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« on: August 30, 2012, 10:27:25 PM »
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  • Father Pfeiffer told us a few days ago about the high ranking Freemason, Dan Rather, who interviewed Bishop Fellay and the SSPX on his television program. He said if a HIGH RANKING FREEMASON IS PRAISING THE SSPX THEN SOMETHING'S WRONG!!!  Well, it costs $2.00 to watch it so I didn't want to waste my money but I did copy and paste their advertisement...here it is...:

    HDNet’s “Dan Rather Reports” Examines the Church’s Return To Conservative Catholicism

    December 07 2010 12:23 PM EST


     
    Is the Pope supporting a movement to bring the Church back to pre-Vatican II practices? – TONIGHT, Tuesday, December 7 at 8:00 p.m. ET
     
    DALLAS (December 7, 2010) – Tonight, “Dan Rather Reports” investigates some subtle changes – and some not so subtle – that may indicate a conservative shift in the Roman Catholic Church. Is Pope Benedict the XVI supporting these changes, or simply trying to heal rifts within the Church itself?
     
    In the 1960s, under Pope John XXIII, and Pope Paul VI, the Second Ecuмenical Council of the Vatican, or Vatican II made changes to the Roman Catholic liturgy including conducting Mass in the native vernacular, instead of Latin, and allowing priests to face the congregation. These changes made it look as if a new more liberal view would shape the Church in the coming years.
     
    However, it seems as if lately, and somewhat quietly, the Church is slowly becoming more conservative under Pope Benedict XVI.
     
    One of the bigger indicators of this shift is the Vatican bringing a group called “The Priestly Society of St. Pius X,” (or SSPX) back into the fold. The group was excommunicated in the 1980′s for being too conservative in their practices after Vatican II.
     
    Bishop Bernard Fellay, head of the SSPX tells Dan Rather in a rare television interview his thoughts on Vatican II.
     
    “And the result is there. The fruits are there. It’s a disaster. The Church now, in many countries is not far from collapse,” said Fellay.
     
    However, there are others who had hoped the changes of Vatican II would present a Church that was more liberal and less tied to ancient dogma. Former Catholic Priest Ed Flavahan is one of those who are disappointed with the Church’s shift.
     
    “There are a lot of people who are angry at the Catholic Church and the hierarchy and its solemn pronouncements and they’re being driven from the Church,” Flavahan tells Rather. “I want to be with these people even if it means being called an outcast.”
     
    However, some Church experts believe that the reinstatement of the leadership of SSPX is simply the Pope’s attempt to repair schisms to create a more united Church.
     
    Should Catholics expect a return to the days before Vatican II? Find out tonight on HDNet.


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    « Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 11:05:53 PM »
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  • To be fair, Dan Rather appears to be praising the ex-Catholic priest Ed Flavahan also.



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    « Reply #2 on: August 30, 2012, 11:21:46 PM »
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  • Dan Rather, freemason.

    One of his early freemasonic temporal rewards
    was the sudden elevation of his news media career for lying to the American public about the Kennedy assasination.

    The American public was banned from viewing the incredible Zapruder film which captured the ghastly mechanics of the murder.


    Zapruder film

    Dan Rather was one of the "masonic elite" selected to view the film and report to the American public what he saw.  
    Rather lied by saying the fatal shot had knocked President Kennedy forward from his seat.


    Rather News broadcast:

    Just the opposite was true. The final shot violently pushed President Kennedy back into his seat, meaning the shot was fired at his face, not his back.  

    It was necessary for the ʝʊdɛօ-freemasons to cover-up this evidence which would immediately disprove that Oswald was the lone assassin, shooting from behind, at the book depository.

    This is the incredible "big lie" the Warren Commission sold America on the murder of their beloved president.

    In conclusion, Bp. Fellay never should have let himself to be interviewed
    by freesmason Dan Rather.  It was a cheap publicity stunt once again demonstrating that Bp. Fellay is surrounded by amateur con man.


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #3 on: August 31, 2012, 06:35:09 AM »
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  • Quote from: Incredulous
    Dan Rather, freemason.

    One of his early freemasonic temporal rewards
    was the sudden elevation of his news media career for lying to the American public about the Kennedy assasination.

    The American public was banned from viewing the incredible Zapruder film which captured the ghastly mechanics of the murder.


