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Offline Kelley

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« on: March 28, 2014, 07:47:32 PM »
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  • Number CCCL (350) 29th March 2014

    SUBSTITUTE RELIGION

    Two months ago a self-declared atheist celebrated in France his 85th birthday, to whom all theists of the true religion owe a serious debt of thanks, because in today’s world of lies Professor Robert Faurisson has been a powerful defender of truth. I for one might wish that many more believers in the true God would have his intelligence and honesty in discerning the truth, and his courage to tell it.

    For instance, whether or not it is a historical fact that there were six million victims of gassing in gas chambers of the Third Reich, Prof. Faurisson insists on treating it as a historical question to be settled by the facts and scientific evidence, and not by emotion and legislation – what could be more reasonable ? And yet on this particular question a mass of our contemporaries will not listen to reason. Are their minds still functioning ? Our warm gratitude goes to the Professor for bringing an excellent and scholarly mind to bear on a historical question as a question of history and not of something else.

    Something else ? Again, whether or not the Six Million are a historical reality, it is the Professor who states that they have in any case acquired the status of a secular religion. Does it take a supposedly irreligious man to discern what serves as the main religion of our times ? I might wish a few more Catholics would have the gumption to see and say what is today’s main rival to their true religion. Here is a very brief overview of an article written on the subject in 2008 by Professor Faurisson:--

    The Six Million constitute a lay religion with its own dogma, commandments, decrees, prophets, high priests and Saints: St Anne (Frank), St Simon (Wiesenthal), St Elie (Wiesel). It has its holy places, its rituals and its pilgrimages. It has its temples and its relics (bars of soap, piles of shoes, etc.), its martyrs, heroes, miracles and miraculous survivors (millions of them), its golden legend and its righteous people. Auschwitz is its Golgotha, Hitler is its Satan. It dictates its law to the nations. Its heart beats in Jerusalem, at the Yad Veshem monument.

    It is a new religion that has enjoyed a meteoric growth since World War II. It has conquered the West and is setting out to conquer the world. Whereas the progress of scientific thinking in our consumer society has weakened the grip of all the classic religions by making people more and more sceptical as to the truth of religion’s stories and the promises religion holds out, the new religion prospers to the point that anybody caught denying its basic dogma is branded as a “Revisionist”, is cast out of the community, and is treated like only heretics used to be treated. It is in effect a religion, and it is today a major instrument, and, one might say, the popular religion of the godless nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.


    The Professor argues that this success can be attributed to its resorting to the consumer society’s own techniques of advertising and selling. Here I think he does lack the religious perspective. Surely the apostasy of the once Christian nations is the main explanation. Christ is God. When God is pushed out, he leaves behind him a huge void which must be filled by something. The promoters of the new religion have by their history a matchless instinct for the fabrication of substitute religions. But be that as it may, I would invite believers to pray for the unbelieving Professor so that he may collect the divine reward which, humanly seen, he deserves for the heroic services which he has rendered to the truth.

    Kyrie eleison.


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    « Reply #1 on: March 28, 2014, 07:49:50 PM »
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  • Beautifully put by his Grace.
    Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!


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    « Reply #2 on: March 29, 2014, 05:18:30 AM »
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  • Indeed, if a modern mythology can be created and instituted as a new religion to replace a delapidated one, we can at least record that we were present at its inception and wonder how far it will influence the world in the coming years and centuries. Fortunately, we have atheists and others drawing the same conclusions; we are not alone in seeing a horror unfolding.

    To extend this development, we would see the bishop eagerly predict that the coming anti-Christ would champion this religion in the making and demand all should bow down before it if they are not already doing so. To be totally effective though it would need to be part of global thinking and overcome the understandable suspicions of growing non-Western interests.

    We know how the conciliar popes (and Bp. Fellay) pay homage to this embryonic theology and would merge it with their own if under pressure. To this end all parties are consciously or unconsciously watering down the new covenant and adopting an accommodating posture. We await more articles of faith hybridising the Roman church further.    

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    « Reply #3 on: March 29, 2014, 10:49:41 AM »
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    We know how the conciliar popes (and Bp. Fellay) pay homage to this embryonic theology ,(i.e. h0Ɩ0cαųstianity)  and would merge it with their own if under pressure.


    Yes indeed.  In fact, for me anyway, that's where the "resistance" movement began.  It began at that very moment in 2009 when Bp. Fellay rolled over for "our elder brothers," and inferred that somehow we Catholics share a Biblical, covenantal heritage with these тαℓмυdic rascals.  The Catholic hierarchy of the new church have brought our Holy Religion utterly to shame.  Must we compound that shame by permitting the superior general of SSPx to cast us into a virtual alliance with the ѕуηαgσgυє of satan?

