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Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
« on: July 27, 2018, 05:14:33 PM »
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  • I have received some information about Fr. Poisson.

    It would appear that Fr. Poisson:

    1. Has a strong Marian schtick going on -- adding Marian prayers to the Leonine Prayers said after Mass, etc.
    2. Claims that FSSP frowned on his strong Marian devotion
    3. He relies on supernatural help from Mary rather than any kind of human prudence, due diligence, etc.
    4. He is totally aloof from the Internet, again relying on Mary to personally send someone to tell him anything he needs to know
    5. He considers the Internet 100% evil
    6. He is 56 years old, a bit short, and of slender ("not skinny") build.
    7. His most notable feature is his piety.
    8. He is Canadian and his parents still live in Canada (that was the farm he spent the past 5 years on). Note his French last name.
    9. He stated as fact that "bishop" Ambrose Moran conditionally ordained him

    So it sounds like he is naive and imprudent to an insane degree.

    I might as well get behind the wheel of my car with a blindfold on, relying on Our Lady to get me safely where I need to go. Talk about tempting God!

    If he wants to be aloof from the Internet, that's fine. Just stay under someone (like your superiors in the FSSP) and you'll be fine. But if you're going to venture out ON YOUR OWN into the world of Tradition, do you really think there are no wolves to watch out for? How are you going to find out about them, by watching CNN? Oh, that's right -- Mary will personally send an angel or other messenger to give you the news that you could easily get with a Google search, using your brain, or doing your due diligence.

    The closer the relationship (say, a bishop ordaining a priest, a priest seeking ordination from a bishop, a priest joining a group, or a person considering a suitor for marriage) the more you need to investigate to make sure you're not making a mistake.

    Piety by itself (without doctrine, or prudence) is dangerous and inadequate. Don't you suppose countless young, wet-behind-the-ears priests in the 1950's were plenty pious? But they got sucked into the heresy of Modernism, and the rest is history. To this day, many of these formerly pious priests have done countless damage to the Church and to souls.

    Fr. Poisson (and others like him) need to re-read their Scripture. Our Lord said to be simple as doves AND WISE AS SERPENTS.  Fr. Poisson seems to be utterly missing this latter element.
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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #1 on: July 27, 2018, 05:21:07 PM »
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  • Let me tell you a little story about piety:

    I knew a young Traditional man, let's call him George, who was the most pious in his group. Everyone admitted that George was the most pious; he would spend the most time in prayer, etc.

    George was a bit on the "simple" side. Quite functional, but not all there.

    Fast forward a few years. George got involved in the Conciliar Church, specifically a church/organization dedicated to his favorite saint/devotion. In this milieu he met a woman -- Novus Ordo, of course -- and married her. They had 2 children.

    Then they got divorced. 

    And probably annulled, too (or at least I hope so!) because George was on Facebook talking about his latest "flame" and how much he wants to date her and get remarried.

    That's where piety (without prudence or doctrine) leads.

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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #2 on: July 27, 2018, 05:23:58 PM »
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  • Let me tell you ANOTHER story about piety:

    I knew a young man at one of the TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC chapels I used to attend -- he was very pious at the time. Meanwhile, there was a middle-aged woman with a large family who was the pious one in her family. These two got along well, and would spend a decent amount of time after Mass reciting various prayers together. He was old enough to be her son; how sweet! He was the pious son she never had.

    One of her devotions was the Divine Mercy.

    Fast forward a few months; this young man and the middle-aged woman ended up in adultery. Suffice to say it didn't end well.

    Again, they were both so pious. But that isn't enough. You need prudence (and doctrine) as well.
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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #3 on: July 28, 2018, 10:03:57 AM »
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  • Let me tell you ANOTHER story about piety:

    I knew a young man at one of the TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC chapels I used to attend -- he was very pious at the time. Meanwhile, there was a middle-aged woman with a large family who was the pious one in her family. These two got along well, and would spend a decent amount of time after Mass reciting various prayers together. He was old enough to be her son; how sweet! He was the pious son she never had.

    One of her devotions was the Divine Mercy.

    Fast forward a few months; this young man and the middle-aged woman ended up in adultery. Suffice to say it didn't end well.

    Again, they were both so pious. But that isn't enough. You need prudence (and doctrine) as well.
    An old saying goes: Piety without doctrine is superstition and doctrine without piety is sterile.  One needs both. Also, Saint Teresa of Ávila stated that she preferred a confessor who was mostly guided by doctrine than one more inclined to piety. 

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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #4 on: July 28, 2018, 10:25:34 AM »
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  • If he had been on the internet just a little, he may not have made the mistake of getting involved with the Pfeiffer cult and being "ordained" by Moran.  There's some good that can come from the internet along with the bad; it's not intrinsically evil.


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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #5 on: July 28, 2018, 10:27:31 AM »
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  • Father Hewko is also known for his piety ... but the prudence has been very much lacking.

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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #6 on: July 28, 2018, 02:20:48 PM »
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  • From Dom Chautard's, The Soul of the Apostolate: “If the priest is a saint (the saying goes) the people will be fervent; if the priest is fervent, the people will be pious; if the priest is pious, the people will at least be decent. But if the priest is only decent, the people will be godless. The spiritual generation is always one degree less intense in its life than those who beget it in Christ.”

