Author Topic: Fellay interview March 2016 (Read 2160 times)

Recusant Sede · « **on:** March 23, 2016, 04:11:08 PM »

http://www.dici.org/en/multimedia/6-visits-of-prelates-sent-by-rome-any-open-doctrinal-questions/

http://sspx.org/en/interview-bp-bernard-fellay

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #1 on:** March 24, 2016, 06:16:52 PM »

Weak, uninspiring leadership...another Good Friday. We'll hear about what the Pharisees did so long ago. We won't hear anything about what they're doing now...that would make you an "αnтι-ѕємιтє"...Our Lord called it "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan". As He looked down through the ages He saw His greatest enemy. Now some people refer to them as the Rothschild Khazarian Mafia...Please let's have some relevant homilies...

hollingsworth · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2016, 12:32:56 PM »

NC Bill:

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Weak, uninspiring leadership...another Good Friday. We'll hear about what the Pharisees did so long ago. We won't hear anything about what they're doing now...that would make you an "αnтι-ѕємιтє"...Our Lord called it "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan". As He looked down through the ages He saw His greatest enemy. Now some people refer to them as the Rothschild Khazarian Mafia...Please let's have some relevant homilies...

Count on +Fellay. His droning, insipid diatribes never amount to more than a kind of running in place. Inspiring stem winders they are not! He will never identify Rome's ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan by name. Oh no. This bishop points, simply, to "undefined forces," working their will in the Holy See and in the world. My goodness, when shall we be rid of the man? When will his mesmerized zombie followers finally cry "Enough! and spit him out of the Superior Generalship?
+Fellay says that "the only thing that matters is the saving of souls." If that be the case then I can testify resoundingly, that after 10 years in the SSPX under H.E.'s leadership, my soul had become utterly lost. I wandered hopeless, thirsty in a desert land.
In the midst of the present chaos, only one (traditional) bishop prescribes any kind of practical remedy for spiritual survival going forward. Bp. Williamson tells us constantly to say fifteen decades of the Rosary daily; to pray for the consecration of Russia to Mary's Immaculate Heart; to wear the Brown Scapular: to read and re-read the Poem of the Man God.
+Williamson also, as I understand him, recommends that we read, read, read, keeping abreast of, to the best of our ability, what is going on, and has gone on historically in the real world of politics and religion. These things I endeavor always to do. It sure beats listening to a man who, for me anyway, has lost touch with the real situation, who can do nothing more, seemingly, than sit around and observe what he thinks are emerging trends in the NO church and among the young Catholic faithful.

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2016, 01:23:50 PM »

I split the Faithful into various groups. Predominantly you have conservatives and traditionalists. When speaking to conservatives you have to keep the conservation as superficial as possible. Just skim the surface of the topic. You can use terms such as " liberal", " conservative"...maybe a "globalist" ( the Alex Jones devotees ). Under no conditions can you use the "J" word ( the only people in the world who can't be mentioned by name ). Neither can they bear "Zionist" ( our allies who, given their espionage and fαℓѕє fℓαg terrorism, are no allies )...or "Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ" ( come on, how bad can they be? After all, the Founding Fathers were Masons. )...The Palestinians ( thrown under the bus by the Gulf State Wahabis who are aligned with тαℓмυdia -Israel), don't belong in Palestine. "fαℓѕє fℓαg terror" ( like Operatiion Gladio-revealed by then Italian President Cossiga) isn't in their vocabulary. Everything is a "conspiracy theory " until they see it on Fox News. You also can't mention terms like "illuminati" or "Rothschild Khazarian Mafia"...or even "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan"...When it comes to foreign affairs America can do no wrong. Our allies can do no wrong. Everything America does is Providential. If our Jєωιѕн friends want us to destroy a country they no doubt deserve it. Most of the people who attend the SSPX chapels usually are there because 1. they like " the way the Mass sounds in Latin"....and 2. " they want to protect their girls". Period. That's it...That's the kind of inspiring militancy you can expect. Really, the enemy has nothing to fear from this crowd. Personally I think this is more than just me being able to chant my Latin on Sunday..And I can "protect" my little girl by myself... :reporter:

hollingsworth · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2016, 01:49:48 PM »

NC. Bill:

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Most of the people who attend the SSPX chapels usually are there because 1. they like " the way the Mass sounds in Latin"....and 2. " they want to protect their girls". Period. That's it...That's the kind of inspiring militancy you can expect. Really, the enemy has nothing to fear from this crowd. Personally I think this is more than just me being able to chant my Latin on Sunday..And I can "protect" my little girl by myself... :reporter:

Exactly. The mantra we normally hear from our friends in SSPX goes something like this:

"SSPX has got valid priests and valid Masses. It's all about saving our own souls. We don't worry about the other stuff, etc."

As you say our implacable enemy has nothing to fear from this.

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #5 on:** March 26, 2016, 10:11:38 AM »

"have to keep the conversation as superficial as...." Obviously not conservation...in a rush as always..at least in our prayers on Good Friday we still pray for the " faithless Jєωs" who rejected Isiah and rejected the Messiah. Not so in the NO..

Wessex · « **Reply #6 on:** March 26, 2016, 02:02:11 PM »

Unfortunately, there was always an element of appeasement within the SSPX mission which would not challenge modern reality head on. When confronted, the leadership would always repeat "no competence" and retreat into its religious bubble. Not all members were heroic and some would talk very vaguely of enemies of the Church. This was something they would inherit from the pre-V2 situation where Catholics were quite happily living in both worlds, serving God and man. The traditionalist movement had an opportunity to reinstate the Social Kingship but our attention was mainly directed towards liturgical taste and building a comfort zone away from the horrors of this world. The corralling nature of organisations that were formed was I am sure there to discourage anything unsettlingly militant leading over time to the grovelling capitulation now practised by Bp. Fellay.

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #7 on:** March 26, 2016, 05:15:41 PM »

As Fr. Chazal replied once to a question fm J.N. ( "what are you gonna do about...." ) "well, you can't expect us to be able to do much because we're so small in number but conferences like this serve to at least give people an understanding of how things should be, the importance of the Social Reign of Christ the King...." That's what bothers me; we can't even get people to THINK in a militant way for Christ...The lack of militancy is the reason I often don't see a REAL difference btwn the NO and the SSPX.
Obviously this is the problem the Church in America has always had: It's the essence of the error of the Separation of Church and State, official ambivalence. Under this arrangement the various Churches ( most illegitimate ) can enjoy their 501C3 tax exempt status as long as they don't expose any of the dark things the oligarchy ( ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic ) is doing. Which, in effect, makes the Church a collaborator with these odious people. And yet much of the American clergy thought this Americanist arrangement was just peachy-especially just before Vatican II. Of course other countries ignore ( are hostile to ) Our Lord's Kingship through His Church's teaching authority but our country is the first founded w/o an official religion..it's Constitution not even mentioning our Lord. Actually the official religion is actually Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ..
It was a Catholic nun who exposed how it was the western-backed terrorists ( recruited, trained, funded by CIA, Israel, Saudis-Qataris..transit provided mostly by the Turks ) that gassed the kids ( kidnapped from Latakia 10 days prior ) in al-Ghouta a couple of yrs. ago..Caring about what's actually going on out there, imagine that.