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Offline SeanJohnson

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Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing III (no. 804)
« Reply #135 on: December 16, 2022, 10:48:57 PM »
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  • Well, I have to wonder why +W is making these statements. For many of us who support the Resistance, it's not a big deal that the has said these things. I'm not concerned by them. I see +W's statements as having charity as their basis, and it's the charity shown by the Resistance bishops and priests that keeps me supporting them. Truth with charity. No other trad group has that combination, in my opinion. I understand that 'charity' can be an over-used word, which can have negative connotations, but I still think that charity is important, and it can be a part of the conversation.

    I don't think he's making these statements for the Novus ordo folks, nor does he seem to be making them for the Resistance supporters who care about the views of +ABL, so who is he making them to, or for?

    He gave the answer in the recent Kansas interview: He says the truth for truth’s sake.

    The reason for that can be read in his episcopal motto on his coat of arms.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing III (no. 804)
    « Reply #136 on: December 16, 2022, 11:11:33 PM »
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  • Indeed.  I wrote of the group email I received from a Resistance priest who stated exactly that - some of his faithful have now cut ties because of +Williamson's statements. 

    As de Lugo reported, this is a lie, and I’ll tell the forum the true story:

    Fr. Hewko’s Canadian dupes hadn’t received sacraments in over two years because he couldn’t cross into Canada unvaxed, and he’d schooled them since the Pfeifferian days, that it was not permissible for them to receive the sacraments from anyone associated with Bishop Williamson and the “fake resistance,” lest they too become guilty by association in the same compromises.

    In other words, these people hadn’t had anything to do with Williamson & Co. since at least 2014.

    But Fr. Hewko’s conscience got the better of him, so he called Fr. Girouard (ie., one of the “Williamson compromisers”), and asked him if he would start doing Mass circuits to Fr. Hewko’s people in various Canadian locales (Fr. Girouard already being located in Canada).

    Fr. Girouard agreed, and in fact did begin covering Fr. Hewko’s territory.

    But then in October, Canada lifted the Vax requirement, so Fr. Hewko resumed the old strategy, and told Fr. Girouard that unless he would publicly denounce Williamson, he was no longer welcome to continue the circuit, and went right back to indoctrinating his “faithful.”

    So the lie de Lugo spoke of was not on the part of the priest, but on the part of MOTS, in pretending that some Williamson supporters had recently left because of his position on recently discussed topics, when the reality is that they’d been gone for over 8+ years,

    But what is most interesting to me, is that Fr. Hewko would hold his faithful hostage from the sacraments for 2+ years on the pretext of not “compromising,” when it was Fr. Hewko himself who, according to his own stupid principle, “compromised” by reaching out to Fr. Girouard in the first place!

    “‘Tis for thee, but not for me.”

    So his faithful can have no collaboration with compromisers, but Fr. Hewko can request “compromisers” to cover Mass circuits, provide Holy oils, request delegation to perform confirmations, etc.

    That's the true story about the events MOTS told.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing III (no. 804)
    « Reply #137 on: December 16, 2022, 11:11:47 PM »
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  • 2) It’s a shame you didn’t have the humility to listen to him, since he was obviously correct in every aspect of that conference.

    1) Yes, you clearly seem confused by all the issues, which makes your statement in #2 all the more regrettable.  It has been evident in your short time here tgat you are not a clear thinker, and clump multiple concepts together, which leads to your present confusion.

    Quite frankly, you should not be discussing any theological topic, and focus on spiritual works. 

    Sean, I was here 10 years ago but, because of buffoons such as yourself, I headed for less toxic and more intelligent pastures.  I decided to come back and see if anything had changed.  And, well, you win the Blue Ribbon for demonstrating that nothing has. 

    Hint: Ask your mother to put less starch in the laundry - your knickers are in a twist, and it seems to be giving you a rash. 

    Also, try checking your spelling before posting you annoying idiotic twit.

    In charity, Cheers.

