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Offline JeanBaptistedeCouetus

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Excommunicated: Fathers Cekada, Dolan, Jenkins, Kelly and Sanborn ?
« on: November 18, 2025, 09:21:38 AM »
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    • “On Sunday night, May 20, when the Archbishop arrived back at the seminary at a late hour from Kansas, somewhat tired and travel-weary, no sooner had he stepped out of the car than he was served with a civil court summons in a suit to evict the Society from the seminary property here in Connecticut, a suit fled by Fathers Cekada, Dolan, Jenkins, Kelly and Sanborn.
    Those standing by noticed and will not easily forget the look of pain on the face of the Archbishop, who it must be remembered was their Father in the priesthood. Now according to the old Code of Canon Law, anyone citing a Catholic bishop before a civil judge incurs automatic excommunication (canon 2341).Hence, according to the only Code of Canon Law which they themselves recognize, these five priests are excommunicated.”

    —Bishop Williamson, Letters from the Rector - Volume 1: The Ridgefield Letters, June 5, 1984.
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    Re: Excommunicated: Fathers Cekada, Dolan, Jenkins, Kelly and Sanborn ?
    « Reply #1 on: November 18, 2025, 09:53:25 AM »
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    • So did the court case happen?  I assume the sspx won, since they still own the property.  
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    Re: Excommunicated: Fathers Cekada, Dolan, Jenkins, Kelly and Sanborn ?
    « Reply #2 on: November 18, 2025, 10:30:10 AM »
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    • https://www.scribd.com/docuмent/286871076/Cekada-9-vs-Lefebvre

    On that web site you can read a long "summary" about the legal battle.  see screenshot for excerpt. 
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    Re: Excommunicated: Fathers Cekada, Dolan, Jenkins, Kelly and Sanborn ?
    « Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 08:29:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: JeanBaptistedeCouetus on November 18, 2025, 09:21:38 AM

    Now according to the old Code of Canon Law, anyone citing a Catholic bishop before a civil judge incurs automatic excommunication (canon 2341).Hence, according to the only Code of Canon Law which they themselves recognize, these five priests are excommunicated.”

    —Bishop Williamson, Letters from the Rector - Volume 1: The Ridgefield Letters, June 5, 1984.

    ABL's acceptance and promotion of Bugnini's & Montini's butchered Holy Week Liturgy.known as the1962 Missal would have made the Archbishop anathema according to St. Pope Pius V's Bull, Quo Primun.

    Of the priests mentioned in the lawsuit. I don't believe any made such a Liturgical compromise?

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    "...No man whatsoever may have permission to infringe these provisions containing our permission, statute, ordinance, mandate, precept, concession, indult, declaration, will, decree and prohibition, or be so rash as to oppose them. But if anyone should presume to attempt this, he must know that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of his Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul."

    Given at Rome at St. Peters, in the year of the Incarnation of Our Lord 1570, on the day before the Ides of July, in the fifth year of our pontificate.

    Source: https://lms.org.uk/quo-primum
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    Re: Excommunicated: Fathers Cekada, Dolan, Jenkins, Kelly and Sanborn ?
    « Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 08:38:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on Yesterday at 08:29:47 PM

    ABL's acceptance and promotion of Bugnini's & Montini's butchered Holy Week Liturgy.known as the1962 Missal would have made the Archbishop anathema according to St. Pope Pius V's Bull, Quo Primun.

    Of the priests mentioned in the lawsuit. I don't believe any made such a Liturgical compromise?

    Excerpt:

    "...No man whatsoever may have permission to infringe these provisions containing our permission, statute, ordinance, mandate, precept, concession, indult, declaration, will, decree and prohibition, or be so rash as to oppose them. But if anyone should presume to attempt this, he must know that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of his Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul."

    Given at Rome at St. Peters, in the year of the Incarnation of Our Lord 1570, on the day before the Ides of July, in the fifth year of our pontificate.

    Source: https://lms.org.uk/quo-primum
    I am going to take his grace B. Williamsons side on this one.
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    Re: Excommunicated: Fathers Cekada, Dolan, Jenkins, Kelly and Sanborn ?
    « Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 10:08:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on Yesterday at 08:29:47 PM

    ABL's acceptance and promotion of Bugnini's & Montini's butchered Holy Week Liturgy.known as the1962 Missal would have made the Archbishop anathema according to St. Pope Pius V's Bull, Quo Primun.

    Of the priests mentioned in the lawsuit. I don't believe any made such a Liturgical compromise?

    Excerpt:

    "...No man whatsoever may have permission to infringe these provisions containing our permission, statute, ordinance, mandate, precept, concession, indult, declaration, will, decree and prohibition, or be so rash as to oppose them. But if anyone should presume to attempt this, he must know that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of his Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul."

    Given at Rome at St. Peters, in the year of the Incarnation of Our Lord 1570, on the day before the Ides of July, in the fifth year of our pontificate.

    Source: https://lms.org.uk/quo-primum
    Oh so that would include Pius XII under the anathema too, according to your logic? Well, well, well...
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    Re: Excommunicated: Fathers Cekada, Dolan, Jenkins, Kelly and Sanborn ?
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    • Quote from: JeanBaptistedeCouetus on November 18, 2025, 09:21:38 AM
    “On Sunday night, May 20, when the Archbishop arrived back at the seminary at a late hour from Kansas, somewhat tired and travel-weary, no sooner had he stepped out of the car than he was served with a civil court summons in a suit to evict the Society from the seminary property here in Connecticut, a suit fled by Fathers Cekada, Dolan, Jenkins, Kelly and Sanborn.
    Those standing by noticed and will not easily forget the look of pain on the face of the Archbishop, who it must be remembered was their Father in the priesthood. Now according to the old Code of Canon Law, anyone citing a Catholic bishop before a civil judge incurs automatic excommunication (canon 2341).Hence, according to the only Code of Canon Law which they themselves recognize, these five priests are excommunicated.”

    —Bishop Williamson, Letters from the Rector - Volume 1: The Ridgefield Letters, June 5, 1984.

    That appears to be a wrong canon number. I think you are referring to :

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    “Can. 120 Clerics, whether in sacred orders or not, who bring their ecclesiastical superiors before a lay tribunal for any reason, unless they have first obtained the written permission of their proper Ordinary, incur by that very fact an excommunication latae sententiae reserved to the Apostolic See.”

    That was abrogated by the 1983 code.

    Anyway, the code says, "their ecclesiastical superiors" which means those who have jurisdiction over them. The Archbishop was NOT their ecclesiastical superior.

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