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    February 4, 2017
    Fairy Tale?

    One foolish girl can ruin a whole estate
    And thereby weigh upon a Kingdom’s fate!

    Once upon a time there was a young girl (SSPX) who had been very well brought up by her good father (Archbishop Lefebvre). He had warned her about Don Juan (Neo-modernist Popes). For a number of years the girl was serious and sensible, and she resisted Don Juan’s advances. Alas, one day her beloved father died, and the girl inherited his fortune. For a while she remained faithful to his commands. Surrounded by a group of other wise girls (anti-liberals of the SSPX) she continued to administer her fortune by looking after the orphans on her father’s estate (Traditional Catholics).

    But time was passing. She was no longer so young. She began to fear growing too old to marry. She was afraid that to card her wool and work on her embroidery she would soon be on her own. Poor girl! She so wanted to be loved, to have her own legitimate children (Traditionalists recognized by Rome). She wanted to achieve more than just doing charity work for orphans. She was bored with her life. She was being mocked and insulted by neighbours who wanted her to get married (conservatives and Traditionalists gone over to Rome).

    Now Don Juan had shown again and again how wicked he was, and he had ruined and dishonoured many a good girl (Communities gone over to Rome), but he was heir to the largest family in the Kingdom, with the title of Vice-Roy (Vicar of Christ). After a prolonged study of the girl’s character and virtue, he decided on a special way to seduce her – he would appeal to her highest feelings. So he began by admitting that he was far from perfect, that he had even made mistakes. He even asked the girl if they could meet to discuss things. She used the opportunity to tell him all that she thought of him and his friends (Discussions of 2009–2011). And during all this time (2006–2012) she repeated even in public that marriage with him was out of the question unless he mended his ways.

    And then Don Juan had a brilliant idea! He told the girl that she was not like all the other girls he had known. That her stubborn resistance had opened his eyes. That she alone could heal his wounds (the post-Conciliar disasters), and make him change, and mend his ways for good! The girl decided to get advice from her friends. She gathered them together on her father’s estate (Écône, 2012). Unfortunately for her, she had by now sent away from her the sensible girls that her dead father had chosen as companions for her (a bishop and priests of the Resistance). Her own choice of friends were foolish girls who were drunk with delight at the thought of their friend marrying the Vice-Roy. So they helped to convince her (General Chapter of 2012 and aftermath) that she could transform her future husband, like St Clothilde had transformed Clovis. They told her too that Don Juan’s desire to be helped by her showed that he was already mending his ways!

    Meanwhile Don Juan kept the seduction going by maintaining contacts and discussions with the girl and her close friends. So despite the rebukes and repeated warnings from the sensible girls now living in the woods around her father’s stately home, she had made up her mind! She believed what Don Juan was telling her! She believed in the foolish girls’ arguments! Yes, she, and she alone, would succeed in saving Don Juan from himself! How could her dear old father not have given his approval!

    Poor girl! She had lost her grip on reality. She could no longer see that the Vice-Roy’s very nature was corrupted, and so he was sure to corrupt her too, and all her future children, and all the orphans on her father’s estate. As for the sensible girls, they were shivering with cold in the woods around the estate where they had been cast out. They wept for the good old father, with lamentations fit to break one’s heart. If only he could come back! Oh dear! Oh woe is us! But the only answer to their mournful wailing was the whistling of the winter wind in the trees. It was night . . .

    Kyrie eleison.
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    « Reply #1 on: February 03, 2017, 11:34:41 PM »
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  • No 'Happily Ever After' in sight. Guess I 'can't see the forest for the trees'.   :sad:


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    « Reply #2 on: February 04, 2017, 03:24:27 AM »
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  • Very good. I would have left out the explanations, however, his way is best for everyone to understand.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    « Reply #3 on: February 04, 2017, 09:08:49 AM »
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  • I think HE may be referring to the ex Catholic, illuminati princess, Lady Gaga ?
      :detective:


                 
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 09:56:16 AM »
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  • Wow- one of the worst high school pics I have EVER seen.
    Even though born "Catholic", I think "gaga's" parents (especially her father) were in the luciferian cult as well. It's generational.

    Sorry to segue off topic.


