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Offline MaterDominici

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Eleison Comments - Defending Marriage (515)
« on: May 27, 2017, 11:49:44 PM »
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  • Defending Marriage

    Whoever tries to crush a true protest
    Takes on the Truth, and will not come off best.


    Many of you must already know of the Open Letter of seven senior priests of the Society of St Pius X, a Letter co-signed by Superiors of three other Traditional Congregations, in which all ten protested three weeks ago against an attempt by Roman authorities to interfere in marriages celebrated within Tradition by Traditional priests. As usual, Society authorities have taken the side of Conciliar Rome, and are in the process of punishing their seven “subversive” priests. But the true subversion is coming from that Rome which is subverting Christian family and marriage, for instance by Amoris Laetitia. Society leaders are giving yet another proof of their suicidal blindness. Here is the gist of the well-written Letter:—

    Addressed to Society lay-folk to prevent them from being confused by Rome’s interference, the Open Letter begins by establishing that marriages celebrated within the Society for the last 40 years have been and are certainly valid. This is because, to strengthen marriages, the Council of Trent decreed that they must be witnessed by a parish priest or his delegate to be valid. However, if for 30 days it is not possible without “grave inconvenience” to find such a priest, then the couple may marry validly in front of merely lay witnesses, by what is known as the extraordinary form of marriage (Canon 1098, Old Code).

    Now for 40 years the Society has been fighting the neo-modernism of Vatican II which is poisonous for the Faith and highly infectious, and which has infected almost the entire Church since the 1960’s. So the Society has instructed souls to stay away from the Novus Ordo Church and its clergy, as a whole. For instance in Amoris Laetitia the Pope himself made statements and proposals directly harmful to families and Catholic marriages. Here is the “grave inconvenience” for the Faith which is why for 40 years, when couples have wished to get mar ried, the Society, seeing the danger for their Faith, has steered them away from Novus Ordo parish priests and towards the extraordinary form of marriage, usual within the Society and certainly valid.

    However, how could neo-modernist Rome see a “grave inconvenience” in exposure to their neo-modernising priests? Therefore in future, says the Ecclesia Dei Commission, as one more step in Rome’s absorption of the Society into the Newchurch, the extraordinary form of marriage is no longer to be used by Society priests, and instead Society marriages are to be witnessed by a Novus Ordo priest appointed or delegated for that purpose by the local Novus Ordo bishop, without whose participation Society marriages will continue to be judged invalid by the Newchurch authorities. This means bringing the extraordinary form of marriage under the local bishop’s control. But after repeated bitter discussions, even the framers of the New Code of Canon Law (1983) judged that such a mea sure was too opposed to the natural right of couples to get married, and New Canon 1116 maintains the extraordinary form. That is why the ten senior priests who signed the Open Letter conclude that they will continue to use the extraordinary form, without resorting to any Newchurch bishop. Nor, they add, will they resort to Newchurch tribunals to judge of marriage cases, because these tribunals all too easily grant annulments for inadequate reasons. All ten priests who signed the Open Letter are to be congratulated!

    And the Society’s reaction? On April 4 the docuмent of the Ecclesia Dei Commission on SSPX marriages became known, spitting in effect on the Society. Immediately Society Headquarters in Menzingen welcomed the docuмent, treating it in effect as rain from heaven. On May 7 the ten senior priests made public their protest against the Ecclesia Dei interference. On the same day the Society’s French District Superior branded their protest as “subversive, ” and on May 10 the seven Society priests who signed the Open Letter he stripped of their senior rank within the District, and Fr. de la Rocque, pastor of the Society’s flagship parish in Paris, St Nicolas du Chardonnet, he gave three days to clear out.

    Such leadership proved that the Society is sinking. The Open Letter proved that it is not yet sunk.

    Kyrie eleison.
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson


    Offline Maria Regina

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    Re: Eleison Comments - Defending Marriage (515)
    « Reply #1 on: May 28, 2017, 02:47:25 AM »
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  • Are these ten priests who spoke against Rome remaining within the Society and capitulating to Rome?

    Or are they upholding the true faith and leaving the Society?

     



    Lord have mercy.


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    Maybe Pope Frantic ought to just issue traffic tickets instead...
    « Reply #2 on: May 30, 2017, 12:11:22 PM »
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  • When it comes to law the English speaking world is about as clueless as it gets, even the prelates.
    Marriage is a contract between a man and a woman right?  With the view in mind to the rearing and educating of children in a permanent bond recognized by Christian society as such, right?  And that is how the Japanese Christians married those 150 years or so they did not have priests, right? So where is the Rocket Science?  Even if two people married contrary to the canons of the Council of Trent the marriage would still be valid, though illicit, right?  The Council of Trent could no more regulate the validity or invalidity of a marriage than it could make decrees on what constitutes catness and wolfness, right, as the Church has no power over the sacraments, as decreed by said council at Trent, or am I missing something here?  I do believe Our Lord Jesus Christ defined and instituted the sacrament of marriage and somehow the Church muddled along until 1234, when the first canons were promulgated.  I think we need to go back to the basics.  I think it was a grave mistake on the part of Pius X to promulgate a code of canon law.  Ever since then I have heard clueless people (Bishops included) cite canons and decretals ad nauseum ad nauseam.  If I were one of those SSPX "Catholics" who got their marriage "annulled" because Bishop Bubbles at the local dicastery said their union was invalid, I'd be trembling in my booties about now. The only excuse these people will have on judgment day is they were stupid as a bag of bricks, and that goes double for the prelates.  Rather than hearing more bleating excuses about how hopelessly confused moderns are so they cannot be held accountable for their actions, as though the Holy Ghost went on some sort of vacation about 1975, how about Bishop Williamson and his consecrated cohorts do some serious bishing, set up some serious seminaries and institutions, and give us some structure and center, rather than journeying hither and thither and yon in search of the straying sheep who should know better than to shack up with ravenous wolves and roaring lions.  If course, it was Screwtape who opined that human stupidity may have limits, but they have yet to be found....
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    Re: Eleison Comments - Defending Marriage (515)
    « Reply #3 on: May 30, 2017, 02:46:24 PM »
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  • Mr. Wolf!  My bag of bricks is scandalized!  :cussing: