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Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2025, 04:33:13 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/entertainment/books/1999/10/03/the-good-pilgrim/ba58bc7f-fcd3-42b8-8093-22fc0541f3c6/
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Initially, this led Poland's leaders to totally misread Wojtyla as someone who could be easily manipulated. In the early 1960s, party ideologist Zenon Kliszko vetoed seven candidates the church put forward to be bishops. "I'm waiting for Wojtyla," Kliszko said, "and I'll continue to veto names until I get him." He got him all right. In 1964, Wojtyla was installed as archbishop of Krakow. But the authorities soon would regret their decision.

Would they, George?  Would they?

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In late 1963, after Cardinal Eugeniusz Baziak’s death, the Kraków see was vacant. The Polish Church proposed several candidates for archbishop, but each needed the regime’s “approval.” Zenon Kliszko—one of the most powerful Party ideologues and close associate of Władysław Gomułka—personally handled Church appointments for the government.

Over several months, Kliszko vetoed seven names proposed by the Vatican and by the Polish hierarchy. When asked why, he told Catholic intellectual Stanisław Stomma, “I’m waiting for Wojtyła, and I’ll continue to veto names until I get him.”

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Offline Giovanni Berto

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2025, 09:18:02 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on October 24, 2025, 04:08:44 PM
I would really like to find out more about that family who pressured Archbishop Lefebvre into including +Fellay among the consecrands ... and dig into why.  Could he have been a plant right out of the gate?  Not only was Bishop Wililamson proposed when they were going to allow one, but +Fellay hadn't initially been on the list of three either.

Reminds me of Weigel's story about Wojtyla, where Wojtyla had not been on any of the lists proposed to the Commie official who had to approve all episcopal appointments, and he kept vetoing the proposals until he just cut to the chase and bluntly said, "I will only have Wojtyla."

It seems that Bp. Fellay was consecrated only because he is a Swiss. It could be interesting to know what were the other SSPX Swiss priests avaliable and why he was the one chosen over them. I know he had an administrative position, but how did he get there in the first place? This part of the tale has not been told so far.
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Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2025, 08:45:15 AM »
Yes, that's the narrative that some Swiss family (benefactors) went and pressured +Lefebvre to include a Swiss, but ... did they want just any Swiss priest or did they single our Fellay in particular, and was it REALLY just because he was Swiss, and not because this family were trying to get some infiltrator into the episcopal ranks right out of the gate.

That's why I'd like to know more about who this family were.  Unfortunately, +Lefebvre made some poor decisions under pressure at times ... and now we have that one family (tied to Roschilds) infiltrating SSPX via the agency of Krah.
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Offline Twice dyed

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2025, 11:07:29 AM »
Quote from: Giovanni Berto on October 24, 2025, 09:18:02 PM
It seems that Bp. Fellay was consecrated only because he is a Swiss. It could be interesting to know what were the other SSPX Swiss priests avaliable and why he was the one chosen over them. I know he had an administrative position, but how did he get there in the first place? This part of the tale has not been told so far.
Originally from the site"Nonpossumus".
Strange influencers in the Fsspx . Two priests who warned about this seer were '" destroying the unity of the FsspX ! This was the mind of Bishop Fellay , believing a woman ...


https://ia601601.us.archive.org/7/items/fellay-and-madame-rossiniere/Fellay%20and%20Madame%20Rossiniere.pdf

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Here is a little-known story that testifies to the gross lack of judgment and recklessness of the Superior General of the SSPX. This event, which occurred in 1995, is fully proven as it was reported in number 60 of Cor Unum, the official internal bulletin of the FSSPX.

At that time there was in Switzerland a "privileged soul" who claimed to have ties to Heaven. She recorded her “spiritual writings” for many years, between 1947 and 1969. She wrote hundreds and hundreds of pages after having founded, supposedly inspired by the Holy Spirit, “Los Hogares de Cristo-Sacerdote”. It was Father Lovey (son of Mr. Lovey, who convinced Monsignor Lefebvre to ordain Monsignor Fellay as a bishop) who
introduced her to Monsignor Fellay after having discovered this "messenger from Heaven"
in 1995. And Monsignor Fellay was dazzled, as can be see his statements in number 60 of Cor Unum. Without further investigation and based solely on his intuition, the Superior
General approved this "beautiful work" in these terms:
« The work presented here, although it falls within the range of private revelation, fits perfectly with our statutes, as well as with the current struggle. (...) There is something unattractive on the surface, but no matter how little time we scratch a little, a treasure of
grace springs up, we are witnesses. Covered in several of its parts with the seal of the Church, this work seems invested with sufficient authenticity so that we do not hesitate, ..."

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Written articles by the Fsspx in the Cor Unum of the time . What!!?
Part of the Society's bad baggage ...




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Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2025, 12:41:25 PM »
Yes, I know about the alleged seer, but would love to see info on who it was who pressured +Lefebvre into consecrating +Fellay.

As for "seers", strange that nobody concludes that +Fellay is insane and incapable of validly confecting Sacraments, but +Thus is, because he fell for that one in Palmar.
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