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    « Reply #5 on: February 04, 2017, 10:15:35 AM »
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  •  In raising the daughter, the Father should have forbidden associations with heretics and non-Catholics , and cautioned her to avoid believing in the visionary's fairy tales of her divine destiny to save the Church.
    We are in a serious situation now, and far beyond waxing about fairy tales while this  whole business of neo-traditional SSPXism is leading its majority into ruin and grave danger, by cleaving to the above mentioned evils.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 04, 2017, 10:32:22 AM »
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  • I've drawn this comparison in my mind many times. This savior-complex is a big problem among women, especially in trad circles where they are put on a pedestal as the ones who are supposed to carry men to virtue. It's an error that has been around a lot longer than VII so it runs deep. It's flattering at first glance but that very flattery is what ought to make one pause. There is so much pride underneath but it's masked as concern for others. It takes your breath away how pride can chameleon like that, we can't ever let our guards down.

    Women are not the only ones vulnerable to it but being a woman, I've had my own run in with it and have seen so many others fall prey to the same that I can't help but see the SSPX/Rome situation in the exact same way. There's just too much flattery and flattery-of-self involved. In spite of all the good intentions, and many do have such good intentions, the train of thought still raises strong red flags for me. Not that I would only be happy if everyone were bashing each other but the idea that the SSPX can come in and save the Church is not in tune with reality. That does not align with God's hierarchy.

    One man can do that, one man alone and that is the Pope himself. He is the only one with the God-given authority and ability to turn things around. He doesn't need the SSPX to be a good Pope. Once he's made his own personal changes and become a good Pope, then the SSPX can "join forces" with him safely, but anything said or done before that is an empty gesture.

    (Think of the addict's "good intentions" that always end up using and abusing the good will of everyone around. Each one of us has to take our own responsibility before anyone else can help us.)

    As long as the Pope is putting the onus on the SSPX then he is still not taking responsibility or taking his authority seriously and it'll be a bad outcome for the SSPX. At best he is misguided and at worst, well, we know the worst.  


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    « Reply #7 on: February 04, 2017, 11:18:40 AM »
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  • Quote from: wallflower
    I've drawn this comparison in my mind many times. This savior-complex is a big problem among women, especially in trad circles where they are put on a pedestal as the ones who are supposed to carry men to virtue. It's an error that has been around a lot longer than VII so it runs deep. It's flattering at first glance but that very flattery is what ought to make one pause. There is so much pride underneath but it's masked as concern for others. It takes your breath away how pride can chameleon like that, we can't ever let our guards down.

    Women are not the only ones vulnerable to it but being a woman, I've had my own run in with it and have seen so many others fall prey to the same that I can't help but see the SSPX/Rome situation in the exact same way. There's just too much flattery and flattery-of-self involved. In spite of all the good intentions, and many do have such good intentions, the train of thought still raises strong red flags for me. Not that I would only be happy if everyone were bashing each other but the idea that the SSPX can come in and save the Church is not in tune with reality. That does not align with God's hierarchy.

    One man can do that, one man alone and that is the Pope himself. He is the only one with the God-given authority and ability to turn things around. He doesn't need the SSPX to be a good Pope. Once he's made his own personal changes and become a good Pope, then the SSPX can "join forces" with him safely, but anything said or done before that is an empty gesture.

    (Think of the addict's "good intentions" that always end up using and abusing the good will of everyone around. Each one of us has to take our own responsibility before anyone else can help us.)

    As long as the Pope is putting the onus on the SSPX then he is still not taking responsibility or taking his authority seriously and it'll be a bad outcome for the SSPX. At best he is misguided and at worst, well, we know the worst.  



    Thanks for this post, wallflower. I hadn't completely understood why Bp. Williamson used women in his analogy, but now I see why he did so from your good explanation.

    This EC from the good bishop is one of the best.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    « Reply #8 on: February 04, 2017, 03:53:21 PM »
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    No 'Happily Ever After' in sight. Guess I 'can't see the forest for the trees'.   :sad:

    Patience, dear one!

    As for me, I think H.E.'s choice of one character name is unfortunate, since Don Juan of Austria is the leader of the Christian fleet that won the Battle of Lepanto in 1571.
    Quote from: +W

    Meanwhile Don Juan kept the seduction going by maintaining contacts and discussions with the girl and her close friends. So despite the rebukes and repeated warnings from the sensible girls now living in the woods around her father’s stately home, she had made up her mind! She believed what Don Juan was telling her! She believed in the foolish girls’ arguments! Yes, she, and she alone, would succeed in saving Don Juan from himself! How could her dear old father not have given his approval!

    Poor girl! She had lost her grip on reality. She could no longer see that the Vice-Roy’s very nature was corrupted, and so he was sure to corrupt her too, and all her future children, and all the orphans on her father’s estate. As for the sensible girls, they were shivering with cold in the woods around the estate where they had been cast out. They wept for the good old father, with lamentations fit to break one’s heart.