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing III (no. 804)
    « Reply #138 on: December 16, 2022, 11:28:24 PM »
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  • As de Lugo reported, this is a lie, and I’ll tell the forum the true story:

    Sean - My Dearest Ignoramus,

    I'm not a liar.  Park your tricycle in the driveway, come up to your computer, and release the damn email.  Your mother is calling.

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing III (no. 804)
    « Reply #139 on: December 17, 2022, 06:33:26 AM »
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  • As de Lugo reported, this is a lie, and I’ll tell the forum the true story:

    Fr. Hewko’s Canadian dupes hadn’t received sacraments in over two years because he couldn’t cross into Canada unvaxed, and he’d schooled them since the Pfeifferian days, that it was not permissible for them to receive the sacraments from anyone associated with Bishop Williamson and the “fake resistance,” lest they too become guilty by association in the same compromises.

    In other words, these people hadn’t had anything to do with Williamson & Co. since at least 2014.

    But Fr. Hewko’s conscience got the better of him, so he called Fr. Girouard (ie., one of the “Williamson compromisers”), and asked him if he would start doing Mass circuits to Fr. Hewko’s people in various Canadian locales (Fr. Girouard already being located in Canada).

    Fr. Girouard agreed, and in fact did begin covering Fr. Hewko’s territory.

    But then in October, Canada lifted the Vax requirement, so Fr. Hewko resumed the old strategy, and told Fr. Girouard that unless he would publicly denounce Williamson, he was no longer welcome to continue the circuit, and went right back to indoctrinating his “faithful.”

    So the lie de Lugo spoke of was not on the part of the priest, but on the part of MOTS, in pretending that some Williamson supporters had recently left because of his position on recently discussed topics, when the reality is that they’d been gone for over 8+ years,

    But what is most interesting to me, is that Fr. Hewko would hold his faithful hostage from the sacraments for 2+ years on the pretext of not “compromising,” when it was Fr. Hewko himself who, according to his own stupid principle, “compromised” by reaching out to Fr. Girouard in the first place!

    “‘Tis for thee, but not for me.”

    So his faithful can have no collaboration with compromisers, but Fr. Hewko can request “compromisers” to cover Mass circuits, provide Holy oils, request delegation to perform confirmations, etc.

    That's the true story about the events MOTS told.
    So, I'll ask again.  Sean, are you "de Lugo"?  Be honest.


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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing III (no. 804)
    « Reply #140 on: December 17, 2022, 06:35:19 AM »
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  • So, I'll ask again.  Sean, are you "de Lugo"?  Be honest.

    Honesty is good!

    :popcorn:
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing III (no. 804)
    « Reply #141 on: December 17, 2022, 06:39:03 AM »
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  • Honesty is good!

    :popcorn:
    Clearly you (and de Lugo) can't answer the question.  I will no longer interact with you because I think you are the liar.  

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing III (no. 804)
    « Reply #142 on: December 17, 2022, 06:41:48 AM »
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  • Clearly you (and de Lugo) can't answer the question.  I will no longer interact with you because I think you are the liar. 

    You have the arrogant aire of a Jєωess, if you think you’re in any position to demand anything of me (lol).

    And while it is fun to string you along in punishment, I’m curious to know what lies you are attributing to me (and if you can’t produce any, is not your accusation a lie itself?).

    PS: Are you Jєωιѕн?
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing III (no. 804)
    « Reply #143 on: December 17, 2022, 06:45:01 AM »
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  • You have the arrogant aire of a Jєωess, if you think you’re in any position to demand anything of me (lol).

    And while it is fun to string you along in punishment, I’m curious to know what lies you are attributing to me (and if you can’t produce any, is not your accusation a lie itself?).

    PS: Are you Jєωιѕн?
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    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing III (no. 804)
    « Reply #145 on: December 17, 2022, 06:53:58 AM »
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  • Waiting.

    :popcorn:
    I already told you I'm no longer interacting with you.  So you'll keep waiting.


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    Re: Eleison Comments - Questions Ensuing III (no. 804)
    « Reply #146 on: December 17, 2022, 06:55:01 AM »
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  • I already told you I'm no longer interacting with you.  So you'll keep waiting.

    Definitely Jєωιѕн.

    See how that works?
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."