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Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2022, 12:08:03 PM »
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  • I think this is where the misunderstanding is...

    They are leaving Father's Mass circuit - a Mass circuit is where a priest will travel to different chapels to service the needs of the faithful.  So, when I worked at the SSPX retreat house in Los Gatos, for example, I used to drive Fr. Alphonsus all over the state of California to serve different chapels.  His Mass circuit went out to Bakersfield, sometimes out to San Jose, Sacramento, etc.

    The priest in this case is driving all over to serve different chapels.  Some of those groups have now cut themselves off from his circuit.

    Thank you for finally explaining that. So, some groups are no longer attending masses because of +W's statements, which are statements that he has made many times in the past, and which nearly everyone on this forum has known about for a few years. I still don't get why they would suddenly be leaving. Very odd, but okay. That's their choice. I guess it's worth it to them to not have access to the sacraments over this issue.

    It seems to back up what Matthew has said on this thread regarding home-aloneism.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #61 on: November 30, 2022, 12:09:33 PM »
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  • I think this is where the misunderstanding is...

    They are leaving Father's Mass circuit - a Mass circuit is where a priest will travel to different chapels to service the needs of the faithful.  So, when I worked at the SSPX retreat house in Los Gatos, for example, I used to drive Fr. Alphonsus all over the state of California to serve different chapels.  His Mass circuit went out to Bakersfield, sometimes out to San Jose, Sacramento, etc.

    The priest in this case is driving all over to serve different chapels.  Some of those groups have now cut themselves off from his circuit.

    Ah, Father Alphonsus.  He filled in for Father Carley in Akron when he was out with hip surgery.  We loved him there and lobbied him to take over when Father Carley could no longer continue on, but Father Carley has recovered nicely and is still plugging away and moving around quite well for closing in on 90 now.

    Is Father Alphonsus aligned with the Resistace somehow?


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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #62 on: November 30, 2022, 12:17:23 PM »
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  • They are leaving Father's Mass circuit 

    The priest in this case is driving all over to serve different chapels.  Some of those groups have now cut themselves off from his circuit.

    Can you please name who this priest is, and where some of these locations are that people are leaving?
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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #63 on: November 30, 2022, 12:32:39 PM »
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  • Is Father Alphonsus aligned with the Resistace somehow?

    He's still aligned with the SSPX, at least officially I believe.  The last I heard was him doing a Mission at the Portland chapel (Vancouver, WA actually) recently.  He's an excellent confessor if one gets the chance.

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #64 on: November 30, 2022, 12:32:55 PM »
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  • Can you please name who this priest is, and where some of these locations are that people are leaving?

    Waiting...

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #65 on: November 30, 2022, 12:34:53 PM »
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  • Thank you for finally explaining that. So, some groups are no longer attending masses because of +W's statements, which are statements that he has made many times in the past, and which nearly everyone on this forum has known about for a few years. I still don't get why they would suddenly be leaving. Very odd, but okay. That's their choice. I guess it's worth it to them to not have access to the sacraments over this issue.

    It seems to back up what Matthew has said on this thread regarding home-aloneism.
    Because they finally decided that they can't go along with it?

    Also, why do you assume that they are now home alone not receiving sacraments?

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #66 on: November 30, 2022, 12:35:04 PM »
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  • He's still aligned with the SSPX, at least officially I believe.  The last I heard was him doing a Mission at the Portland chapel (Vancouver, WA actually) recently.  He's an excellent confessor if one gets the chance.

    The name?

    Can you also please explain why faithful would be leaving an FSSPX priest's Mass for not condemning Msgr. Williamson (who's not part of the FSSPX)?

    That makes no sense.

    Are you starting to panic a little?
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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #67 on: November 30, 2022, 12:39:15 PM »
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  • Why do you assume that they are now home alone not receiving sacraments? 

    Because if they attend a Resistance mass, they have likely issues with other mass venues. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #68 on: November 30, 2022, 12:40:25 PM »
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  • Can you please name who this priest is, and where some of these locations are that people are leaving?

    I don't have that authority and he did not specify which - but puhleeze don't imply I'm a liar for not posting it, like one forum has already.  If one doesn't believe me, or understand the terminology in use, that ain't my responsibility.  Ye'all need to hunt down the Resistance priests (so to speak) and get on the email chains.

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #69 on: November 30, 2022, 12:42:56 PM »
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  • Because if they attend a Resistance mass, they have likely issues with other mass venues.
    Aren't there a number of Resistance folks on this forum alone that would go to other trad masses ...if they were the only other ones available?

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #70 on: November 30, 2022, 12:43:49 PM »
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  • I don't have that authority and he did not specify which - but puhleeze don't imply I'm a liar for not posting it, like one forum has already.  If one doesn't believe me, or understand the terminology in use, that ain't my responsibility.  Ye'all need to hunt down the Resistance priests (so to speak) and get on the email chains.

    Can you please explain why you would need "authority" to name a priest covering a public Mass circuit (or even the locations on his circuit)?


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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #71 on: November 30, 2022, 12:44:45 PM »
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  • Waiting...

    :popcorn:

    Still waiting for you to join an email list and get that firsthand news when it breaks!

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #72 on: November 30, 2022, 12:46:05 PM »
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  • Still waiting for you to join an email list and get that firsthand news when it breaks!

    The liar hides again.

    Do you sense I am about to expose you?
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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #73 on: November 30, 2022, 12:47:14 PM »
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  • Can you please explain why you would need "authority" to name a priest covering a public Mass circuit?


    :popcorn:

    Because they are sent out to a group and he hasn't said I'm allowed to post his emails to the world at large whenever I feel like it.  

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing Part 1 (no. 802)
    « Reply #74 on: November 30, 2022, 12:48:21 PM »
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  • Because they are sent out to a group and he hasn't said I'm allowed to post his emails to the world at large whenever I feel like it. 

    I didn't ask you to post any of his emails: I asked you to name who this priest is, and what Mass circuit he's covering (which would already be known and public).
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