Interesting.  Based on my interactions with him on ABLF years ago I always knew he was against the SV position, but never to the extent I have seen recently here and other fora.  I don't recall him ever stating that sedevacantists are not Catholic and out of the Church.  

I have a bad memory so I do not recall if he ever went so far as to say sedes are in schism, so perhaps "condemn" was a bit too strong, but I thought he was very much against sedes and thought they were a threat. I believe he advocated things like not associating with the non-una cuм priests who were associated with the resistance like not allowing them in the SAJM and so forth.

To elaborate on one my points above --

You have to know Sean Johnson. I know him IRL, since we were in the same class in the Seminary.

When he joined in 2001, he had visited or tested out just about every group in Trad land. I can't quote particulars since A) it's been years and B) I don't want to get anything wrong.

But I know he had tried out Institute of Christ the King to some extent, and I think he visited, checked out, and/or spent time in several other groups "to the left" of the SSPX before he arrived at STAS. His attitude towards +Williamson and STAS was different from mine: I was a young man there to learn (docile). I had already decided that +ABL had the best position, and this was his seminary. "So teach me." He was more of an arguer. He also stayed for just 1 - 1.5 years. I don't remember that detail exactly.

I think he might have "found" the +ABL position just before he came to the seminary. It wasn't exactly HIS position yet, or solidly his. I remember walking next to him and +Williamson on one of our quarterly nature hikes. After telling +Williamson his backstory, the latter told him, "Well, it's as they say, easy come, easy go...hard come, hard go..." Good old +Williamson, ever the optimist! But he did turn out to be partially right -- Sean did stay with the SSPX position.

But nevertheless, he still seems to have a wandering or restlessness bug, even if he restricts that wandering to the R&R department of Tradition now.

Long story short, even when he was 25, stability wasn't his strong point. He's clearly a pure choleric.

Have any of you encountered the Wandering Trad? The Trad who doesn't really have a home anywhere, but who wanders from place to place? The one who stays for about a year at most, going from group to group, chapel to chapel, never completely satisfied or staying anywhere for long? Sean was more or less an example of this.

(I'm not talking about geographical place. An SSPX military family that moved every 2 years, but always went to their local SSPX chapel, would NOT be an example of what I'm talking about.)

Have any of you encountered the Wandering Trad? The Trad who doesn't really have a home anywhere, but who wanders from place to place? The one who stays for about a year at most, going from group to group, chapel to chapel, never completely satisfied or staying anywhere for long? Sean was more or less an example of this.

That's exactly how we pinned it.  Johnson is an indulter with an indulter mind.  The NOM is right up his ally for options and only disgruntled with it because they do not consult him at times.

Matthew, it would be fun if you could post a list of upvote and downvote leaders here on CI.  LOL ... I just gave you an inadvertent downvote, just testing whether it could be done.  I seem to recall that you blocked downvotes against you at one point.  Evidently that's not the case.  I wonder if more people don't downvote any of your posts because they're afraid that you'll be able to see who did it.  In any case, what I can't stand is the anonymous downvotes.  I think that someone should be able to mouse over the downvotes on each post and see who did it.

Also, it seems that Sean Johnson has an inordinate need to be "right."

As if there is some "right" opinion to hold on the Church crisis.

I don't necessarily think there is a "right."

In the Resistance parishes I know, attendance is down.

In the SSPX parishes I know, attendance is down. Last I heard, Liberty Station in San Diego is being closed, back to the hotel for them.

In the sede parishes I know, attendance is down.

Where did everyone go? Who knows?

I think that the kids are leaving ... to be honest.  Many Traditional Catholics are the older-generation holdovers, and I see their kids and grandkids often leaving Tradition back to the Novus Ordo or just giving up on the Catholic Church altogether.

I absolutely agree that there's no "right" position on the crisis.  I do, however, think that there are many WRONG ones.  ... if that makes sense.

Johnson's inordinate affection with the up-vote button is like a fly that won't go away.

Johnson needs a third button for being a drama queen so he can watch his votes go up.  That might make him feel luvvvy good.

He always tries to steal the show blabbering about himself distracting from the real issue.  Since this thread is dedicated to you (again) johnson, the NOM is a zoo cage for the idols of men and Christ is not in it.  Your hiding in the weeds trying to resurrect a 'valid' ecuмenist religion debated is INVALID!   It's pure indulterism...

I agree that the Millenial generation (35ish to 18 yrs old) have, in general, given up on religion of their parents and in varied ways.  Based on stats from my extended family (siblings, cousins, etc) and other families I know who started out as independent, non-sspx Trads (id say a millenial sample size of 300-350 people), here are the results:

about 10% don’t go to any church anymore,

approx 50% are now indult.  They think the sspx is wrong and all independent chapels are also wrong.  

25% are still trad but go to the neo-sspx, (which is currently quasi-indult) and they don’t really know their faith or understand what happened at V2 - because they didn’t read and study history, they just “went with the flow” and went to a TLM catholic school like their parents told them and nothing more.

That leaves about 15% who are still Trad, non-sspx.  

Yes, that's the kind of thing I'm seeing too, not so much from my extended family ... but in general among the families who have been running in Traditional circles around this area.

I'm surprised, though, that you don't list any who have gone full-blown Novus Ordo.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark
You've got a interesting perspective on what's vulgar here.

I wonder if Matthew got this phrase confused with something else?  I have never heard of this term as having a "vulgar" meaning.