Author Topic: Eleison Comments - Vatican War - Number CDXCV (495) (Read 3842 times)

Incredulous · « **Reply #5 on:** January 08, 2017, 10:35:25 AM »

Bishop Williamson,

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and that structure is very much part of Tradition – “Peter, feed my sheep” (Jn XXI, 17). Therefore however deep is the Conciliar corruption in Rome, Catholics must still be looking to Rome.

I don't get it?

Is his excellency talking about "Rome" the historical sacred physical entity and geographic location or Francis and his ʝʊdɛօ-masonic riddled holy See ?

If it's the latter, I'm not buying it.

I hear this "Rome" comment all the time from the neo-trad crowd and in their next breath, they label you as a sede or schismatic.

It's too much like Bp. Fellay's "primacy of Francis" spin.

What else could he say... as he sells tradition down the river?

Wessex · « **Reply #6 on:** January 09, 2017, 07:12:59 AM »

I, too, search in vain for this Vatican at war. The new conciliar religion would after all this time have weeded out all its enemies leaving in play a variety of promoters only distinguishable by the strength of their conciliar zeal.

We can of course look on and note the revolution is eating its own. It must always remain fresh and wow betide any stragglers! However, I am sure the spirit of V2 will prevail for several generations and set the tone for those psychologically in tune with its evolving religiosity. We hate to think what this is turning into. The locus of Catholicism is not modern Rome. This must be the case because so many traditional apostolates are now doing their own thing. Nostalgic references may be understandable ..... but not for a convert bishop!

JPaul · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2017, 10:52:11 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

The locus of Catholicism is not modern Rome. This must be the case because so many traditional apostolates are now doing their own thing. Nostalgic references may be understandable ..... but not for a convert bishop!

That is the reality that is still be obfuscated here by these neo-Traditional groups who actually conduct their business as autocephalous entities with no more than rhetorical fealty to the men whom they proclaim as their superior.

Just as the conciliar bandits feign attachment to Tradition to maintain their legitimacy and hide their separation from the Christian religion, so do the others hide their independence from that authority by the romanticizing and waxing about "looking to Rome" to maintain their own legitimacy as part of the Church.

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JPaul · « **Reply #8 on:** January 09, 2017, 11:13:28 AM »

Quote from: Incredulous

Bishop Williamson,

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and that structure is very much part of Tradition – “Peter, feed my sheep” (Jn XXI, 17). Therefore however deep is the Conciliar corruption in Rome, Catholics must still be looking to Rome.

I don't get it?

Is his excellency talking about "Rome" the historical sacred physical entity and geographic location or Francis and his ʝʊdɛօ-masonic riddled holy See ?

If it's the latter, I'm not buying it.

I hear this "Rome" comment all the time from the neo-trad crowd and in their next breath, they label you as a sede or schismatic.

It's too much like Bp. Fellay's "primacy of Francis" spin.

What else could he say... as he sells tradition down the river?

And neither should you buy it! Both of these Bishops are on the same page, both believing that the Judaized conciliar sect is the true Church of Christ abeit with a few anti-Christ smudges soiling the spotless Bride's gown. Both of them failing to "distinquish and discriminate" between the conciliar sect and the true Church.

The sect being no more than an ugly usurping overlay upon the beauty and integrity of the Church, not a part of it. Otherwise Christ's promise is made void and the Church has defected, which is not a possibility to the Catholic mind.

Incredulous · « **Reply #9 on:** January 09, 2017, 05:23:24 PM »

Quote from: Wessex

I, too, search in vain for this Vatican at war. The new conciliar religion would after all this time have weeded out all its enemies leaving in play a variety of promoters only distinguishable by the strength of their conciliar zeal.

We can of course look on and note the revolution is eating its own. It must always remain fresh and wow betide any stragglers! However, I am sure the spirit of V2 will prevail for several generations and set the tone for those psychologically in tune with its evolving religiosity. We hate to think what this is turning into. The locus of Catholicism is not modern Rome. This must be the case because so many traditional apostolates are now doing their own thing. Nostalgic references may be understandable ..... but not for a convert bishop!

Happy New Year Wessex!

(long time... no post?)