    Zapruder film

    Dan Rather was one of the "masonic elite" selected to view the film and report to the American public what he saw.  
    Rather lied by saying the fatal shot had knocked President Kennedy forward from his seat.


    Rather News broadcast:

    Just the opposite was true. The final shot violently pushed President Kennedy back into his seat, meaning the shot was fired at his face, not his back.  

    It was necessary for the ʝʊdɛօ-freemasons to cover-up this evidence which would immediately disprove that Oswald was the lone assassin, shooting from behind, at the book depository.

    This is the incredible "big lie" the Warren Commission sold America on the murder of their beloved president.

    In conclusion, Bp. Fellay never should have let himself to be interviewed
    by freesmason Dan Rather.  It was a cheap publicity stunt once again demonstrating that Bp. Fellay is surrounded by amateur con man.




    Yes, Father mentioned some of that too.

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    « Reply #4 on: August 31, 2012, 07:53:54 AM »
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    Father Pfeiffer told us a few days ago about the high ranking Freemason, Dan Rather, who interviewed Bishop Fellay and the SSPX on his television program. He said if a HIGH RANKING FREEMASON IS PRAISING THE SSPX THEN SOMETHING'S WRONG!!!  Well, it costs $2.00 to watch it so I didn't want to waste my money but I did copy and paste their advertisement...here it is...:


    There are some quotes from it on these threads:

    Here, here, and here.  As one poster, Paterfamilias said, "Why does he say such stupid things when speaking to the vile media?   More to the point, why is he speaking so much to the vile media in the first place?", and "What annoys me is the overall context - yet another interview given to the enemies of Christ, and full of ambiguity and bending over backwards to placate the anti-defamation lobby. Instead of distancing himself from Bishop Williamson all the time, it would be nice to see him distance himself from the vile media."


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    « Reply #5 on: August 31, 2012, 11:09:06 AM »
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  • Archbishop Lefebvre never spoke to the media?  

    Our Lord never spoke to the Scribes, Pharisees, Samaritans, Romans, etc?  

    "So let your light shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven." [Matthew 5:16]

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    « Reply #6 on: August 31, 2012, 11:12:01 AM »
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  • True, very true, but one wonders if we get a poor or mis-leading translation...tha and one wonders if Fellay practices what he is going to say or blurts out......one would think he should, by now, know what and how to say to the media......there are too many ambiguities for some, others its rather clear.....the problems boils down to what he says and does......and if the media are not fair w/him, he should block them out from future..also, need to issue clarifications for mis-statements, etc....
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    « Reply #7 on: August 31, 2012, 05:33:48 PM »
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  • The whole point of not talking to the media is that the media is "satans tool" and to open up to a high ranking freemason exposes either extreme stupidity or so much pride that he will do whatever it takes to "make history" as Father Pfeiffer says (the "make history" part)

    Yes, the Archbishop opened up to the media but he never did so in order to suck up to his enemies. He was always strong. Very strong with his words and actions.


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    « Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 06:01:31 PM »
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    Our Lord never spoke to the Scribes, Pharisees, Samaritans, Romans, etc?  


    Our Blessed Lord was always in control of the situation. +Fellay is not!
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    « Reply #9 on: August 31, 2012, 06:01:44 PM »
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  • BF is not a baby with the media, actually, he's quite slick...............

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    « Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 07:15:08 PM »
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    BF is not a baby with the media, actually, he's quite slick...............


    So when he gets a crew of journalists into his own habitat with time to make
    plans and do it right, for an important interview -- he's quite slick, so he should
    be able to set it up for his own best interests, no? I mean, with all these things
    in his favor, he wouldn't possibly make a really big mistake, would he? He's not
    a baby with the media, remember. So the interview ought to go as planned, no?


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    « Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 08:58:32 PM »
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  • I can't believe this is getting by.

    Inappropriate or factually incorrect text is struck out...

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    Father Pfeiffer told us a few days ago about the high ranking Freemason, Dan Rather, who interviewed Bishop Fellay and the SSPX on his television program. He said if a HIGH RANKING FREEMASON IS PRAISING THE SSPX THEN SOMETHING'S WRONG!!!  Well, it costs $2.00 to watch it so I didn't want to waste my money but I did copy and paste their advertisement...here it is...:

    HDNet’s “Dan Rather Reports” Examines the Church’s Return To Conservative Catholicism

    December 07 2010 12:23 PM EST


     
    Is the Pope supporting a movement to bring the Church back to pre-Vatican II practices? – TONIGHT, Tuesday, December 7 at 8:00 p.m. ET
     
    DALLAS (December 7, 2010) – Tonight, “Dan Rather Reports” investigates some subtle changes – and some not so subtle – that may indicate a conservative shift in the Roman Catholic Church. Is Pope Benedict the XVI supporting these changes, or simply trying to heal rifts within the Church itself?


