Plenty of catholics have benefited from the sspx even if many of their priests are liberal.  Those laity who aren't strong in their faith, only have themselves to blame.  The mass outweighs other concerns...at the moment.


A Catholic has an obligation to attend mass, under pain of mortal sin.  Right now, the sspx offers valid mass/sacraments and people have an OBLIGATION to attend, if they have no other alternatives.  One CANNOT stay at home if there is an sspx mass available.

If/when the sspx becomes an indult/rome mass, then your arguments apply.  Until then, the obligation of attending mass trumps all other concerns.

That is a matter of opinion.

You are not the Pope. Please stop pretending to rule on practical, prudential matters. You have no authority to issue Papal proclamations, or issue encyclicals to settle and clarify disputed matters.

I appreciate that this is a hot issue for Trads (like the status of the Pope) -- one side calls the other schismatic, while that side calls the other compromisers/fence sitters. 
Neither of those things is good. They both can't be right. It's an important matter of the Faith, etc.

Nevertheless, the objective truth on the matter is not within our reach. We have enough info to reach a prudential decision for ourselves and our families (which isn't saying much; a prudential decision has no minimum info requirement!), but we don't have the certainty to be able to bind the conscience of others.

It's not as simple as you think. If it were, then those who disagree with you would be bad-willed people voluntarily choosing hell. I assure you that isn't the case. There are those abstaining from the SSPX and staying at home who love God every bit as much as you -- perhaps even more -- and have made *greater* sacrifices and commitment to God. Let's just say there are some on "the other side" from you who are holier and less inclined to give up their soul than you are.

The same goes for the eternal Sede vs. R&R debate.

If you don't believe me, then too bad, because you're simply wrong.

Matthew: That is a matter of opinion.

You (PV) are not the Pope. Please stop pretending to rule on practical, prudential matters. You have no authority to issue Papal proclamations, or issue encyclicals to settle and clarify disputed matters.

Glad the forum's owner responded.  PV was out of line, but better that M say it than I.

PV:

The fact of the matter is that the decision to 'stay home' cannot be made lightly due to politics or personal preferences. 

I'm afraid that prior to Matthew's well reasoned comments above, PV, you might have declared the 'stay home' position a mortal sin.  I think, also, that you were forced to abridge your earlier remarks about sspx chapels. 
I don't wish to pick an argument with you unnecessarily; but you seem to have dialed back a bit, which, IMO anyway, is good.

Or, one can ask alternately: how many graces have already been lost by Catholics still in attendance at SSPX chapels?  These Catholics can do what many traditional Catholics have already done.  They can search for independent alternatives, or stay home alone and say their Rosaries.  SSPX Catholics, who should know better,  support an organization which continues to function only because of them. Otherwise, it would justifiably sink into oblivion.  I have no sympathy for your argument.

Not sure what you are saying but what makes you believe people lose graces by assisting at SSPX Masses and receiving the sacraments from their priests? That's stupid talk. Are you Novus Ordo? If so, I understand why you said what you said.

A few years ago when +Williamson came to the area for Mass and a Conference, I went, and I also asked the Prior of my chapel at the time if he wanted to go. He would have gone except he had to administer Extreme Unction. He did ask me how it went the next time we spoke and was happy that the good Bishop was doing well and keeping the faith.

I was raised with SSPX and Independent priests - both offer the Holy Sacrifice, administer valid sacraments and preach the Gospel. Currently, our SSPX Prior started preaching what he said will be a series of Sunday sermons on the Liturgy, he said this should continue on for the next 6 - 12 months. So far, in the process of his preaching, he's specifically criticized the NOM for what it is the last two Sundays and held a short conference after Mass a few weeks ago on the same subject. We'll see how verbally he condemns the NO in the coming Sunday sermons, but saying anything at all against the NOM is a plus in my book.

So your idea of the SSPX and Independent priests (as if Independents are some how superior to SSPX priests by default) is off the mark, at least in my neck of the woods for sure.    

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I cannot travel either as the fumes from auto exhaust make me physically ill.
Taking a plane is also not an option as I have severe vertigo.

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Have you tried drinking only alkaline water for a few weeks?
Start with pH 8.5 and after a week and feeling good, move up to 9.0 for two weeks.
Then if you're doing okay with that, go on up to 9.5 pH, and stay there.
I've been on 9.5 for 3 years now and I never get dizzy or sick from exhaust fumes.
I haven't even had a cold or flu for 3 years!
I used to get sea sick really fast, but those days are gone!
It could be toxins in your system, and alkaline water helps to flush toxins out.
There are also herbal cleanses you can do, but be careful with too high pH water for the first few weeks.
Drinking alkaline water AND doing herbal cleanse could give you increased symptoms, but that's because the heavy metals and toxins are getting flushed out, so you could feel nauseous or dizzy, but don't give up! Those problems will decrease as your system gets cleaner!

I don’t plan to engage in tit or tat with other forum members on this subject.

You're the one who wanted to debate the topic, then you say you won't debate, then you complain when the topic fizzles out.  ??...??...??