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Offline PG

Re: SSPX, Econe: "Non Conciliar jurisdiction marriages are schismatic"
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2018, 10:17:01 PM »
Quote from: Incredulous on January 23, 2018, 09:46:37 PM
The article says it is a new official position for the SSX to deem a Conciliar marriage morally good.
And, with this new position, any priests or faithful who do not comply are schismatic.

Is this not what has the October uproar in France was all about?  The French saw the sellout coming.

Now it is here: SSPXers who do not comply to Msgr. Fellay's marriage jurisdiction edicts are immoral.

Disobeying Msgr. Fellay, is the state or quality of being immoral; wickedness,badness, evil, vileness, corruption, dishonesty, dishonorableness...etc.

Do you get it now ?
One of the things that always disgusted me was when ecclesia dei would remarry sspx couples who left the sspx.  Basically the ecclesia dei considering sspx marriages invalid was so rediculous to me it seemed just like nasty politics.  And, if the sspx heads down that path, that will be very bad.  Given the neosspx ecclesiology, them simply having a NO notary you could call it is really not the big deal.  But, for them to say it is immoral to do contrary is not what I like to hear.  But, they have been implying that for a long time with many other criticisms and condemnations of the resistance.  So, it is not really new.  Still, nothing I read in this literature is explicitly saying that neosspx considers resistance marriages immoral.  So, don't jump the gun, it is not a healthy practice.  
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Offline Mr G

Re: SSPX, Econe: "Non Conciliar jurisdiction marriages are schismatic"
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2018, 08:00:42 AM »
Father Jean-Michel Gleize was the one who was against a legal unity without being united in the True Faith, now he says this! The situation with the SSPX gets worse and worse each month.
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: SSPX, Econe: "Non Conciliar jurisdiction marriages are schismatic"
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2018, 09:16:19 AM »
The SSPX priests need to take a vow of poverty and give all their possessions to the poor parishioners and follow Christ. The fact that they are one eyed men in a country of blind men, has gone to their heads.

The Rich Young Man
(Mark 10:17-31; Luke 18:18-30)

16And behold one came and said to him: Good master, what good shall I do that I may have life everlasting? 17Who said to him: Why asketh thou me concerning good? One is good, God. But if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18He said to him: Which? And Jesus said: Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness. 19Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 20The young man saith to him: All these I have kept from my youth, what is yet wanting to me? 21Jesus saith to him: If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me. 22And when the young man had heard this word, he went away sad: for he had great possessions.
23Then Jesus said to his disciples: Amen, I say to you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24And again I say to you: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. 25And when they had heard this, the disciples wondered very much, saying: Who then can be saved? 26And Jesus beholding, said to them: With men this is impossible: but with God all things are possible.
27Then Peter answering, said to him: Behold we have left all things, and have followed thee: what therefore shall we have? 28And Jesus said to them: Amen, I say to you, that you, who have followed me, in the regeneration, when the Son of man shall sit on the seat of his majesty, you also shall sit on twelve seats judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And every one that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall possess life everlasting. 30And many that are first, shall be last: and the last shall be first.
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Offline Incredulous

Re: SSPX, Econe: "Non Conciliar jurisdiction marriages are schismatic"
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2018, 10:28:52 AM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on January 24, 2018, 09:16:19 AM
The SSPX priests need to take a vow of poverty and give all their possessions to the poor parishioners and follow Christ. The fact that they are one eyed men in a country of blind men, has gone to their heads.

The Rich Young Man
(Mark 10:17-31; Luke 18:18-30)

16And behold one came and said to him: Good master, what good shall I do that I may have life everlasting? 17Who said to him: Why asketh thou me concerning good? One is good, God. But if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18He said to him: Which? And Jesus said: Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness. 19Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 20The young man saith to him: All these I have kept from my youth, what is yet wanting to me? 21Jesus saith to him: If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me. 22And when the young man had heard this word, he went away sad: for he had great possessions.
23Then Jesus said to his disciples: Amen, I say to you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24And again I say to you: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. 25And when they had heard this, the disciples wondered very much, saying: Who then can be saved? 26And Jesus beholding, said to them: With men this is impossible: but with God all things are possible.
27Then Peter answering, said to him: Behold we have left all things, and have followed thee: what therefore shall we have? 28And Jesus said to them: Amen, I say to you, that you, who have followed me, in the regeneration, when the Son of man shall sit on the seat of his majesty, you also shall sit on twelve seats judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And every one that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall possess life everlasting. 30And many that are first, shall be last: and the last shall be first.

Very appropriate Scriptural quote LT.

Gone are the inspirational days of a humble SSPX.  

The Order has allowed Conciliarism to overtake them.
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