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Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
« on: June 09, 2018, 10:50:11 PM »
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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #1 on: June 09, 2018, 11:06:39 PM »
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    Good grief, Charlie Brown. Thanks for the 'splainin, Matthew. 
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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #2 on: June 09, 2018, 11:30:23 PM »
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  • I was responding to Sean's comment that +Fellay knew what a sorry lot the Resistance is, while we didn't know it ourselves and underestimated him. But it disappeared. I guess I'll post the response here? I really feel like a lot of the frantic behavior is stemming from the mindset that the Resistance was supposed to rise up and give the SSPX a beat down. I am not mistaken that this has been Sean's stance right? Anyway, the response is written as if it is. I apologize if I read it all wrong.

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    Bishop Fellay knew what a sorry lot we were, while we didn't know it ourselves, and we underestimated him.

    Perhaps you did not know it, but I knew it. And I think many others did too. That's exactly why it seemed very clear from the beginning that the Resistance could never become another SSPX-like organization. I never hoped for that so now that it hasn't happened neither am I downcast by it. I was always attracted to the wisdom and humility of those who knew we were nothing from the start. It is not guaranteed but if God chooses to develop this nothing, it will be in His own time and in His own manner, as long as we are happy to be nothing in the meantime.

    "They also serve who only stand and wait." In fact, I'd say that is the most difficult kind of service. Yet it seems to be exactly what God is demanding at the moment. I've noticed in reading many lives of saints, they went through long periods of "nothing" before God called them out. This "nothingness" serves a purpose if only we know how to use it. Accept the humiliations. Focus on our families. Develop personal virtue. Give up control to God. I cannot see anything good happening until all of those conditions are met. Most especially we have to get to a place wherein we are profoundly and truly happy to be nothing!  

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #3 on: June 09, 2018, 11:35:27 PM »
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  • Johnson's Clairvoyant.  The incognito samuel through anonymous emails.  Who would have known ;)

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #4 on: June 10, 2018, 06:30:17 AM »
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  • So it's official then ?
    Sean has finally [vulgar expression removed]  ?


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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #5 on: June 10, 2018, 07:03:32 AM »
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  • It's only lately, in your new "Dogmatic Sedeplenist" phase, that you're picking up downvotes like a child picks up candy after a pinata breaks.

    It is my belief that this is the main reason for his latest manic behavior.  
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #6 on: June 10, 2018, 07:22:38 AM »
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  • Strange. Over Holy Week, he posted on his blog all the ceremonies from SGG (sede) and had commented on how Catholics might have to go to sedevacantist chapels to receive sacraments. And then go all over the sedes on CI? Slightly strange turn of face. 
    Please disregard everything I have said; I have tended to speak before fact checking.

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #7 on: June 10, 2018, 08:45:24 AM »
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  • Sean:

    Perhaps you did not know it, but I knew it. And I think many others did too. That's exactly why it seemed very clear from the beginning that the Resistance could never become another SSPX-like organization. I never hoped for that so now that it hasn't happened neither am I downcast by it. I was always attracted to the wisdom and humility of those who knew we were nothing from the start. It is not guaranteed but if God chooses to develop this nothing, it will be in His own time and in His own manner, as long as we are happy to be nothing in the meantime.

    "They also serve who only stand and wait." In fact, I'd say that is the most difficult kind of service. Yet it seems to be exactly what God is demanding at the moment. I've noticed in reading many lives of saints, they went through long periods of "nothing" before God called them out. This "nothingness" serves a purpose if only we know how to use it. Accept the humiliations. Focus on our families. Develop personal virtue. Give up control to God. I cannot see anything good happening until all of those conditions are met. Most especially we have to get to a place wherein we are profoundly and truly happy to be nothing!  

    From all my experience, including reading the entire book of Holy Scripture several times and hundreds of Lives of the Saints, this rings true. It's very wise and Catholic. And it would explain the current lack of earthly "success" of the Resistance. God is training us, purifying us, sanctifying us, testing us. Just as He has done with His closest friends for thousands of years.

    Is that the explanation for why the Resistance isn't taking off "like a house on fire"? As a Catholic, I certainly can't rule it out.

    Patience.
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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #8 on: June 10, 2018, 10:49:29 AM »
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  • I don’t respect anyone who constantly fights and creates drama, like Fr Pfeiffer does or like Sean has been doing recently.  The true catholic spirit is charity, meekness and humility - as the feast of the Sacred Heart teaches us.  

    I’m all for debates and civil disagreements, but juvenile name-calling and unending arguing is uncatholic.  Sean, I hope you calm down and use your intellect to teach and preach - don’t let the devil trick you into fight mode.  It’s a waste of your talents.  

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #9 on: June 10, 2018, 11:03:20 AM »
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  • Strange. Over Holy Week, he posted on his blog all the ceremonies from SGG (sede) and had commented on how Catholics might have to go to sedevacantist chapels to receive sacraments. And then go all over the sedes on CI? Slightly strange turn of face.
    Yes, I noticed this also. On the forums in the past I had noticed he had been very anti-sede, yet on his blog he was posting videos from non-una cuм sedes, the same people he condemned on the forums. I thought he had changed his stance and become sede-friendly.
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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #10 on: June 10, 2018, 11:05:27 AM »
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  • I think the Resistance is failing to take off because we're entering the Great Apostasy. And the Apostles said, in these days even the elect themselves would be lead astray if such were possible. That's what this crisis is, both the Church losing huge numbers to atheism and secularism, and also a loss of Catholicism within the Church itself. I don't think we're gonna get any great victory soon to steer the Church back on track. We have few if any allies in the College of Cardinals, so it's not like we'll get a strong traditionalist Pope anytime soon. Things will probably just keep slowly getting worse, and the best we can hope to do is keep ourselves and our friends and families on course. 


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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #11 on: June 10, 2018, 11:09:04 AM »
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  • Yes, I noticed this also. On the forums in the past I had noticed he had been very anti-sede, yet on his blog he was posting videos from non-una cuм sedes, the same people he condemned on the forums. I thought he had changed his stance and become sede-friendly.

    Is he just trolling here then?  Trying to drive traffic to his site?

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #12 on: June 10, 2018, 11:18:09 AM »
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  • Is he just trolling here then?  Trying to drive traffic to his site?
    But I thought he recently shut down his blog?
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #13 on: June 10, 2018, 11:21:24 AM »
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  • Yes, I noticed this also. On the forums in the past I had noticed he had been very anti-sede, yet on his blog he was posting videos from non-una cuм sedes, the same people he condemned on the forums. I thought he had changed his stance and become sede-friendly.
    Interesting.  Based on my interactions with him on ABLF years ago I always knew he was against the SV position, but never to the extent I have seen recently here and other fora.  I don't recall him ever stating that sedevacantists are not Catholic and out of the Church.  
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #14 on: June 10, 2018, 11:31:57 AM »
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  • Is he just trolling here then?  Trying to drive traffic to his site?
    Can't be. He doesn't have a site at the moment.
    But that doesn't mean he's not a drama queen (king?)
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