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Re: Ex-OLMC seminarian ordained
« Reply #110 on: November 18, 2017, 09:23:08 PM »
I guess this kind of thing does not sit well with traditionalists:



Takes a lot of nerve to walk away from his vocation, share a tombstone with a woman, and inscribe "Father" on it!

Chutzpah!

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How do you figure it was his decision to "share a tombstone with a woman" when he was already dead and buried for over 2 years when she died and her name was carved on the other side?  The engraving was obviously done by two different carvers. The letters and numerals are not the same "font." The words on the right side are misaligned about 1/8" too low. He had a bad eye.
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I heard that while he stayed in a room in the NY home of a couple, he offered daily Mass there, but you're saying he abandoned his vocation. He told me that he asked Paul VI to be excused from his vows of poverty and obedience, but to retain his vow of chastity, and it was granted. Did you know that?
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Re: Ex-OLMC seminarian ordained
« Reply #111 on: November 18, 2017, 09:36:22 PM »
This article by Professor Oliver has something on Martin.
http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/church.htm

[size=-1](footnote 9. In this book, he, a former Jesuit, accuses the Jesuits of having become a gang of conspiratorial Marxists engaged in promoting, under the guise of religion, a Communist dictatorship. He even avers that the Jesuits in the United States drew up detailed plans for the installation of "Maoist Marxism" in this country.)[/size]
In all writings published under his own name, so far as I know, Malachi Martin has consistently taken the position of a Catholic faithful to the Church's doctrine and traditions, estimating that about 40% of the present College of Cardinals are Christians, ridiculing American bishops who jabbered about "ending poverty" and "sharing the wealth" by pointing out that the Roman Church is the wealthiest body in the world, with assets totaling hundreds of billions of dollars and possibly amounting to two trillion dollars ($2,000,000,000,000), and insisting that "Christ never singled out the proletariat with a preferential opinion in their favor." The mission of the Church is exclusively spiritual and it has no competence or authority to pronounce on matters of economics or politics. (10)
[size=-1](footnote 10. For example, in an article in National Review, 5 January 1979, which I have consulted in my files of that publication, he wrote: "Over the last fifteen years, the Roman Catholic Church in the United States, under the leadership and authority of its bishops, has become mainly two things. It is, first and most stridently, a jumbled shop-front jammed with a motley array of political issues, civil squabbles, sociological experiments, and psychological theories. ¶ Second, and more poignantly, it is a gristmill grinding down the hope and enthusiasm of faithful followers who know that their bishops have neglected the purity of their faith and the practice of religion in their Church, in favor of such issues as environmental pollution, ethnic rights, land distribution, the Panama Canal, Rhodesian chrome, and the evils of U.S. Capitalism." In the remainder of the article, he does not explicitly identify all these activities as serving Communist ends, but rather conspicuously avoids considerations that would lâcher le mot.)[/size]
I have not seen his latest book, Keys of the Blood (New York, Simon & Schuster, 1990), which was reviewed by Paul A. Fisher in Christian News, 3 June 1991, and criticized by Mr. Patterson in the article I have cited. In this book, Martin, somewhat at variance with his earlier pronouncements, tells his readers that the world is now the prize which each of three reciprocally hostile organizations are tying to gain for itself, viz.:[size=-1](footnote 11. I quote from Mr. Fisher's review. Note that there is no mention of Jews, which would not have been tactful in a book published by Jews; but did the glaring omission have another motive? I gather from Mr. Fisher that Martin expects a "direct intervention of God" during the lifetime of the present Pope!)[/size]
That statement is the principal basis for Mr. Patterson's denunciation of Martin as a "fake conservative" and "double agent" of the Zionists, and he marshals abundant proofs that Wojtyia (John Paul II) is coöperating so closely with both Soviets, the "Trilateralists" and the Zionists in foisting the "nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr" on the civilized nations to reduce them to barbaric slavery that the Pope must be considered a servant or accomplice of all of the three aspects of what must be a single force bent on our enslavement and eventual extinction. He reasons that Martin's book must be intended to confuse traditional Catholics and other readers by deceiving them about our enemies and creating the deceptive illusion that three tentacles of the octopus are fighting each other.
I am not here concerned with establishing Martin's guilt or innocence, and I certainly shall not waste time in collecting and analysing the many books and articles published under his own name or in ascertaining whether or not he continues to publish divergent works under pseudonyms, but I shall point out that, so far as I can tell from the reviews, he is guilty of a certain duplicity in concealing in his latest book conclusions that he has stated elsewhere.
In an address reported by the Rocky Mountain News, 8 October 1982 (reproduced photographically in Christian News) he stated explicitly that "The Christian church is decaying, has nothing to say, and is on the way out." He added that the other great religions of the world, Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, Shintoism, "are headed in the same direction as Christianity and even faster." He predicted the imposition of "a worldwide religion with one structure and institutions," managed by "one great bureaucracy. And out of it will emerge the ultimate disaster."
What is crucially significant in that speech is that he explicitly affirmed that the Jews' religion (the basis of their racial unity) is not in the least subject to change or decay and will always endure triumphantly. "It is irradicable, (12) indestructible," he affirmed, "there is no decay and nothing can destroy the soul of Judaism." (My italics.)
[size=-1](footnote 12. He means uneradicable.)[/size]
There you have it. There, stated with blinding clarity for all who think while reading, is an indication of who will own and enslave the world of tomorrow. No author, unwilling to bring upon himself the terrorists of the Jews' government in Washington, could have stated the fact more explicitly.
According to Mr. Lawrence, Martin, in his new book, certainly concealing or reversing his belief in an "ultimate disaster," not only regards the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr as inevitable, but lauds it a "Grand Design of God." And he says, "As to the time factor involved, those of us who are under 70 will see at least the basic structure of the new world government installed.... Those of us who are under 40 will surely live under its legislative, executive, and judicial authority and control."
And he could have added that Americans who are now under five will surely grow up to be imbecile creatures, so well trained that whenever they see or smell a Sheeny, they will automatically drop to their knees and knock their foreheads three times on the pavement in veneration of their living gods.
  
