I can understand how you would characterize my comment ("That said, I hope he would not hold out Garabandal and Valtorta as any true means/guides of turning back to God.") as an attack on His Excellency. I, however, would no more characterize it as an attack upon His Excellency than I would characterize it as an attack on him if I saw him passing out food at a luncheon which I believed to be rotten by telling others present that I hope he would not hold out any more of the rotten food for them. If, on the other hand, I chose to remain silent out of human respect or any other reason would my silence be serving a good purpose? Certainly, people are free to try to make the best use out of their God given powers of discernment in deciding whether the food is rotten or not.
If, on the other hand, one day His Excellency comes to believe that the fruits of Garabandal and Valtorta are rotten/coruupted as many on this forum believe them to be, he might even thank those who not only believed them to be, but openly stated so. Still, on the other hand, if I ever come to believe -- fat chance -- that Garabandal and Valtorta with all their endless verbiage/messages are worthy of belief I will turn around and thank His Excellency for standing strong in doing his part to spread the news.
As per your twofold "implications if Valtorta is false" let me say this:
1) I think it remains an open question as to whether or not Fr. Barrielle in your words "was himself incapable of discerning the spirits with regard to Valtorta." The fact that he may have favored her does not necessarily mean that he was incapable of discerning the spirits in a way contra to her.
2) I very seriously doubt that Bp. Williamson would ever accuse me openly or even privately of having "abused" him for promoting Valtorta. If you or anyone else thinks I have -- well, fine -- so be it.
As for Abp. Lefebvre, I think it would be quite a stretch to say he favored Valtorta. No doubt, an inference may be drawn that he did, but inferences are not facts. The good archbishop had many years to make more than one definitive statement on her in no less a manner than Bp. Williamson has done. I know of not a single docuмented instance of him ever having done so, but rest assured if it can be credibly established that he endorsed her in anywhere near the manner that Bp. Williamson has, I would with all due respect have no hesitancy in openly disagreeing with him.
My only point was to seek consistency:
Many of those who abuse Msgr. Williamson (not necessarily you) for his position give l'Abbe Barrielle a pass. Why is that? It was l'Abbe Barrielle who said Valtorta was a path to God before Msgr. Williamson said it (in fact, since l'Abbe Barrielle was the spiritual director in Econe when Msgr. Williamson was in formation there, I'm quite certain that is where the latter got it), yet he remained spiritual director in the seminaire under Msgr. Lefebvre until he died, without anyone complaining to Msgr. Lefebvre about it.
If that consistency is lacking, then it is reasonable to ask oneself why.
Regarding Msgr. Lefebvre, he gave a cautionary spiritual conference warning against reading Valtorta, but did not prohibit it, nor did he sauvage l'Abbe Barrielle for reccomending it. His response was "one and done."
Consistency would look like this (i.e., giving him the same treatment many give Msgr. Williamson): Msgr. Lefebvre was wholly irresponsible and negligent in the spiritual formation of his seminarists for allowing l'Abbe Barrielle to poison them with Valtorta. That he warned the seminarists once, yet allowed l'Abbe Barrielle to continue preaching Valtorta shows he did not take formation seriously, and was an unreliable spiritual guide.Certainment, I do not believe this for a second
, but for those exagerrating the matter about Msgr. Williamson, why not also about l'Abbe Barrielle and Msgr. Lefebvre?
It seems to me this is a "tempest in a teacup," designed to defame Msgr. Williamson (otherwise the inconsistency is inexplicable).
It is not my cup of tea, as you say, but neither is Agreda nor Emmerich (both of whom were on the index). For me, I choose public revelation and only the plus fort revelations en privee (Fatima, Lourdes).