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Evidence must be taken as a whole
« on: March 04, 2019, 01:38:15 PM »
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  • Remember what Q keeps saying: "At what point does it become mathematically impossible..."

    One or two pieces of evidence might be independently dismissed or excused for this or that reason.

    But what if you have 100 pieces of evidence, all pointing in the same direction? Could that just be a coincidence or a bunch of random changes, without any overarching goal or conspiracy behind it? Mathematically impossible.

    Also, Occam's Razor. All things being equal, generally the simplest explanation is the correct one.
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    Re: Evidence must be taken as a whole
    « Reply #1 on: March 04, 2019, 02:47:00 PM »
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  • The only things that Q has proven so far are 1) they work with Trump and 2) the special prosecutors (ie Huber) are investigating things not talked about in the media, 3) the democratic/media story of Russian collusion is, truly, baseless.  

    It does not follow (factually or logically) that any mass arrests will occur, or who would get arrested or when.  It also does not mean that any of Trump's foreign policy moves (Syria, Iran, N Korea) are good or lasting.  It also does not prove that the new NAFTA deal is good or that building a wall will solve immigration.  Nor does it prove that we will ever get Q’s promised election/voting ID cleaned up.  

    2018 was not “glorious” as Q claimed.  Not even close.  I’m losing faith.  No FISA doc release.  No Huber report.  No IG report.  And then the State of the Union was a complete pro-Israel manifesto.  I’ll wait and see if/when Huber’s report comes out but losing the House hurts Trump in many things.  Not even sure he gets re-elected now.  


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    Re: Evidence must be taken as a whole
    « Reply #2 on: March 04, 2019, 02:57:52 PM »
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  • The only things that Q has proven so far are...
    You kind of went off-topic there, into the details about Q and the Patriot movement. That wasn't my point.
    I was only quoting Q because that is often a good question: "When does it become mathematically impossible..."
    This applies to disproving Evolution and many other topics.
    Once the pile of evidence reaches a certain level, the chance that it's all wrong or a coincidence becomes close to 0.
    Yes, the man happened to be found walking away from the scene of the murder. Yes, he happened to have a big loud argument with the victim the week before. Yes, he bought a gun 3 days ago, so what? Yes, he googled "organ location" a few days before. Lots of people do that... He had traces of gunpowder on his person and his gun showed evidence of recent use. 
    And so on. Once you get to a certain point,  you just have to go with the most likely scenario, and forget about excusing each individual point.
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    Re: Evidence must be taken as a whole
    « Reply #3 on: March 04, 2019, 02:58:50 PM »
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  • In the legal world, they talk about

    Preponderance of the Evidence vsBeyond a Reasonable Doubt. ... Prosecutors in criminal cases must prove meet the burden of proving that the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, whereas plaintiffs in a civil case, such as for personal injury, must prove their case by a preponderance of the evidence.
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    Re: Evidence must be taken as a whole
    « Reply #4 on: March 04, 2019, 03:47:35 PM »
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    You kind of went off-topic there, into the details about Q and the Patriot movement. That wasn't my point.
    Oh.  Thought this was in the politics thread.  My bad.
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    Once you get to a certain point,  you just have to go with the most likely scenario, and forget about excusing each individual point.
    Agree.  One thing the modern world has going against it, is that the western education system puts an unqual and unnatural focus on teaching math/science.  For the last 70 years, people have been educated in left-brain "problem solving" at the expense of, and loss of, a critical thinking, left-brain, big-picture mentality.  This causes most people to look at an event with an overly-simplistic "cause-effect" thinking - the media provides a "cause" for an event, and the effect is subconsciously believed because of the pre-figured "motive" is part of movie/tv/historical propaganda.   ...As was mentioned on another thread, compartmentalized thinking (i.e. western education) leads to the ability of evil people to get away with non-compartmentalized crimes.

    Example: movies/tv often have very simplistic plots.  Bad guy wants money and holds hostages to rob a bank.  Good guy stops bad guy.  End of story.
    V2 example:  The pope wanted to call a council to help the Church.  Bad guys (liberals) organized to falsely interpret V2.  Good guys (JPII and Pope Benedict) are fighting to help the Church accept the "true" V2 interpretation.

    Most people buy this story (i.e. the "cause") because 1) they falsely believe the "cause" of the post-V2 problems being the liberals and not V2 itself.  They believe this lie because a) human nature says you normally trust your superiors, and b) V2 and the global media continually push this lie.

    Secondly, they believe the "motive" for the crime because many liberals are open about their wanting to change the Faith.  So, this part is actually true.
    Lastly, this overly-simplistic story for why the Church is in the position it's in is easily believed because people have been trained (i.e. propaganda) to believe in simple "cause-effect" scenarios.  But most criminals and evil people don't think like this, because they know they'd get caught in an instant.

     A true, clever crime has layers upon layers of misdirection so that the true "cause" is impossible to find.  This is how the Conspiracy works.  Person A talks to person B, C, D and E.  Eventually, person X pays person Y to do a crime.  What's the connection between Person A (who paid for the crime) and person Y (who performed the crime)?  Almost no connection.

    Certainly, the elites have corrupted the schools to the degree that most people couldn't even accept a deeply-twisted crime scenario as the above.  Just as they can't accept the fact that Paul VI (and maybe John XXIII) and the liberal Cardinals conspired together to make V2 happen.


     

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