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    « Reply #4 on: March 29, 2014, 11:46:50 AM »
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  • (Paraphrase from a talk by His Lordship)

    "Tell us who we are not allowed to criticize in public and I'll tell you who holds the real power in this society."  


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    « Reply #5 on: March 29, 2014, 01:08:59 PM »
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  • A beautiful piece from Bishop Williamson.  I do believe the tide is beginning to turn.  There are more and more people who know this is a тαℓмυdic Lie to enslave the Gentiles.  More and more people are ready for the truth as they awaken to the evils of our Jєωιѕн central banks, 9/11, etc., etc.,

    I like to burn dvds to have on hand.  I usually put a couple of shorter videos first.

    Herman Rosenblatt lying to Good Morning America
    Honest h0Ɩ0cαųst Survivors Talking about music, libraries, sports in the camps
    Ernst Zundel Debunking the Lie which is much longer and details the collapse of the story when "witnesses" and "experts" are cross-examined in court

    One thing I think we desperately need are some well-crafted, humorous questions/slogans to burst the complacency of the masses.  I've tried laying out factual issues, the persecution of those ask questions, etc., but the brainwashing is so deep.

    Some funny, memorable hooks that would force people ponder the state of their unthinking worship of this false religion would be very useful.  Please PM me an notions.  Thanks.

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    « Reply #6 on: March 30, 2014, 05:17:05 AM »
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  • Western institutions have bought into the arguments that the nation states of Europe were intrinsically harmful for mankind and that the only important criteria when organising societies were economic ones. National identity and culture had to be sacrificed on the altar of financial and marketing theory. This is the conclusion of Faurisson whereas the bishop sees modern social development as the final stage in turning one's back on divine guidance.

    Post-war Europe was the laboratory for these new theories and America and the Soviets provided the muscle. So, out go nationalisms, colonial interests and church/state partnerships and in come binding treaties, international finance and 'human rights'. Germany has to be the focus for all the 'sins' of old Europe and the Church; Rome acknowledges her culpability. The success of the new order depends on trashing the old and it is therefore acceptable to skew history. Our legal systems will not look kindly on attempts to unearth unpalatable truths.

    I think Faurisson would be more inclined to view the replacement religion as the economic system which is based on the human capacity to work and consume. All other activities lacking a financial bearing have to be controlled or converted. He may support the old Christian system of church and state if the alternative is what we have now. And the bishop will look more closely at the process of introducing new articles of faith in the church of the future as some spiritual underpinning of secular ideology.      

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    « Reply #7 on: March 30, 2014, 09:47:06 AM »
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  • .

    ...................................between the lines.......................................

    Quote from: +W

    [Faurisson]:
    Whereas the progress of scientific thinking in our consumer society has weakened the grip of all the classic religions by making people more and more sceptical as to the truth of religion’s stories and the promises religion holds out,


    The promises our Religion holds out include those mentioned in the Collect of the Mass of October 7th:  "...that we may imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise..."  It has become our closing prayer after the Rosary, the Mysteries of which are to what it refers.

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    the new religion prospers to the point that anybody caught denying its basic dogma is branded as a “Revisionist”,


    And those whom the new religion vehemently attacks comply with their enemies and willingly submit to the same new religion when they voluntarily refer to themselves as "revisionists."  It is a subtle war of words.  The battlefield is truth itself.

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    is cast out of the community, and is treated like only heretics used to be treated.


    Those whom the new religion attacks effectively apostasize when they say "we are revisionists."  Or, "those who would be among us who don't think we are revisionists are no longer among us."  And they are so-called 'expelled'.

     
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    It is in effect a religion, and it is today a major instrument, and, one might say, the popular religion of the godless nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.

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    The Professor argues that this success can be attributed to its resorting to the consumer society’s own techniques of advertising and selling.



    And the XSPX has resorted to GREC and Rebranding to achieve the same success.

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    Here I think he does lack the religious perspective. Surely the apostasy of the once Christian nations is the main explanation.



    And the apostasy of the XSPX is hand-in-glove with the same agenda of the new religion.  This is why +W was 'expelled' -  it is all about his adherence to the True Religion and his stand against its attackers, the stand the Menzingen-denizens refuse to take, while they take instead the assets of the Society, in their quest to "rule the world."


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    « Reply #8 on: March 30, 2014, 02:56:08 PM »
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  • It would be nice to see Bishop Williamson rise to the occasion and consecrate a bishop... he could then go into full retirement and write to his heart's content.

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    « Reply #9 on: March 30, 2014, 03:42:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: Skunkwurxsspx
    (Paraphrase from a talk by His Lordship)

    "Tell us who we are not allowed to criticize in public and I'll tell you who holds the real power in this society."  


