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Marlelar · « **Reply #10 on:** August 29, 2017, 10:42:07 PM »

I think a good priest should imitate the Cure of Ars.

If he's handy that's a bonus, but the men in the parish should be taking care of that side of things.

I'm curious, does seminary training include financial management classes?

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #11 on:** August 30, 2017, 08:09:18 AM »

Quote from: Marlelar on August 29, 2017, 10:42:07 PM

I think a good priest should imitate the Cure of Ars.

The Cure of Ars won over the respect of all the men (farmers) in his parish by knowing more about their job than they did. His father did not want to let him go to the priesthood because he was the best worker of all his children. That is one way you win over men. Another is sincerity, which I describe as that the men know with certainty that a person would jump in front of a bullet to save their lives, that the priest is totally dedicated to their welfare, not his own.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #12 on:** January 10, 2018, 11:50:22 AM »

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Another is sincerity, which I describe as that the men know with certainty that a person would jump in front of a bullet to save their lives, that the priest is totally dedicated to their welfare, not his own.

Priests dedicated to their own welfare are like Protestant ministers, in it to make a living, in it for their own comforts. The reaction of the faithful to these "hireling" priests will be no different than the America Indian reaction described below. Unfortunately, few priests will heed this advice, very few men ever change their ways, scarcely any.

From:The Life of Fr. De Smet, Apostle of the Rockies:

Pg 176 -

How is the phenomenal success of these missions to be explained? Many of the Indians possessed admirable natural virtues; they but needed to know Christianity to embrace it. Even the most degraded had preserved a high ideal of the greatness of the power of God. Blasphemy was unknown among them: not presuming to address the “Great Spirit,” they entreated their manitous to intercede for them. Superstition if you will, but beneath it was a religious sentiment which the missionary had only to enlighten and direct. None held back through false pride or prejudice. Even the Sioux, the proudest of the Western tribes, compared themselves to children bereft of a father’s guiding hand, and to the ignorant animals of the prairie, and with touching humility begged the missionary to “take pity on them.”

Such elevated, upright souls could, moreover, appreciate the chastity of the Catholic priesthood. With rare discernment, the Indian understood that, belonging as he does to all men, a priest cannot give himself to one person, and not for an instant did they hesitate to choose the Black Robe, who had consecrated his life to them, rather than the minister in lay dress, installed in a comfortable home with wife and children, devoted to the interests of his family, giving only the time that remained to distributing Bibles”.

Pg 52 - The Indians, meanwhile, were not overlooked. Dispossessed of their lands and driven west by the whites, they now found refuge and support in the Catholic Church. A considerable number of them, whose fathers had been instructed and baptized by the Jesuits, were well disposed toward Catholicity. Protestant ministers made repeated attempts to gain their confidence, but were always coldly received." "What had they to do," asked the Indians, "with married preachers, men who wore no crucifix, and said no rosary? They wanted only the Black Robes to teach them how to serve God. They even went so far as to appeal to the President of the United States, asking that the married ministers might be recalled and Catholic priests sent in their place."

Pg 117 - I was given the place of honor in the chief's tent, who, surrounded by forty of his braves, addressed me in the following words: 'Black Robe, this is the happiest day of our lives, for to-day, for the first time, we see in our midst a man who is near to the Great Spirit. These are the principal warriors of my tribe. I have invited them to the feast I have prepared for you, that they may never forget the great day.""'

It seems strange that with the savages the fact of being a Catholic priest merited a triumphal reception for the lowly missionary, while in other times, and to men proud of their civilization, he would have been the object of suspicion. During the repast the great chief showered attentions on his guest, even to giving him a mouthful of his own food to chew, a refined usage among his tribe.

At night, after the missionary had retired and was about to fall asleep, he saw the chief who had received him with so much honor, enter his tent. Brandishing a knife that gleamed in the light of the torch, he said: "Black Robe, are you afraid?" The missionary, taking the chief's hand, placed it on his breast and replied: "See if my heart beats more rapidly than usual! Why should I be afraid? You have fed me with your own hands, and I am as safe in your tent as I would be in my father's house." Flattered by this reply, the Blackfoot renewed his professions of friendship; he had wished only to test the confidence of his guest.

Pg 86 - Protestant ministers tried to compete with the Catholic priests; but between a salaried official who distributed tracts to inquisitive members of the tribe, and the missionary, devoted body and soul to their interests, the Indians did not hesitate to make a choice." They refused the most alluring offers from Protestants and came from all directions to ask for a Black Robe to show them the way to heaven.

"After five years' residence with the Otoes, the Protestant minister has not yet baptized one person, and the greater part of the Protestant missionaries who overrun the Indian Territory make no better showing." (Letter of Father De Smet to Father Verhaegen, June, 1838.)

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #13 on:** January 10, 2018, 12:07:19 PM »

From another CI thread, here is an example of a good priest who dedicated himself 100% to the faithful, the late Fr. Carl Pulvemacher, OFM Capuchin R.,I.P
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/wwfcd-what-would-fr-carl-do/msg540927/#msg540927

Fr. Carl was adored and loved by everyone, not because he was a great manager or sermonist, for he did not excel in either, he was loved because of his sincerity and poverty. Look at all his accomplishments. Fr. Carl learned to fly a plane as a passenger going to the missions in the Rockies. Fr. Carl learned from his mistakes.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #14 on:** January 10, 2018, 12:19:30 PM »

Perhaps others can add information here about Fr. Bolduc?

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