Author Topic: Father Joseph Pfeiffer (Read 8364 times)

sspxbvm · « **on:** May 12, 2013, 09:30:49 PM »

This was posted on a different forum. Granted, people may be trying to avoid the subject. That is fine but I would want some feedback if possible. Here is what I posted elsewhere... Critique me if you like.

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chrstnoel1 said:
FR. JOE PFEIFFER, SSPX MARIAN CORPS

THE APPARITION OF ST. MICHAEL
'CRISIS IN THE SSPX'

Given @ BRILON CARMEL, GERMANY.
8th May 2013

Audio source : Fr. Joe Pfeiffer

YouTube link :

Noel Christie Danker
GOD ALONE

These nuns are living the spiritual life of a Carmelite and therefore I am sure they can read Fr. Pfeiffer's body action and listen to his words and tell if he is genuine.

"The sheep do not know where to go"--- How about the Blessed Virgin Mary and her Rosary?

Why can't he give these nuns a conference on the matters of the SSPX and a spiritual sermon at Mass? What is lacking in our world is the purgative way of the spiritual life. The way of meditation and contemplation. The Divine life of Grace and spiritual growth are so desperately lacking and all we get is: Attack, attack, attack. Jab, jab, jab. Oh, and by the way, pray.

"If there was no Jesus Christ on the cross, we could not be attracted to Him"." ---This is not true. He is our God and being God our souls naturally fly to Him. I think he needs to explain himself in more detail. Don't just throw that out. Use the words "probably wouldn't be" instead of "could not be" 19:56

If "Jesus Christ only attracts when He is dead" then why the huge crowds attracted to Him during His earthly life? Why the words of Saint Peter (I paraphrase) where should we go, Lord, for Thou hast the Words of eternal life? 19:22

Come on, Father, give us the general idea of the mystical life. Our prayers are weak and small because nobody shows us the way!!

25:15......what? Doors and windows...

"2 souls and one faithful?...Now more than 1500"-- I am sure if the 1500 could have been at his first "Resistance" Mass they would have been there. However, keep in mind, we are not building the Resistance around Fr. Pfeiffer. We are building it around Our Lady and her Holy Rosary. Being with the Resistance is a singular grace of Almighty God. Not the result of traveling the world and jabbing.

Perhaps he didn't have time to give a conference? Maybe he could miss his next flight to encourage these nuns in a conference. Even the next day.

No mention of Our Lady of Mount Carmel. Only 2 seconds dedicated to Our Lady overall!! THESE ARE CARMELITES! No mention of Saint Simon Stock who was given the scapular. No mention of Saint Teresa of Avila. He seemed intimidated by these poor nuns! God bless them!

I too am a Carmelite so there was great interest to hear what would be said to the nuns and there is a special interest in the well being of these great nuns of Mt. Carmel.

Sorry for burstin' ya all's bubble but the above concerns are serious.

Thank you, Noel. God bless your great efforts.

Couple of typos.

sspxbvm · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2013, 09:39:52 PM »

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"If there was no Jesus Christ on the cross, we could not be attracted to Him"." ---This is not true. He is our God and being God our souls naturally fly to Him. I think he needs to explain himself in more detail. Don't just throw that out. Use the words "probably wouldn't be" instead of "could not be" 19:56

Apparently he says "If there was no dead Jesus Christ on the cross, we could not be attracted to heaven My transcribing mistake but it's still full of holes:

I wonder what Noah, Abraham, Moses, Daniel and King David were attracted to since they weren't "attracted" to heaven which I assume means attracted to God.
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Mea Culpa · « **Reply #2 on:** May 13, 2013, 08:35:15 AM »

SSPXBVM, I'm not quite understanding what you're getting at in your post. Are you unhappy that Fr. Pfeiffer didn't hold a conference with the Carmelites and that he didn't "give us the general idea of the mystical life"?

Could you please clarify?

Zeitun · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2013, 09:34:30 AM »

Quote from: Mea Culpa

SSPXBVM, I'm not quite understanding what you're getting at in your post. Are you unhappy that Fr. Pfeiffer didn't hold a conference with the Carmelites and that he didn't "give us the general idea of the mystical life"?

Could you please clarify?

Do not be surprised at this.

InDominoSperavi · « **Reply #4 on:** May 13, 2013, 09:36:51 AM »

I've listened to the whole sermon. i don't understand why you have serious concerns, dear friend. Because I'm french, I understood only about 90% of the sermon, but the 90% seem OK to me. I think that Fr Pfeiffer was right to speak about the fight in the sspx and not only about mystic life.

The carmelites, I am sure, weren't expecting something else. They have their books, their priest and their mother Superior to speak about mystic love. Fr Pfeiffer is specialized in the fight but still, in this sermon, he doesn't forget divine love. The carmelites are suffering right now because of the fight, so it was normal to speak about what they are suffering from, to comfort them and give them courage.

Perhaps you think that Fr Pfeiffer fights too much? I think that because he is the boss chosen last summer by the Resistance priests, it is normal. He could rest more if more other priests in the world were speaking out. But because there are only very few priests who are speaking out, those rare priests must speak a lot about the fight, to convince the weak, the shy and the hesitating ones...

Courage, my friend. I know it is not easy every day. But let's try to see what is essential and to be united on the main thing : the faith.

chrstnoel1 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 13, 2013, 10:12:40 AM »

Quote from: InDominoSperavi

I've listened to the whole sermon. i don't understand why you have serious concerns, dear friend. Because I'm french, I understood only about 90% of the sermon, but the 90% seem OK to me. I think that Fr Pfeiffer was right to speak about the fight in the sspx and not only about mystic life.