    Well I'm here to tell you: it's not permissible to criticize the Jєωs.

    You can criticize Obama, Hillary, Mitt Romney, or most other famous personalities.

    I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.
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    « Reply #10 on: March 30, 2014, 03:48:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    Quote from: Skunkwurxsspx
    (Paraphrase from a talk by His Lordship)

    "Tell us who we are not allowed to criticize in public and I'll tell you who holds the real power in this society."  


    Well I'm here to tell you: it's not permissible to criticize the Jєωs.

    You can criticize Obama, Hillary, Mitt Romney, or most other famous personalities.

    I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.


    I agree, but you can add sodomites to this list.  If anyone dares to criticize them or their "marriage" they are labeled a "hater,"and will endure the wrath of them, their political allies and the news media.

    Look at the "Duck Dynasty" people and the St. Patricks day parade organizers, among so many others.

    The sodomites are fast becoming the dominant political class in America.  Once they fully achieve this, they will relentlessly persecute all of us.
    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic


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    « Reply #11 on: March 30, 2014, 05:54:16 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ambrose
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    (Paraphrase from a talk by His Lordship)

    "Tell us who we are not allowed to criticize in public and I'll tell you who holds the real power in this society."  


    Well I'm here to tell you: it's not permissible to criticize the Jєωs.

    You can criticize Obama, Hillary, Mitt Romney, or most other famous personalities.

    I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.


    I agree, but you can add sodomites to this list.  If anyone dares to criticize them or their "marriage" they are labeled a "hater,"and will endure the wrath of them, their political allies and the news media.

    Look at the "Duck Dynasty" people and the St. Patricks day parade organizers, among so many others.

    The sodomites are fast becoming the dominant political class in America.  Once they fully achieve this, they will relentlessly persecute all of us.


    Ambrose,

         Well said!!!

         This is absolutely true! For a group that is purportedly a relative minority in this country, the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs sure do carry a lot of clout. But then that's not too hard to understand since they have the direct backing of Satan who uses them as an "accelerant" to bring about TOTAL moral corruption in society in the SHORTEST amount of time--knowing that his time is limited.  

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    « Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 04:23:03 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ambrose
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    Quote from: Skunkwurxsspx
    (Paraphrase from a talk by His Lordship)

    "Tell us who we are not allowed to criticize in public and I'll tell you who holds the real power in this society."  


    Well I'm here to tell you: it's not permissible to criticize the Jєωs.

    You can criticize Obama, Hillary, Mitt Romney, or most other famous personalities.

    I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.


    I agree, but you can add sodomites to this list.  If anyone dares to criticize them or their "marriage" they are labeled a "hater,"and will endure the wrath of them, their political allies and the news media.

    Look at the "Duck Dynasty" people and the St. Patricks day parade organizers, among so many others.

    The sodomites are fast becoming the dominant political class in America.  Once they fully achieve this, they will relentlessly persecute all of us.



    The MSM in the UK does go after politicians in office who hire rent boys; one has just resigned. It would doubtless call this prostitution rather than perversion but it illustrates new tendencies in public life and among the elites.

    The ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ culture does pervade the top institutions which is then forced onto the masses. Aspiring young men now have boyfriends instead of girlfriends or prefer the company of other men. Whether this is because of extended childhoods or a lowering of family expectations, the demographic effects must surely show up eventually. Also, the notion that females are no longer a species apart plus intimidating feminism pushes men into considering abnormal relationships. Trouser-wearing women and openly effeminate men are certainly assaulting the gender divide.  

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    « Reply #13 on: March 31, 2014, 10:11:41 AM »
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  • Some may be interested in reading that entire 2008 article by Robert Faurisson.  I think, at any rate, that this is this is the article of which Bp. Williamson provides an overview.  It's a very good read, and probably a number of you would like to have a copy in your files.

    http://www.jailingopinions.com/faurisson-secularreligion.htm

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    « Reply #14 on: March 31, 2014, 10:48:52 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
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    And the apostasy of the XSPX is hand-in-glove with the same agenda of the new religion.  This is why +W was 'expelled' -  it is all about his adherence to the True Religion and his stand against its attackers, the stand the Menzingen-denizens refuse to take, while they take instead the assets of the Society, in their quest to "rule the world."


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    The "apostasy of the SSPX"?!?!?!?

    I know already that you are a complete nutcase, but this statement is the cherry on the cake.
    You have out done yourself this time. I suppose you think the Indult are apostates too?
    And the CMRI and SSPV?

    In fact the only Catholic priests left in the world are the resistance ( according to you).

    You complete and utter jackass.
     :mad: