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Offline Infirmus

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Is sedeva.............?
« on: October 13, 2024, 09:02:33 PM »
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    • You know the conciliarists do not hide their actions but what if they have a hidden hand. It's a theory worth a thought that maybe sedevacantism is a conciliar tool. No way to hard fact prove but think about the easy manipulation of the non-theologically trained minds being converted easily to sede. Seems like an interesting theory. Who did the conciliar authority attack, not the sedes but Archbishop Lefebvre. 
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    Offline MiracleOfTheSun

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    Re: Is sedeva.............?
    « Reply #1 on: October 13, 2024, 10:31:54 PM »
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    Re: Is sedeva.............?
    « Reply #2 on: October 13, 2024, 11:14:09 PM »
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    • :clown:
    The "sedes" are numerically so insignificant that they were probably not even noticed by the Conciliar men.

    Do we have numbers? How many Sedevacantists were there during the 1970s? How many SSPX followers? They did bother to excommunicate Abp. Thuc, but they did not even address the issue of Sedevacantism, as far as I know.

    You are a really funny one. Especially when you are trying to be serious.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Is sedeva.............?
    « Reply #3 on: October 14, 2024, 06:03:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: Giovanni Berto on October 13, 2024, 11:14:09 PM
    You are a really funny one. Especially when you are trying to be serious.

    No, he's just got some psychological problem ... similar to Meg ... where he's triggered by SVism somehow.  Here he claims that only those who do not have "theologically trained" minds accept sedevacantism, when, on the contrary, some of the best minds among Traditional Catholics are sedevacantists.  Why?  Because classic R&R is nothing more than thinly-veiled Old Catholicism and cannot be reconciled with Tradition.

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    Re: Is sedeva.............?
    « Reply #4 on: October 14, 2024, 06:24:37 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 14, 2024, 06:03:36 AM
    No, he's just got some psychological problem ... similar to Meg ... where he's triggered by SVism somehow.  Here he claims that only those who do not have "theologically trained" minds accept sedevacantism, when, on the contrary, some of the best minds among Traditional Catholics are sedevacantists.  Why?  Because classic R&R is nothing more than thinly-veiled Old Catholicism and cannot be reconciled with Tradition.
    cuŠ¼ ex clearly teaches R&R where he says that the pope "who may judge all and be judged by none in this world, may nonetheless be contradicted if he be found to have deviated from the Faith."

    Meanwhile you're out there calling Pope Paul IV nothing more that an old catholic who cannot be reconciled with Tradition.

    At any rate, historically, all the greatest heresies and errors began with "theologically trained" minds. Sedeism is no different and it is sedeism that in reality, cannot be reconciled with Tradition.

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    Re: Is sedeva.............?
    « Reply #5 on: October 14, 2024, 09:22:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Giovanni Berto on October 13, 2024, 11:14:09 PM
    :clown:
    The "sedes" are numerically so insignificant that they were probably not even noticed by the Conciliar men.

    Do we have numbers? How many Sedevacantists were there during the 1970s? How many SSPX followers? They did bother to excommunicate Abp. Thuc, but they did not even address the issue of Sedevacantism, as far as I know.

    You are a really funny one. Especially when you are trying to be serious.
    Thuc deserved excommunication for the palmar de troya, like if that wasn't the most stupid thing ever done, what was he thinking. You can't just go ordaining and consecrating men you just met and don't know. At that time was Thuc even a sede? No proof. The only proof Thuc was a sede (and of which kind we don't know) was a flimsy declaration, is there an original? Is there a video of him declaring this. False propaganda for a false theory. 
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    Re: Is sedeva.............?
    « Reply #6 on: October 14, 2024, 09:35:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 14, 2024, 06:03:36 AM
    No, he's just got some psychological problem ... similar to Meg ... where he's triggered by SVism somehow.  Here he claims that only those who do not have "theologically trained" minds accept sedevacantism, when, on the contrary, some of the best minds among Traditional Catholics are sedevacantists.  Why?  Because classic R&R is nothing more than thinly-veiled Old Catholicism and cannot be reconciled with Tradition.

    I'm not theologically trained, far from it, but listening to a sede say "He's a heretic, he's not the pope" you just think that for some of them that is all they have to say. Lad, you seem to be very smart, but look at the conciliar bishops, they are super smart yet they hang onto modernism. If the totalist sedes are so firmly rooted in their belief then either elect a pope or shut up. Sedeprivationists? The lips are flapping but I can't hear anything. 

    Archbishop Lefebvre spoke true wisdom.




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