slypj according to Fr Hewko but why this docuмent is in english? Why there's no docuмent regarding 1974 Priest ordination?

Please help me. After I reply Fr. Hewko I won't touch this subject again and if they want to go with Ambrose thing, them is up to them and I'll not worry anymore

P.S: Is this Cardinal Slypj ? With Paul VI? https://www.tcdsb.org/schools/josyfcardinalslipyj/news/2014-2015/jcsday/JCardSlipyj%202015%20(12).JPG

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Please help me. After I reply Fr. Hewko I won't touch this subject again and if they want to go with Ambrose thing, them is up to them and I'll not worry anymore

That's good.  Now if a few hundred others will swear off the subject, as well,that would be even better.  Please ask Fr. Hewko, not whether "Ambrose" is a valid bishop, but why OLMC has thought it necessary to have anything to  do with him the first place.  Why do Frs. P and H need another bishop?  An honest answer to that question will produce all the information that anyone really needs to know.

I agree but If I don't prove to Fr. Hewko that he's lying.

I've send this picture though

http://i.imgur.com/kzY9W4J.jpg

Father Hewko can believe anything he wants.  Problem is that Ambrose has to PROVE it.

Yeah, they're trying to shift the burden of proof onto those who question Ambrose rather than the way it should be, on those who believe him.

Fr. P follows his agenda. He wants to become a bishop. Rather than to be discreet and to wait until Bishop Faure comes and then introduce him to Bishop Ambrose, this bishop was filmed. Without having respect for our two bishops and sons of Archbishop Lefenbre, these two priests actions looks like acts of rebels. Father H. also made an interview with bishop Ambrose. Where is the humility? Humility includes: not to rely on the own judgment but to consult the two bishops. Above all, not to go out in public with the NEW Bishop before the other two bishops have not accepted and presented him! Are the priests naive? NOT fr. P! He knows to play chess very well! He follows his agenda and Pablo helps him because: "he gets things done!" So what's the plan behind? Fr.P said in his sermon on the feast of St. Therese, our bishops are only the Bishops of the SSPX (Bishop W. and Bishop F.) , very smart. He has to say it! The bishops were frightened by the behavior of these two priests with Bishop Ambrose. They will be careful with this group, and now it's his (Fr.P) turn. After he scare the two bishops, he can go around and say in the next sermons: "I am innocent, these bishops simply do not come, what should I do? I have to save the work of Archbishop Lefebvre! So I need Bishop Ambrose help!"
And after a few time, he must not only save the work of the Archbishop, but the entire world, so he has to become a bishop! Mission accomplished!  :reporter:

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Without having respect for our two bishops and sons of Archbishop Lefenbre, these two priests actions looks like acts of rebels.

That is a kind assessment indeed.  To say that their actions look like acts of rebellion, or have the appearance of rebellion against the " the two bishops and sons of Abp. Lefebvre," is putting it rather mildly, IMO.  I look at it this way:  Fr. Pfeiffer thinks he is continuing in the manner established by the Archbishop in the early days of the SSPX.  Bp. Williamson says, in essence, that those days are over.  We need to go another way.  Fr. Pfeiffer then accuses the bishop of refusing to lead, i.e. refusing to follow the model set up by Fr. P.  So this priest picks up his toys, and leaves in a snit.  He's been in snit ever since.  The two Boston, KY priests are now, apparently, in open rebellion.  They've dredged up a phony bishop just to prove that there's more than one way to skin a cat.  "So there," say they, "we'll show you." :furtive:

If they are playing chess, that means they have are in sin by  using POLITIC TACTICS in the Catholic Church.

WHO ELSE USES POLITICS TACTICS IN CATHOLIC CHURCH? ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!

Whatever their agenda is I don't care but you should also tell them (if you are at least 70% sure) Ambrose is fraud that if they continue with this insanity mentality they will have to distance themselves in PUBLIC from Dom Marcel Lefebvre work.

I'll say to Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko that they can no longer continue if they don't contact Bishop Williamson and Bishop Faure. Whatever the Bishops say, they must obey them or say in public they will be independent priests. Period.

Thread title is misleading, methinks.