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Offline Ekim

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« on: April 24, 2013, 11:12:18 AM »
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  • In the limited recording introducing the presentation given by Fr. Themann, Fr. Beck gave a marriage analogy, equating a person who incorrectly believes that his spouse is cheating on him; imagining unfaithfulness around every corner, causing his own demise, the demise of his marriage, and the ruin of his children, to those who listen to "The Resistance" and falsely imagines Menzingen betraying the SSPX around every corner.  He states that this is very dangerous.

    I agree that having a fertile imagination, like Othello, can drive a man crazy.    Unfortunately, the written proof of Menzingen slide toward modernism and modernist Rome is not imagined.  It is clear for all to read on DICI, their other websites, printed publications, and most certainly in their actions!  The order previously printed in “Cor Unum” to turn off the bulldozer against modernism is clear for all to read.

    I ask Fr. Beck this however, what if after forty years of marriage, your  spouse begins to tidy up the house so as not to offend a strange man?  What if she starts to change the way she speaks and the manner in which she conducts herself for fear that this strange man, a man who is a notorious scoundrel, will lose interest in her? What if she throws everyone out of your house who comments about her odd behavior? What if you find secret love letters, letters that clearly show that she has betrayed everything you and your marriage has stood for, for over four decades?  What if these letters even bare her signature?  What if even after you find these hidden letters, letters she had never intended for you to ever see, she showed no remorse?  Worse yet, what if she started to announce to the entire family that there was nothing really wrong with these letters (just read them with rose colored glasses)?  I ask you, how much more dangerous is it to the marriage and children to pretend that no betrayal has taken place?  How much more dangerous is it to make excuses for these letters and deny the signature that is on them?  How much more dangerous is it to jump to this woman’s defense when she admits no betrayal?  Isn’t every one morally obliged before the throne of God to rise up and warn the husband?  Shouldn’t everyone try to protect the children?  Do not the actions of the wife require restitution?  Are those who remain silent committing a sin of omission?  


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    « Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013, 11:34:11 AM »
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  • Horrible title; excellent post.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    « Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013, 11:42:32 AM »
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  • Quote from: SeanJohnson
    Horrible title; excellent post.


    I fixed the title.
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    « Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 12:39:27 PM »
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  • Title was meant to attract attention...looks like it worked:)

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    « Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013, 01:40:15 PM »
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  • "Your Cheating Heart" applies directly to Msgr. Fellay.


    So, Father Themann unconsciously gives us the proper anecdote for the problem.  

    Unfortunately, it's the consiliar spirit of adultery to the one true Faith.






    Somone should send a copy of Hanks Williams CD to Menzingen.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013, 08:46:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: Incredulous
    "Your Cheating Heart" applies directly to Msgr. Fellay.

    Somone should send a copy of Hanks Williams CD to Menzingen.



    He may just send "Suspicious Minds" back to you, however.  



     
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42

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    « Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 08:52:52 PM »
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  • I understand that Fr. Beck will be at our chapel on Sunday...gee, I can't wait.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 24, 2013, 09:11:50 PM »
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    I understand that Fr. Beck will be at our chapel on Sunday...gee, I can't wait.


    Do you think, perhaps, he will preach on the Epistle?  

    http://www.fatima.org/prayer/epistle/epistle_Lent-wk11TH.asp

    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42


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    « Reply #8 on: April 24, 2013, 09:14:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: magdalena
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    "Your Cheating Heart" applies directly to Msgr. Fellay.

    Somone should send a copy of Hanks Williams CD to Menzingen.



    He may just send "Suspicious Minds" back to you, however.  



     



    Thank you for the lyrical inspiration!  :guitar:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #9 on: April 24, 2013, 09:15:26 PM »
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    "Your Cheating Heart" applies directly to Msgr. Fellay.

    Somone should send a copy of Hanks Williams CD to Menzingen.



    He may just send "Suspicious Minds" back to you, however.  



     



    Thank you for the lyrical inspiration!  :guitar:


    My pleasure.
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42

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    « Reply #10 on: April 25, 2013, 12:30:58 AM »
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  • Bishop Fellay sings:"Suspicious Minds" (to the SSPX-Resistance)

    (Originally sung by Elvis Presley 1969)



    "We're caught in a trap
    You can't walk out
    Because I love you too much baby"







    "We can't go on together
    With suspicious minds
    And we can't build our dreams
    On suspicious minds (Suspicious minds...)"