  
 
This article originally appeared in Liberty Bell magazine, published monthly by George P. Dietz from September 1973 to February 1999. For reprint information please write to Liberty Bell Publications, Post Office Box 21, Reedy WV 25270 USA.
Copyright ©1999 Kevin Alfred Strom.  Back to Revilo P. Oliver Index
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That's interesting. Thank you. (Does this copy start at footnote 9? -- must be a glitch.)
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Re: Ex-OLMC seminarian ordained
« Reply #112 on: November 18, 2017, 09:59:14 PM »
I guess this kind of thing does not sit well with traditionalists:



Takes a lot of nerve to walk away from his vocation, share a tombstone with a woman, and inscribe "Father" on it!

Chutzpah!

He became a secular priest, the older woman was his housekeeper for a very long time, and once holy orders has been given it cannot be removed.

Re: Ex-OLMC seminarian ordained
« Reply #113 on: November 19, 2017, 01:33:51 PM »
He became a secular priest, the older woman was his housekeeper for a very long time, and once holy orders has been given it cannot be removed.
Well they probably could not do anything untoward in the grave any way,but people do have family plots, and in some cases non-family members are allowed to be buried in them, with the permission of the family or owners of the grave.

Re: Ex-OLMC seminarian ordained
« Reply #114 on: November 19, 2017, 01:40:01 PM »
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How do you figure it was his decision to "share a tombstone with a woman" when he was already dead and buried for over 2 years when she died and her name was carved on the other side?  The engraving was obviously done by two different carvers. The letters and numerals are not the same "font." The words on the right side are misaligned about 1/8" too low. He had a bad eye.
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I heard that while he stayed in a room in the NY home of a couple, he offered daily Mass there, but you're saying he abandoned his vocation. He told me that he asked Paul VI to be excused from his vows of poverty and obedience, but to retain his vow of chastity, and it was granted. Did you know that?
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I guess people need heroes to hang on to.

If you did not find the Angelqueen info persuasive, no point in beating a dead horse.

For me, he was a taxi driver in secular clothes, who left his vocation, and capitalized on a trad market who liked what he had to say.

There wasn't much traditional about him.

For anyone who wants to learn more, here is the link to the Angelqueen Files:

http://angelqueen.org/malachi-martin-files/