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Re: Ex-OLMC seminarian ordained
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2017, 05:21:45 PM »
How does a priest figure out whose confessions he has heard?
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Exactly.  (Could there be something to the new fad of face-to-face "Reconciliation?")
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As regards past confessions to an invalidly ordained priest, so long as the same penitent made a good confession to a validly ordained priest later, it is not necessary to revisit the previous matter from the invalid confessions ("ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis...").

But, think of the rock and a hard place one would be in [between] who mistakenly confesses to an imposter, then dies:

Supplied jurisdiction only covers jurisdiction, not orders (i.e., that person's sins would not be absolved); perfect contrition would have been their only hope.
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Making a good confession to a validly ordained priest later is nice, but what about the mortal sins confessed to the impostor without perfect contrition and not repeated later to a real priest?
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That's why it's incuмbent on the conditionally re-ordained priest to at least attempt to go out and make known to everyone who might have confessed to him before he was re-ordained that they should recall the serious sins they had thought were absolved and confess them again to a good priest. It's always a good idea to recall past sins that you think were absolved and confess them again, anyway. 
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In the end, perfect contrition covers a wide swath of problems, but perfect contrition is far from a simple matter. 
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It is a principle that ought to be the focus of every catechism class, to make your entire life a continuous effort to attain perfect contrition. Some students might think the confessor would be bored with penitents who have perfect contrition, but that's not so. Every priest would very much love to have a line-up of penitents at his confessional all of whom could go straight to heaven without confessing their sins to him! Perfect contrition is what we ought to be striving for every day. It is a great goal and an enormous challenge.
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There are books to read to help one learn how to achieve perfect contrition. They are great reading material, and it's really simple to get a firm grip of the state of your soul by seeing if you would dare take the book off the shelf and read it --- again!
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St. Alfonse de Liguori's Preparation for Death is a good example, and Fr. Schouppe's Purgatory is another.
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Fr. Martin von Cochem's Death, Judgment, Heaven, Hell.
          

Re: Ex-OLMC seminarian ordained
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2017, 09:41:37 PM »
I'd be happy to donate $, but in this day and age, ordinations must be proved, especially when they occur outside of a formal seminary.  This is not an attack on the bishop or the seminarian - it is a matter of both justice and church law.  Justice, because the laity has a right to know who's a priest and who isn't.  Church law, because the church is a VISIBLE organization, whose members are VISIBLE and so are its priests.  You can't get ordained in secret.  And even if it wasn't secret, if it happened irregularly (i.e. outside a seminary) then that's not exactly public, which I would say is a requirement, on some level...especially in our crazy days.
Bishop Adamson acts publicly, and is recognized as such, though not with a huge congregation. Attached are some photos which are online showing his public presence.  Attached are also two photos of father's ordination.  The rest will be posted in due time.

Please remember, the financial  information has been posted simply because some have asked for it. Nothing more.


Re: Ex-OLMC seminarian ordained
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2017, 10:03:15 PM »
Good stuff, IH.  So Adamson definitely performed the ceremony. Just waiting for the info on him and his consecrators now. 

Re: Ex-OLMC seminarian ordained
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2017, 10:27:35 PM »
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Are you referring to the so-called bishop William Moran?
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Mistake. I meant Ambrose Moran. But why would that be "bishop Bill?"
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Re: Ex-OLMC seminarian ordained
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2017, 10:37:48 PM »
Good stuff, IH.  So Adamson definitely performed the ceremony. Just waiting for the info on him and his consecrators now.
Doesn't take much to find what you are looking for.

Many photos and all the information here:
https://cubacatolica.wordpress.com/linajes-episcopales/linaje-de-mons-dinhthuc-1897-1984/mons-datessen-1934/