    [-- Why does it have to be one or the other? The subtle message here is that
    these changes are not the way to heal rifts within the Church, and B16 is
    mistaken for attempting to do so. The subliminal lesson being perpetrated here
    is that he ought to be getting MORE LIBERAL to "heal" rifts within the Church,
    because everyone knows that progressivism makes progress toward a "bright,
    big, beautiful tomorrow..."]
     
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    In the 1960s, under Pope John XXIII, and Pope Paul VI, the Second Ecuмenical Council of the Vatican, or Vatican II made changes to the Roman Catholic liturgy including conducting Mass in the native vernacular, instead of Latin, and allowing priests to face the congregation. These changes made it look as if a new, more liberal view would shape the Church in the coming years.


    [-- The Second Ecuмenical Council of the Vatican: not a big leap from "The
    Council." It would properly be known, for now anyway, as the "twenty-first
    Ecuмenical Council, or Vatican II." To capitalize "Second Ecuмenical Coucil of the Vatican" makes it look like that's the official title. But is it?]

    [-- You see, Vatican II in fact did no such thing. It did not "make changes in the
    liturgy," but merely provided the weak excuse to start making changes. The
    changes came in the WAKE of the Council, and at every turn the wreckovationists
    had to claim they had authority to "demolish the bastions of the Church" (words
    of Benedict XVI, erstwhile Cardinal Ratzinger) because it was "according to the
    spirit of Vatican II." If I had a dollar for every time I heard that phrase, I'd be
    rich. Vatican II did not teach to have Mass in the vernacular instead of Latin. It
    does have text that weakly allows for that as a possiblitily, but it specifically
    gives the primary use of Latin first position, and it does not give the vernacular
    such a place. Once again it was "according to the spirit of Vatican II" that the
    vernacular was introduced, even during the summer of 1964, after John XXIII
    died of stomach cancer and JFK was shot. The big magic trick of satan was that
    this was actually the "unclean spirit of Vatican II!" There is absolutely nothing
    in the docuмents of Vat. II about the priest turning to face the congregation (for
    the normal position during Mass). These changes were not made as PART of Vat.
    II specifically, but came as a consequence to the "spirit of Vatican II" that
    erupted therein. And it was these changes AS A RESULT OF and IN ACCORD
    WITH THE UNCLEAN SPIRIT of Vat. II that were to shape the Church in the
    coming years. Make no mistake about it!]

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    However, it seems as if lately, and somewhat quietly, the Church is slowly becoming more conservative under Pope Benedict XVI.


    [Translation: it is highly disappointing to liberal progressives that any gradual,
    natural and inexorable movement of the Church BACK to Tradition would be
    "quiet," because then they can't complain that it's "noisy" or "strident" or
    "pompous" or "triumphalist" or "shrill" or "outspoken" or "obnoxious" or "loud"
    or "bombastic" or "overbearing" or "heavy-handed" or "abusive" or
    "megaphonic" or whatever other adjectives they scare up in their dark, smoke-
    filled back rooms.]
     
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    One of the bigger indicators of this shift is the Vatican bringing a group called “The Priestly Society of St. Pius X,” (or SSPX) back into the fold.


    [-- No, the SSPX never has been "out of the fold!" It's Modernist Rome that has
    abandoned the Sacred Traditions of the Church! It's Modernist Rome that needs
    to be converted, and "brought back into the fold!"]

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    The group was excommunicated in the 1980's for being too conservative in their practices after Vatican II.


    [-- No, that's impossible. No one can be "excommunicated for being too
    conservative." That's not an offense against the Church. On the other hand, the
    SSPX was not really excommunicated at all. It was all smoke and mirrors.
    Therefore, the word should be replaced with something else, like "persecuted,"
    or "attacked," or "made the object of illicit discrimination."]

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    Bishop Bernard Fellay, head of the SSPX tells Dan Rather in a rare television interview his thoughts on Vatican II.


    [-- Superior General is the proper term, that you should rather use, Rather.]
     