    It has also been said that "a priest who is not holy is a monster in the order of grace" (Rt. Rev. Francis Mary Paul Liberman) as quoted in his published with canonical approval Spiritual Letters.  Liberman (1802-1852) was a Jєωιѕн Convert (baptized on 12-24-1826).  He founded the Congregation of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and was declared Venerable by Pope Pius IX in 1876.  (See http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09223a.htm.)

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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #7 on: July 28, 2018, 03:57:54 PM »
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  • A priest who is heavily inclined to a life of piety is best off in a monastery, not in missionary or parish work.  I predict a rough road ahead for Fr. Poisson in Boston.  Pablo will walk all over him.  Hopefully, he will either run afoul of Fr. Pfeiffer and get kicked out or he will come to his senses and flee while he is still able.  


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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #8 on: July 28, 2018, 06:27:42 PM »
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  • Fr Poisson's Marian devotion is not a schtick. It's who he is. He is about as "schtick-like" as the Cure of Ars.
     I think what people are missing is that he truly does not have the taint of the world in him. He is completely divested of it. I can't tell you to believe it, but Fr Poisson is one holy priest.
     Is that an advantage or disadvantage? Certainly it could be both as long as he is still terrestrial.
    He is in a bad place in Kentucky, admitted, and he probably wound up there in his naivete not being aware of better circuмstances. He will welcome and tolerate  much suffering, but he is not easily controlled in his devotion, and that will certainly be a rub at some point in Pfeifferville.
    I am just praying that he is able to get out of that web. We all should be praying for it. This man deserves it.

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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #9 on: July 28, 2018, 06:33:15 PM »
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  • Fr Poisson's Marian devotion is not a schtick. It's who he is. He is about as "schtick-like" as the Cure of Ars.
     I think what people are missing is that he truly does not have the taint of the world in him. He is completely divested of it. I can't tell you to believe it, but Fr Poisson is one holy priest.
     Is that an advantage or disadvantage? Certainly it could be both as long as he is still terrestrial.
    He is in a bad place in Kentucky, admitted, and he probably wound up there in his naivete not being aware of better circuмstances. He will welcome and tolerate  much suffering, but he is not easily controlled in his devotion, and that will certainly be a rub at some point in Pfeifferville.
    I am just praying that he is able to get out of that web. We all should be praying for it. This man deserves it.
    If you believe he deserves better than Pfeifferville and you know how to contact him, you should, because he said that he trusts that if he needs to know something, Our Lady will send him the right person(s) at the right time.
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson

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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #10 on: July 28, 2018, 07:44:24 PM »
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  • If you believe he deserves better than Pfeifferville and you know how to contact him, you should, because he said that he trusts that if he needs to know something, Our Lady will send him the right person(s) at the right time.
    ... and give him Fr Voigt's phone # while you're at it. Fr V can let him know what to expect from his time in Boston.


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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #11 on: July 28, 2018, 09:53:09 PM »
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  • Outside of calling OLMC, there would be no other way to contact him- no cell phone, no nothing. He will never read these posts online  and I'm sure Fr Pfeiffer is spinning a lot of nonsense to him about it.
    I am not a "do nothing " sort of person, I tried to find him before when he left the FSSP, but I was unsuccessful.  So to have him pop up like this was both good (he's alive!) and bad news (Boston, Kentucky) for me. I will have to think and pray how to approach this.But yes, you are right. He needs an intervention...

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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #12 on: July 29, 2018, 04:07:55 AM »
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  • Let me tell you a little story about piety:

    I knew a young Traditional man, let's call him George, who was the most pious in his group. Everyone admitted that George was the most pious; he would spend the most time in prayer, etc.

    George was a bit on the "simple" side. Quite functional, but not all there.

    Fast forward a few years. George got involved in the Conciliar Church, specifically a church/organization dedicated to his favorite saint/devotion. In this milieu he met a woman -- Novus Ordo, of course -- and married her. They had 2 children.

    Then they got divorced.

    And probably annulled, too (or at least I hope so!) because George was on Facebook talking about his latest "flame" and how much he wants to date her and get remarried.

    That's where piety (without prudence or doctrine) leads.
    Solomon was wise, until he listened to his pagan wives. 

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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #13 on: July 29, 2018, 09:19:42 AM »
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  • Fr Poisson's Marian devotion is not a schtick. It's who he is. He is about as "schtick-like" as the Cure of Ars.
     I think what people are missing is that he truly does not have the taint of the world in him. He is completely divested of it. I can't tell you to believe it, but Fr Poisson is one holy priest.
    I also am acquainted with Fr. Poisson and used to attend Masses said by him back when he was with the FSSP.  This completely matches my impression of him and his reputation at that time.

    It was very disturbing to see what was posted and implied about him on this forum.  I'll be taking a break now.

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    Re: Facts about Fr. Joseph Poisson
    « Reply #14 on: July 29, 2018, 09:55:49 AM »
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  • English is a living language. It's imprecise, unlike Latin, that's why Theology and Philosophy should be studied in Latin.

    Note: there is no necessary implication that one's "shtick" is put-on or faked.

    • Quote
      shtick
      SHtik/
      noun
      informal
      noun: schtick

      • a gimmick, comic routine, style of performance, etc., associated with a particular person.
        "there are many great comics who have based their stand-up shtick on observational comedy"

        a person's special talent, interest, or area of activity.
        "movies about ordinary women who do extraordinary things—that's my shtick"





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