    If only he could come back! * Oh dear! Oh woe is us! But the only answer to their mournful wailing was the whistling of the winter wind in the trees. It was night . . .

    Kyrie eleison.


    * If only he could come back!?

    Quote from: Luke 16:31
    And he said to him: If they hear not Moses and the prophets [all the orphans on her father’s estate, the sensible girls, who were shivering with cold in the woods around the estate where they had been cast out], neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead.


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    « Reply #9 on: February 04, 2017, 04:17:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: Last Tradhican
    Very good. I would have left out the explanations, however, his way is best for everyone to understand.

    Your post made me think...

    This is how it would have looked without the explanations.  Do you still like it that way?

    Quote from:  +W would have

    One foolish girl can ruin a whole estate
    And thereby weigh upon a Kingdom’s fate!

    Once upon a time there was a young girl who had been very well brought up by her good father. He had warned her about Don Juan. For a number of years the girl was serious and sensible, and she resisted Don Juan’s advances. Alas, one day her beloved father died, and the girl inherited his fortune. For a while she remained faithful to his commands. Surrounded by a group of other wise girls, she continued to administer her fortune by looking after the orphans on her father’s estate.

    But time was passing. She was no longer so young. She began to fear growing too old to marry. She was afraid that to card her wool and work on her embroidery she would soon be on her own. Poor girl! She so wanted to be loved, to have her own legitimate children. She wanted to achieve more than just doing charity work for orphans. She was bored with her life. She was being mocked and insulted by neighbours who wanted her to get married.

    Now Don Juan had shown again and again how wicked he was, and he had ruined and dishonoured many a good girl, but he was heir to the largest family in the Kingdom, with the title of Vice-Roy. After a prolonged study of the girl’s character and virtue, he decided on a special way to seduce her – he would appeal to her highest feelings. So he began by admitting that he was far from perfect, that he had even made mistakes. He even asked the girl if they could meet to discuss things. She used the opportunity to tell him all that she thought of him and his friends. And during all this time, she repeated even in public that marriage with him was out of the question unless he mended his ways.

    And then Don Juan had a brilliant idea! He told the girl that she was not like all the other girls he had known. That her stubborn resistance had opened his eyes. That she alone could heal his wounds, and make him change, and mend his ways for good! The girl decided to get advice from her friends. She gathered them together on her father’s estate. Unfortunately for her, she had by now sent away from her the sensible girls that her dead father had chosen as companions for her. Her own choice of friends were foolish girls who were drunk with delight at the thought of their friend marrying the Vice-Roy. So they helped to convince her, that she could transform her future husband, like St Clothilde had transformed Clovis. They told her too that Don Juan’s desire to be helped by her showed that he was already mending his ways!

    Meanwhile Don Juan kept the seduction going by maintaining contacts and discussions with the girl and her close friends. So despite the rebukes and repeated warnings from the sensible girls now living in the woods around her father’s stately home, she had made up her mind! She believed what Don Juan was telling her! She believed in the foolish girls’ arguments! Yes, she, and she alone, would succeed in saving Don Juan from himself! How could her dear old father not have given his approval!

    Poor girl! She had lost her grip on reality. She could no longer see that the Vice-Roy’s very nature was corrupted, and so he was sure to corrupt her too, and all her future children, and all the orphans on her father’s estate. As for the sensible girls, they were shivering with cold in the woods around the estate where they had been cast out. They wept for the good old father, with lamentations fit to break one’s heart. If only he could come back! Oh dear! Oh woe is us! But the only answer to their mournful wailing was the whistling of the winter wind in the trees. It was night . . .

    Kyrie eleison.


    You're right, Last Tradhican.  It's a very nice (if very short) story.

    That quip about St Clothilde transforming Clovis is a potential tear-jerker!

    It's almost too short.  I'm sure if +W had his way with the format he would like to expand it a little, to flesh it out, and it would make a marvelous short story. It could even be made into a play.  But to make it fit in one EC, certain editorial decisions had to be made. Oh, well.  Such is our present condition.

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    « Reply #10 on: February 04, 2017, 04:37:20 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
    No 'Happily Ever After' in sight. Guess I 'can't see the forest for the trees'.   :sad:

    Patience, dear one!

    As for me, I think H.E.'s choice of one character name is unfortunate, since Don Juan of Austria is the leader of the Christian fleet that won the Battle of Lepanto in 1571.
    Quote from: +W

    Meanwhile Don Juan kept the seduction going by maintaining contacts and discussions with the girl and her close friends. So despite the rebukes and repeated warnings from the sensible girls now living in the woods around her father’s stately home, she had made up her mind! She believed what Don Juan was telling her! She believed in the foolish girls’ arguments! Yes, she, and she alone, would succeed in saving Don Juan from himself! How could her dear old father not have given his approval!