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    “And the result is there. The fruits are there. It’s a disaster. The Church now, in many countries is not far from collapse,” said Fellay.


    [--Well said, Your Excellency.]
     
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    However, there are others who had hoped the changes of Vatican II would present a Church that was more liberal and less tied to ancient dogma.


    [--No, that would be there are "liberals and heretics" who had hoped, etc.]

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    Former Catholic Priest Ed Flavahan is one of those who are disappointed with the Church’s shift.
     
    “There are a lot of people who are angry at the Catholic Church and the hierarchy and its solemn pronouncements and they’re being driven from the Church,” Flavahan tells Rather. “I want to be with these people even if it means being called an outcast.”


    [There will always be discontents who denounce solemn pronouncements. But
    curiously, there haven't really been any truly solemn pronouncements since
    October 11th, 1962, at the Opening Speech of Vatican II. So I have no idea why
    this guy's upset about solemn pronouncements. Maybe for him 1950 is much too
    recent for an ex-cathedra definition?]
     
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    However, some Church experts believe that the reinstatement of the leadership of SSPX is simply the Pope’s attempt to repair schisms to create a more united Church.


    [-- No, there is no "schism" with the SSPX, and the Church is ONE already. The
    Church always has been ONE, and always will be ONE. Unity is one of the 4 marks
    of the Church. Without unity or oneness, the thing to which you refer cannot be
    the Church in the first place, Mr. Rather.]
     
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    Should Catholics expect a return to the days before Vatican II? Find out tonight on HDNet.


    Now, this is a hoot! Where were these guys warning and worrying and anticipating
    the next innovation to come down the pike after Vatican II? Where have they
    been instead of covering abuses like the Neo-Catechumenal Way, or Focolare,
    or "charismatic liturgies" or "healing masses" or Assisi I, II and III? Why is it
    that some return to Tradition that MIGHT be coming soon could be news???

    Why do we have to rely on obscure sources or reliable small-scale sources to
    get any coverage of these corrupting influences? If it wasn't for CFN and John
    Vennari, or perhaps Traditio, where would we find the rap sheets if not for them?

    I hope I don't have to answer that question...............  :soapbox:
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    « Reply #12 on: August 31, 2012, 10:58:40 PM »
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    The whole point of not talking to the media is that the media is "satans tool" and to open up to a high ranking freemason exposes either extreme stupidity or so much pride that he will do whatever it takes to "make history" as Father Pfeiffer says (the "make history" part)

    Yes, the Archbishop opened up to the media but he never did so in order to suck up to his enemies. He was always strong. Very strong with his words and actions.


    sspxbvm,

    Unlike you, I actually purchased and watched "Dan Rather Reports: True Believers", so I can know what I am talking about before I talk about it.

    So here's another Double Standard Alert:

    Does Fr. Pfeiffer judge Bishop Williamson's decision to speak to the Swedish press with the harshness with which he judges Bishop Fellay's decision to speak to the Dan Rather?  Watch this and see what the Swedish media's agenda is:
    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDC5D236FD407AD58  Makes Dan Rather's agenda seem rather angelic, doesn't it?

    Oh, and can you please tell us how Fr. Pfeiffer was certain that "making history" and "sucking up" were the intentions of Bishop Fellay in speaking to Dan Rather?  Was he Bishop Fellay's spiritual director at the time?  If yes, then why is he breaking confidentiality? If no, then how it is possible that he is certain that Bishop Fellay had the bad intentions he is imputing to him?  

    Do you think Fr. Pfeiffer has the gift of reading souls?  Last I spoke to him he couldn't read mine.  

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    « Reply #13 on: September 01, 2012, 02:09:40 AM »
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  • ",,,Do you think Fr. Pfeiffer has the gift of reading souls?  Last I spoke to him he couldn't read mine..."

    Oh, I think he probably did, just like we're reading yours loud and clear right now.

    Point one: Bishop Williamson granted an interview to a group he had no affiliation with.

    Point two: Freemason dupes like Mr. Rather are rolled in front of a camera when the Lodge needs to lend some street cred to a story.

    Do the Math.

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    « Reply #14 on: September 01, 2012, 02:11:30 PM »
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    Do the Math.


    I don't do fuzzy math, nor loco logic.

    Back to the question: How can Fr. Pfeiffer claim to know the inner intentions of Bishop Fellay?