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Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
« on: June 09, 2018, 10:50:11 PM »
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  • Nice to try to start an uprising on my forum while I'm busy with construction projects at my home. And you knew it, from our phone conversation Friday morning. You were well aware I'd be busy and unavailable -- something no one else knew, because I told that to you privately as a friend on our phone call.

    What gives? I'm serious. What's your problem?

    1. The most accurate description of CathInfo is in the header and the footer: "A message board for SSPX, Resistance and other Traditional
    Catholics to discuss news and matters pertaining to the Catholic Faith" and it's not The Official Resistance Forum, but it's the largest forum where Resistance members gather. Therefore it's the DE-FACTO "place to be" for Resistance supporters. My claim in the footer is therefore accurate. Do you know what de-facto means?

    2. Your little syllogism about CathInfo "changing" is ridiculous. The unspoken major in that argument was "I am Sean Johnson, the Unchanging One." No, Sean, you are not unchangeable like God. As a matter of fact, even for a human being you are as changeable as the wind and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that you were bi-polar or had some similar issue in your life. But suffice to say you are dramatic and on again/off again to the extreme. Your multiple "I'm outta here" - "Now I'm back" episodes prove this.

    When you were contributing useful content you got tons of thumbs up. It's only lately, in your new "Dogmatic Sedeplenist" phase, that you're picking up downvotes like a child picks up candy after a pinata breaks. Oh, and mixing it up in the Flat Earth subforum. You can't enter a fray like that and not gain a slew of downvotes from one "camp" or the other. That's just the nature of the beast. Again, you can't claim that you always argued with FE proponents thus, because you didn't. Long story short, your particular behavior changed.

    It's not just you in particular; all human beings are inherently changeable. We do this today, and that tomorrow. Our behavior is NEVER the same from day-to-day. Only God is always and forever the same, pure act.

    3. Just basing my judgement on your posts in the past 24 hours, it's embarrassing how much you care about your number of down-votes. Perhaps it's an ego thing?

    4. I personally gave you a downthumb on each of your posts in your recent "Sean the Grand Inquisitor" threads. I'm sure I wasn't alone on this. You were acting like a donkey -- making a donkey out of yourself -- in those threads, Sean. Admit it. You did at least admit you were trying to rile up the Sedes to get them banned. You were about as subtle as a wild donkey in a china shop.

    5. To some degree, CathInfo changes every day. The number and precise content of new posts is different each day, right? The exact mix of who checks in on a given day is never the same two days in a row. There's another difference right there! The only thing that gives CathInfo SOME measure of stability is the fact that I'm always the moderator, and I am MOSTLY the same in my beliefs, attitudes, and moderating rules. But the largest part of the "what is CathInfo" equation is the subtotal of all the members who post here. And that changes every week, every month, and every year.

    Every member I ban makes the forum change a little bit.

    6. It's obvious by the language and the content that all (or most) of the "anonymous mailbag" e-mails you posted were from Samuel. You don't exactly have a lot of like-minded people with you on this. You and Samuel are in love with the whole "formless darkness" thing. I know that from our past private (small group) e-mails.

    7. You basically forced me to write up this little rebuke. I certainly didn't enjoy writing it. But you started it.

    Why?
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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #1 on: June 09, 2018, 11:06:39 PM »
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    Good grief, Charlie Brown. Thanks for the 'splainin, Matthew. 
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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #2 on: June 09, 2018, 11:30:23 PM »
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  • I was responding to Sean's comment that +Fellay knew what a sorry lot the Resistance is, while we didn't know it ourselves and underestimated him. But it disappeared. I guess I'll post the response here? I really feel like a lot of the frantic behavior is stemming from the mindset that the Resistance was supposed to rise up and give the SSPX a beat down. I am not mistaken that this has been Sean's stance right? Anyway, the response is written as if it is. I apologize if I read it all wrong.

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    Bishop Fellay knew what a sorry lot we were, while we didn't know it ourselves, and we underestimated him.

    Perhaps you did not know it, but I knew it. And I think many others did too. That's exactly why it seemed very clear from the beginning that the Resistance could never become another SSPX-like organization. I never hoped for that so now that it hasn't happened neither am I downcast by it. I was always attracted to the wisdom and humility of those who knew we were nothing from the start. It is not guaranteed but if God chooses to develop this nothing, it will be in His own time and in His own manner, as long as we are happy to be nothing in the meantime.

    "They also serve who only stand and wait." In fact, I'd say that is the most difficult kind of service. Yet it seems to be exactly what God is demanding at the moment. I've noticed in reading many lives of saints, they went through long periods of "nothing" before God called them out. This "nothingness" serves a purpose if only we know how to use it. Accept the humiliations. Focus on our families. Develop personal virtue. Give up control to God. I cannot see anything good happening until all of those conditions are met. Most especially we have to get to a place wherein we are profoundly and truly happy to be nothing!  

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #3 on: June 09, 2018, 11:35:27 PM »
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  • Johnson's Clairvoyant.  The incognito samuel through anonymous emails.  Who would have known ;)

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #4 on: June 10, 2018, 06:30:17 AM »
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  • So it's official then ?
    Sean has finally [vulgar expression removed]  ?