    Poor girl! She had lost her grip on reality. She could no longer see that the Vice-Roy’s very nature was corrupted, and so he was sure to corrupt her too, and all her future children, and all the orphans on her father’s estate. As for the sensible girls, they were shivering with cold in the woods around the estate where they had been cast out. They wept for the good old father, with lamentations fit to break one’s heart.

    If only he could come back! * Oh dear! Oh woe is us! But the only answer to their mournful wailing was the whistling of the winter wind in the trees. It was night . . .

    Kyrie eleison.


    * If only he could come back!?

    Quote from: Luke 16:31
    And he said to him: If they hear not Moses and the prophets [all the orphans on her father’s estate, the sensible girls, who were shivering with cold in the woods around the estate where they had been cast out], neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead.



    Context: Luke 16:19-31

    [19] There was a certain rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen; and feasted sumptuously every day. [20] And there was a certain beggar, named Lazarus, who lay at his gate, full of sores, [21] desiring to be filled with the crumbs that fell from the rich man's table, and no one did give him; moreover the dogs came, and licked his sores. [22] And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. And the rich man also died: and he was buried in hell. [23] And lifting up his eyes when he was in torments, he saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom: [24] And he cried, and said: Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, to cool my tongue: for I am tormented in this flame. [25] And Abraham said to him: Son, remember that thou didst receive good things in thy lifetime, and likewise Lazareth (Lazarus?) evil things, but now he is comforted; and thou art tormented.

    ([22] Abraham's bosom: The place of rest, where the souls of the saints resided, till Christ had opened heaven by his death.)

    [26]And besides all this, between us and you, there is fixed a great chaos: so that they who would pass from hence to you, cannot, nor from thence come hither. [27] And he said: Then, father, I beseech thee, that thou wouldst send him to my father's house, for I have five brethren, [28] That he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torments. [29] And Abraham said to him: They have Moses and the prophets;

    [all the orphans on her father’s estate, the sensible girls, who were shivering with cold in the woods around the estate where they had been cast out]

    Let them hear them.

    [let the foolish girl hear the sensible girls, lest the foolish girl remain the foolhardy one]

    [30] But he said: No, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will do penance. And he said to him: If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead. *

    [. . . the whistling of the winter wind in the trees. It was night . . .]

    [* If Archbishop Lefebvre were to return from the dead to straighten out the Neo XSPX, they would not pay one whit of attention to him, just as the rich man's five brethren would not have paid attention to Lazarus or any other man (such as Our Lord) rising from the dead.]

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    « Reply #11 on: February 05, 2017, 06:52:30 AM »
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    As for me, I think H.E.'s choice of one character name is unfortunate, since Don Juan of Austria is the leader of the Christian fleet that won the Battle of Lepanto in 1571.


    That may be true but today "Don Juan" has the connotation of a serial womanizer, someone who has left a trail of broken hearts behind, someone who is flashy and "charming" but empty. A wise woman avoids him and a foolish one wants to be the one who changes him.


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  • Remember that the English have a hard time liking the Spanish....

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    In raising the daughter, the Father should have forbidden associations with heretics and non-Catholics , and cautioned her to avoid believing in the visionary's fairy tales of her divine destiny to save the Church.
    We are in a serious situation now, and far beyond waxing about fairy tales while this  whole business of neo-traditional SSPXism is leading its majority into ruin and grave danger, by cleaving to the above mentioned evils.


    But Daddy also said this!:

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/B135_LefebvreLetter.html

    Archbishop Lefebvre:
    'Rome Is Occupied by Antichrists'


        TIA received from one of our readers the letter we reproduce below, which has been circulating on at least one mailing list after Pope's Benedict XVI's Motu proprio.

        It is a docuмent allegedly written on August 29, 1987 by Archbishop Marcel Lefèbvre to the four priests he would later consecrate as Bishops in 1988. The letter gives the rationale for the Prelate's belief that it was indispensdable to make new Bishops. The reasons are: the destruction of the Kingdom of Our Lord in souls and society, the New Mass, and the modernist and liberal reforms of Vatican II. This would characterize the See of Peter
        as being occupied by Antichrists.

        This letter was published in April 1996 by the Catholic, an Australian paper that later became an organ of the Society of St. Pius X, according to the information provided to us. The Editor of TIA website wrote to the person responsible for that mailing list to inquire about the credibility of the letter and its translation.
        We post his answer.