The carmelites, I am sure, weren't expecting something else. They have their books, their priest and their mother Superior to speak about mystic love. Fr Pfeiffer is specialized in the fight but still, in this sermon, he doesn't forget divine love. The carmelites are suffering right now because of the fight, so it was normal to speak about what they are suffering from, to comfort them and give them courage.

Perhaps you think that Fr Pfeiffer fights too much? I think that because he is the boss chosen last summer by the Resistance priests, it is normal. He could rest more if more other priests in the world were speaking out. But because there are only very few priests who are speaking out, those rare priests must speak a lot about the fight, to convince the weak, the shy and the hesitating ones...

Courage, my friend. I know it is not easy every day. But let's try to see what is essential and to be united on the main thing : the faith.

IDS, I totally agree with you dear friend.

Noel Christie Danker
GOD ALONE.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #6 on:** May 13, 2013, 10:37:56 AM »

IIRC, The Carmelites told Bp Fellay to keep walking when he wanted to go talk at their place. They told him he wasn't a friend to Catholic Tradition and wasn't welcome there.

These are strong women in a real sense, in the sense that counts. I don't think we need to worry about them, or the 'effect' that Fr Pfeiffer is going to have on them.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #7 on:** May 13, 2013, 11:06:03 AM »

Quote from: InDominoSperavi

I've listened to the whole sermon. i don't understand why you have serious concerns, dear friend. Because I'm french, I understood only about 90% of the sermon, but the 90% seem OK to me. I think that Fr Pfeiffer was right to speak about the fight in the sspx and not only about mystic life.

The carmelites, I am sure, weren't expecting something else. They have their books, their priest and their mother Superior to speak about mystic love. Fr Pfeiffer is specialized in the fight but still, in this sermon, he doesn't forget divine love. The carmelites are suffering right now because of the fight, so it was normal to speak about what they are suffering from, to comfort them and give them courage.

Perhaps you think that Fr Pfeiffer fights too much? I think that because he is the boss chosen last summer by the Resistance priests, it is normal. He could rest more if more other priests in the world were speaking out. But because there are only very few priests who are speaking out, those rare priests must speak a lot about the fight, to convince the weak, the shy and the hesitating ones...

Courage, my friend. I know it is not easy every day. But let's try to see what is essential and to be united on the main thing : the faith.

If someone thinks Fr. Pfeiffer fights too much, I think they've been conditioned into expecting spiritual priests. +W has spoken a few times recently how the fight has been bred out of the seminarians over the last few years.

Trads without a fighting spirit are tads. They've lost the r words, the 'rad' and the 'roar.' They're tads, 'just a little bit.'

Thanks to ggreg for coining the term.

Zeitun · « **Reply #8 on:** May 13, 2013, 11:33:11 AM »

Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing. That does not apply to priests alone.

John Grace · « **Reply #9 on:** May 13, 2013, 11:36:09 AM »

The attack on Fr Pfeiffer is daft. Total nonsense.

Zeitun · « **Reply #10 on:** May 13, 2013, 11:57:03 AM »

Quote from: John Grace

The attack on Fr Pfeiffer is daft. Total nonsense.

Well, you have to consider the source.

John Grace · « **Reply #11 on:** May 13, 2013, 12:05:20 PM »

Quote from: Zeitun

Quote from: John Grace
The attack on Fr Pfeiffer is daft. Total nonsense.

Well, you have to consider the source.

I will try and listen to it. I am behind in my listening and viewing of the sermons and conferences.

Elsa Zardini · « **Reply #12 on:** May 13, 2013, 12:28:43 PM »

This by Father Pfeiffer is true "If there was no Jesus Christ on the cross, we could not be attracted to Him": there is the Cross (still in use by modernists) and the Crucifix (Our Lord in the Cross) normally used by Trads., as my parents did. So, the modernists deleted Our Lord and soon obviously the Cross.

Elsa Zardini · « **Reply #13 on:** May 13, 2013, 12:43:16 PM »

Sorry, again. This by Father Pfeiffer is also true: "Jesus Christ only attracts when He is dead". Our Lord had to die. While on Earth probably something distinguished Him from other human beings, naturally. Whoever wrote this critic needs to study "catecismo elemental". And by the way, the mystic-contemplatives, are the best warriors.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2013, 01:07:12 PM »

Mithran..

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If someone thinks Fr. Pfeiffer fights too much, I think they've been conditioned into expecting spiritual priests. +W has spoken a few times recently how the fight has been bred out of the seminarians over the last few years

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You're right, IMO. SSPX has only one reason to justify its existence. Unless that apostolate's priests are conducting open warfare on New Church, denouncing her errors, and demanding that Rome return to her ancient roots, then they are as useless as ________ on a boar, IMO. We've stopped going to the sspx chapel here in Post Falls. It is little more for us than a Tridentine Mass factory, and a place to be baptized and buried. That would be alright if the organization was carrying out its original Lefebvrian mission. But here that is not the case. I had a priest stationed here tell me that ICC was my "parish:" church. No it's not. If that's what they're pretending to be, they fail utterly in that effort, IMO. A true Catholic parish, (in my understanding anyway, though I've never experienced one), cares practically for its parishioners in that rather lengthy period between birth and death, not just at the beginning point and the end point.