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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #5 on: June 10, 2018, 07:03:32 AM »
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  • It's only lately, in your new "Dogmatic Sedeplenist" phase, that you're picking up downvotes like a child picks up candy after a pinata breaks.

    It is my belief that this is the main reason for his latest manic behavior.  
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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #6 on: June 10, 2018, 07:22:38 AM »
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  • Strange. Over Holy Week, he posted on his blog all the ceremonies from SGG (sede) and had commented on how Catholics might have to go to sedevacantist chapels to receive sacraments. And then go all over the sedes on CI? Slightly strange turn of face. 

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #7 on: June 10, 2018, 08:45:24 AM »
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  • Sean:

    Perhaps you did not know it, but I knew it. And I think many others did too. That's exactly why it seemed very clear from the beginning that the Resistance could never become another SSPX-like organization. I never hoped for that so now that it hasn't happened neither am I downcast by it. I was always attracted to the wisdom and humility of those who knew we were nothing from the start. It is not guaranteed but if God chooses to develop this nothing, it will be in His own time and in His own manner, as long as we are happy to be nothing in the meantime.

    "They also serve who only stand and wait." In fact, I'd say that is the most difficult kind of service. Yet it seems to be exactly what God is demanding at the moment. I've noticed in reading many lives of saints, they went through long periods of "nothing" before God called them out. This "nothingness" serves a purpose if only we know how to use it. Accept the humiliations. Focus on our families. Develop personal virtue. Give up control to God. I cannot see anything good happening until all of those conditions are met. Most especially we have to get to a place wherein we are profoundly and truly happy to be nothing!  

    From all my experience, including reading the entire book of Holy Scripture several times and hundreds of Lives of the Saints, this rings true. It's very wise and Catholic. And it would explain the current lack of earthly "success" of the Resistance. God is training us, purifying us, sanctifying us, testing us. Just as He has done with His closest friends for thousands of years.

    Is that the explanation for why the Resistance isn't taking off "like a house on fire"? As a Catholic, I certainly can't rule it out.

    Patience.
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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #8 on: June 10, 2018, 10:49:29 AM »
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  • I don’t respect anyone who constantly fights and creates drama, like Fr Pfeiffer does or like Sean has been doing recently.  The true catholic spirit is charity, meekness and humility - as the feast of the Sacred Heart teaches us.  

    I’m all for debates and civil disagreements, but juvenile name-calling and unending arguing is uncatholic.  Sean, I hope you calm down and use your intellect to teach and preach - don’t let the devil trick you into fight mode.  It’s a waste of your talents.  

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #9 on: June 10, 2018, 11:03:20 AM »
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  • Strange. Over Holy Week, he posted on his blog all the ceremonies from SGG (sede) and had commented on how Catholics might have to go to sedevacantist chapels to receive sacraments. And then go all over the sedes on CI? Slightly strange turn of face.
    Yes, I noticed this also. On the forums in the past I had noticed he had been very anti-sede, yet on his blog he was posting videos from non-una cum sedes, the same people he condemned on the forums. I thought he had changed his stance and become sede-friendly.
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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #10 on: June 10, 2018, 11:05:27 AM »
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  • I think the Resistance is failing to take off because we're entering the Great Apostasy. And the Apostles said, in these days even the elect themselves would be lead astray if such were possible. That's what this crisis is, both the Church losing huge numbers to atheism and secularism, and also a loss of Catholicism within the Church itself. I don't think we're gonna get any great victory soon to steer the Church back on track. We have few if any allies in the College of Cardinals, so it's not like we'll get a strong traditionalist Pope anytime soon. Things will probably just keep slowly getting worse, and the best we can hope to do is keep ourselves and our friends and families on course. 


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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #11 on: June 10, 2018, 11:09:04 AM »
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  • Yes, I noticed this also. On the forums in the past I had noticed he had been very anti-sede, yet on his blog he was posting videos from non-una cum sedes, the same people he condemned on the forums. I thought he had changed his stance and become sede-friendly.

    Is he just trolling here then?  Trying to drive traffic to his site?

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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #12 on: June 10, 2018, 11:18:09 AM »
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  • Is he just trolling here then?  Trying to drive traffic to his site?
    But I thought he recently shut down his blog?
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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #13 on: June 10, 2018, 11:21:24 AM »
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  • Yes, I noticed this also. On the forums in the past I had noticed he had been very anti-sede, yet on his blog he was posting videos from non-una cum sedes, the same people he condemned on the forums. I thought he had changed his stance and become sede-friendly.
    Interesting.  Based on my interactions with him on ABLF years ago I always knew he was against the SV position, but never to the extent I have seen recently here and other fora.  I don't recall him ever stating that sedevacantists are not Catholic and out of the Church.  
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    Re: Et Tu, Sean Johnson?
    « Reply #14 on: June 10, 2018, 11:31:57 AM »
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  • Is he just trolling here then?  Trying to drive traffic to his site?
    Can't be. He doesn't have a site at the moment.
    But that doesn't mean he's not a drama queen (king?)
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