    "So, if some old friends I know...
    Drop by to say hello....
    Would I still see suspicion in your eyes?"









    "Here we go again, asking where I've been....?"





    "You can't see the tears are real.
    I'm crying (Yes, I'm crying)"






    "Why can't you see
    What you're doing to me
    When you don't believe a word I say?"





    "Oh let our love survive
    Or dry the tears from your eyes
    Lets don't let a good thing die...."






    "When honey, you know...
    I've never lied to you..."





    Mmm yeah, yeah.......

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #11 on: April 25, 2013, 08:23:53 AM »
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  • No doubt there will be a report about the Bishop Fellay visit to Athlone and Dublin at the weekend.

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    « Reply #12 on: April 25, 2013, 09:31:25 AM »
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    I understand that Fr. Beck will be at our chapel on Sunday...gee, I can't wait.


    Do you think, perhaps, he will preach on the Epistle?  

    http://www.fatima.org/prayer/epistle/epistle_Lent-wk11TH.asp



    Shall I let you know?

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    « Reply #13 on: April 25, 2013, 09:36:15 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ekim
    In the limited recording introducing the presentation given by Fr. Themann, Fr. Beck gave a marriage analogy, equating a person who incorrectly believes that his spouse is cheating on him; imagining unfaithfulness around every corner, causing his own demise, the demise of his marriage, and the ruin of his children, to those who listen to "The Resistance" and falsely imagines Menzingen betraying the SSPX around every corner.  He states that this is very dangerous.

    I agree that having a fertile imagination, like Othello, can drive a man crazy.    Unfortunately, the written proof of Menzingen slide toward modernism and modernist Rome is not imagined.  It is clear for all to read on DICI, their other websites, printed publications, and most certainly in their actions!  The order previously printed in “Cor Unum” to turn off the bulldozer against modernism is clear for all to read.

    I ask Fr. Beck this however, what if after forty years of marriage, your  spouse begins to tidy up the house so as not to offend a strange man?  What if she starts to change the way she speaks and the manner in which she conducts herself for fear that this strange man, a man who is a notorious scoundrel, will lose interest in her? What if she throws everyone out of your house who comments about her odd behavior? What if you find secret love letters, letters that clearly show that she has betrayed everything you and your marriage has stood for, for over four decades?  What if these letters even bare her signature?  What if even after you find these hidden letters, letters she had never intended for you to ever see, she showed no remorse?  Worse yet, what if she started to announce to the entire family that there was nothing really wrong with these letters (just read them with rose colored glasses)?  I ask you, how much more dangerous is it to the marriage and children to pretend that no betrayal has taken place?  How much more dangerous is it to make excuses for these letters and deny the signature that is on them?  How much more dangerous is it to jump to this woman’s defense when she admits no betrayal?  Isn’t every one morally obliged before the throne of God to rise up and warn the husband?  Shouldn’t everyone try to protect the children?  Do not the actions of the wife require restitution?  Are those who remain silent committing a sin of omission?  


    Very well answered Ekim. It never ceases to amaze me how the Neo-SSPX every time they try to show something the opposing side is doing, they  are actually describe themselves or in this case, opening our eyes to the PERFECT ANALOGY of the present situation. Ekim just made the perfect analogy. Had Fr. Beck not said what he said, then the perfect analogy would not have occurred to Ekim.

    When you do not have truth on your side, when you are covering up things you don't want people to know (and even worse in this situation, things you don't want to conciliarists to know, and things you don't want the SSPX priests and faithful to know), you will perpetually be putting your foot in your mouth. On the other hand, when all that you say is the truth, practically everything that you say will be profound. As is this analogy from Ekim.

    "You can't lie, even to save the World!"

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    « Reply #14 on: April 25, 2013, 04:58:39 PM »
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    I understand that Fr. Beck will be at our chapel on Sunday...gee, I can't wait.


    Do you think, perhaps, he will preach on the Epistle?  

    http://www.fatima.org/prayer/epistle/epistle_Lent-wk11TH.asp



    Shall I let you know?


    Yes, please do.  The Epistle is loaded with possible nuances for his disposal.  
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42