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Re: +Fellay's Fatal Flaw?
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2021, 09:42:33 AM »
King St. Louis IX was a REAL saint:
“A Christian should argue with a blasphemer only by running his sword through his bowels as far as it will go.”

Bring back the good old days!


Re: +Fellay's Fatal Flaw?
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2021, 03:36:06 PM »
What if the "other" is with the resistance or a sedevacantes?
Attending Mass at a Resistance or Sedevacantist chapel, or holding to those opinions is not infallibly heretical or evidence of apostasy.  These are opinions, however strongly held, and can therefore be discussed and debated without sin.  I generally don’t consider myself a Sedevacantist, however, I am open to discussion because Sedevacantists have several convincing arguments.  
Conversely, take this topic to Broadstairs.  Someone knocks on +Bp. Williamson’s door wanting to dialogue that 2+2=5.  How much time will His Excellency give him?  


Re: +Fellay's Fatal Flaw?
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2021, 11:00:54 PM »
The following, with the quote from Bishop Fellay, is taken from Fr Edward MacDonald's Epiphany Sermon:

 

Baptised children need to be taught the truths of Faith. When they reach the age of
reason they must make an act of Faith and determine to grow in a knowledge of the Faith. By being taught and studying especially the catechism.

 

Vatican Council II changed this. The Council rejected the mission that Our Lord Jesus
Christ had given the Church:
Go and teach ye all nations baptising them in the Name of the Father
and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.

 

The Council preferred to discuss things with unbelievers and perhaps learn from them.

 

Bishop Bernard Fellay, SSPX, imitating Pope Francis, aka “Papa
Humble” equates this with humility. “A humble person is open to the other. He lets the other person speak. He always finds something to learn or receive from others, because he considers himself small in God’s sight.”1 What Saint has ever found something to learn from unbelievers or heretics?

 

Can you imagine St. Teresa of Avila asking What does Herr Doctor Martin Luther have to say? No, rather in her great and true humility she said we reject what he says. Likewise St. Anthony, the Hammer of heretics, knew in his true humility,that his mission was to convert the Cathars not to learn from them. He had the truth, they were in error.



1 For the Love of the Church: Interview with Bishop Bernard Fellay by Robert Landers, Angelus Press 2020, p.47, emphasis added
Please provide the full context.  How do you know this is not something akin to St. Paul's "be subject to all men"?  Are you sure he was referring to other religions?  

Re: +Fellay's Fatal Flaw?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2021, 11:00:46 AM »
Why does it matter what Bishop Fellay thinks?

There are 1000s of bishops ranging from conservative to liberal.  They are nearly all more liberal than him.  I suspect +Vigano is more liberal in many ways.

So why does the resistance, which is now getting on for 9 years old not build itself up rather than focusing on what it considers to be yet another modernist compromised bishop like Fellay?  He's not even running the SSPX any longer.

Tell people what the Resistance is, rather than what you are not.

Re: +Fellay's Fatal Flaw?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2021, 12:13:42 PM »
I sort of agree about the irrelevance of the SSPX as a keeper of traditional Faith.

They’re like a cadaver in a med school lab that we Catholic militants keep examining to confirm the autopsy report.

The SSPX body is preserved in formalin, but we can still see evidence of the diseases that killed it:

Gallicanism, masonry, ecuмenism,
Love of the world $, moral cowardice, arrogance, sex scandals,...etc.

The Society’s corpse is good for educational purposes of how not to lead Catholic tradition.