        We consider this docuмent to have the appearance of truth, and if its authenticity is proved, it can help many of our readers to understand the crossroads that the organization is facing when it envisages an agreement with the same Rome condemned by its founder.




    WhatPeopleAreSaying

        Greetings Atila,

        The letter was printed in the Catholic and at the time [1996] the paper was being printed in Australia by a layman. I forgot his name. He later turned the paper over to Monastery group out of England which is a part of SSPX.

        It's a credible source.

             Hope all is well.

             In Christ, Joseph Sarraceno




    Letter Attributed to Archbishop Lefebvre

        Feast of St. Augustine, August 29, 1987.


        Adveniat Regnum Tuum

        To: Frs. Williamson, Tissier de Mallcrais, Fellay, de Gallareia.

        My Dear Friends,

        The See of Peter and posts of authority in Rome being occupied by anti-Christs, the destruction of the Kingdom of Our Lord is being rapidly carried out even within His Mystical Body here below, especially through the corruption of the Holy Mass which is both the splendid expression of the triumph of Our Lord on the Cross, Regnavit a Ligno Deus, and the source of the extension of His Kingdom over souls and over societies. Hence the absolute need appears obvious of ensuring the permanency and continuation of the adorable Sacrifice of Our Lord in order that "His Kingdom, Come." The corruption of the Holy Mass has brought the corruption of the priesthood and the universal decadence of Faith in the Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

        God raised up the Priestly Society of St. Pius X for the maintenance and perpetuity of His glorious expiatory sacrifice within the Church. He Himself chose some true priests instructed in and convinced of these divine mysteries. God bestowed upon me the grace to prepare these Levites and to confer upon them the grace of the priesthood for the continuation of the true sacrifice according to the definition of the Council of Trent.

        This is what has brought down upon our heads persecution by the Rome of the anti-Christs. Since this Rome, Modernist and Liberal, is carrying on its work of destruction of the Kingdom of Our Lord, as Assisi and the confirmation of the liberal theses of Vatican II on Religious Liberty prove, I find myself constrained by Divine Providence to pass on the grace of Catholic episcopacy which I received, I order that the Church and the Catholic priesthood continue to subsist for the glory of God and for the salvation of souls.

        That is why, convinced that I am only carrying out the holy will of Our Lord, I am writing this letter to ask you to agree to receive the graces of the Catholic episcopacy, just as I have already conferred it on other priests in other circuмstances. I will bestow this grace upon you, confident that without too long a delay the See of Peter will be occupied by a successor of Peter who is perfectly Catholic, and into whose hand you will be able to put back the grace of your episcopacy so that he may confirm it.

        The main purpose of my passing on the episcopacy is that the grace of priestly orders be continued, for the true Sacrifice of the Holy Mass be continued, and that the grace of the Sacrament of Confirmation be bestowed upon children and upon the faithful who will ask you for it.

        I beseech you to remain attached in the See of Peter, in the Roman Church, mother and mistress of all the Churches in the integral Catholic Faith, expressed in the various creeds of our Catholic Faith, in the Catechism of the Council of Trent, in conformity with what you were taught in your seminary. Remain faithful in the handing down of this faith so that the Kingdom of Our Lord may come.

        Finally, I beseech you to remain attached to the Priestly Society of St. Pius X, to remain profoundly united amongst yourselves, in submission to the Society's Superior General, in the Catholic Faith of all time, remembering this word of St. Paul to the Galatians: "But even if we or an angel from heaven were to teach you a different gospel from the one we have taught, let him be anathema. As we have said before, now again I say: if anyone teaches you a different gospel from what you have received, 'let him be anathema'" (Gal. 1:8-9). My dear friends, be my consolation in Christ Jesus, remain strong in the Faith, faithful to the true Sacrifice of the Mass, to the true and holy priesthood of Our Lord for the triumph and glory of Jesus in heaven and upon earth, for the salvation of souls, for the salvation of my own soul.

        In the hearts of Jesus and Mary, I embrace you and bless you.

             Your Father in Christ Jesus.

             + Marcel Lefèbvre


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    Eleison Comments - Fairy Tale? Number CDXCIX (499)
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  • JPaul said:
    In raising the daughter, the Father should have forbidden associations with heretics and non-Catholics , and cautioned her to avoid believing in the visionary's fairy tales of her divine destiny to save the Church.
    We are in a serious situation now, and far beyond waxing about fairy tales while this  whole business of neo-traditional SSPXism is leading its majority into ruin and grave danger, by cleaving to the above mentioned evils.


    Visionaries like Maria Valtorta and attending at what has been judged as a schismatic mass by Fr. Hesse of recent memory?