Author Topic: Eleison Comments - Church Predictions (no. 510) (Read 1460 times)

Matthew · « **on:** April 22, 2017, 05:12:24 PM »

Number DX (510)

April 22, 2017

Church Predictions
All on the Church horizon is dark, dark.
But have no doubt – God will save Peter’s barque.
As might have been expected, there has been not a little reader reaction to the portrait of the “slowly declining” Society of St Pius X, as presented in two recent issues of these “Comments.” Reaction shows that not all Catholics are blind or unthinking. Here are two readers speculating, one on the Society’s near future, the second on the Church’s more distant future. Here is the first:—
“The destabilisation, confusion and softening of the minds of Society priests and laity will, alas, continue, and for many become even more painful, because the present leadership of the Society will persevere and continue straight on with the game it has set up with the Semiconservatives. Consecrating the bishops “urgently needed” (Bishop Tissier) will not be mentioned. And when the election of the Society’s top officials can no longer be avoided at the General Chapter normally due in July of 2018, the Society’s present leaders will do all in their power beforehand to make sure that their pursuit of recognition by Rome will continue uninterrupted.”
Depending on how many prayers are said for the rescue of the fortress of the true Faith built by Archbishop Lefebvre, Almighty God may intervene with a miracle to save it, but humanly speaking one would say that the rot is indeed too far gone for it to be saved. Thus the Society’s worldwide apostolate urgently needs some new and younger bishops, but how can they be chosen to serve the true anti-Conciliar Faith without alienating the Conciliar Romans who alone can give the Society the recognition so desperately pursued by Society HQ in Menzingen? Archbishop Lefebvre said in 1988 that that pursuit would be the Society’s “Operation ѕυιcιdє,” but since when have crusading liberals ever backed down? The crusade for their Brave nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr is their real religion, forget about Catholicism.
The second reader assumes that the Society’s ѕυιcιdє is a done deal, and he looks forward to the future of the Faith without the Society, more from a divine point of view.
“The silence coming from Econe concerning the ‘regularization’ at present is deafening. It would appear that the deal is, in actuality, a ‘fait accompli.’ In which case, may we now turn our attention to the long road of recovery and care that the Traditional Catholic Refugees will surely need. A restoration of order out of chaos and a life-raft to grasp, as the sinking ship of Rome sucks the weak in faith to the bottom of the sea. Is the Faith shrinking or just purging itself of those who have been unfaithful? God help us!”
When we think of the future of the Church today, let us bear in mind that the situation is so dramatic that “all bets are off,” meaning, nobody knows, because if the Society is indeed sinking which has acted as a buoy for the true Faith for 40 years, then what indeed still preve nts Conciliar Rome from sucking those weak in the faith down to the bottom of the sea? But God is God, and He can intervene at any moment and in a variety of ways to interrupt His Church’s headlong course to destruction. Nevertheless, this reader’s human pessimism does seem well justified right now.
Less easy to understand is his optimism for the future of a restoration of order and the launching of a life-raft, if the Popes stay Conciliar. For if there is any lesson to be drawn from the history of the “Resistance” since 2012, it is the extreme difficulty of founding a Catholic work without approval from what at least appears to be the official Church. Catholic Truth is immensely strong in itself, but without the backing and protection of Catholic Authority, which is Our Lord’s authority, Truth remains highly vulnerable. For instance, within a framework of authority a priest can easily submit to a proposition he disagrees with, but outside any such frame, he can e asily dispute the wisdom of the wisest of propositions.
Patience. The problem is insoluble. Let us pray, and wait for Almighty God to stun us all with His solution!
Kyrie eleison.

Barry · « **Reply #1 on:** April 23, 2017, 09:21:57 AM »

And I hope God does stun us. Probably the only statement of Francis I that I agree with is when he said that God was the God of surprises. Of course, I believe that in a Catholic sense - not new doctrine, or blasphemies or sowing of confusion or accepting sin. More in the sense of God raising up a St. Paul who had persecuted the Church, or a Fr. Ratisbonne who had been an atheistic anti-Catholic Jєω, or a Don Juan who hardly seemed the most Catholic of the Catholic princes at the time. Or a St. Joan of Arc - who had imagined an illiterate peasant 12-year old girl as God's answer to a problem that confounded the royalty, aristocracy, military, and hierarchy of France?

But we have to do our part and storm Heaven with prayers and sacrifices.

Speaking of St. Joan of Arc ...

Wessex · « **Reply #2 on:** April 24, 2017, 06:28:08 AM »

The bishop still asserts that the Society was at least uniquely recognised by the "official church" as grounds for its legitimacy. The truth is the archbishop found some conservative bishop on the verge of retirement to rubber-stamp his actions. At the time he was certainly acting against the spirit of the "official church" going through a process of theological and liturgical transition. I find there is no comfort to be derived from feeling so 'blessed' when other traditionalist apostolates had to organise their exile without authority from some half-hearted quarter of the mainstream church. Indeed, I find it a badge of honour that all ties be broken! Insisting on such dubious authority is wearing a bit thin.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #3 on:** April 24, 2017, 10:26:56 AM »

Wessex,
After 50 years of lies, destruction and heresy from the 'church leaders', in hindsight, yes, I agree that NOW it is preposterous to want any approval from Rome. If they approve of you, then you must have compromised your faith - just like them!

However, in the few decades after V2, when there were still many diocesan clerics who were still questioning the changes (yet did not have fortitudue to leave outright), it was only natural for the Archbishop to want 'approval' from the church, in the sense that he wanted a 'legal' way of keeping the faith, without resorting to use of the emergency canons. In other words, exhaust all methods to keep the boat from sinking, before you decide to jump ship. This is a natural human reaction and is also prudent, considering we have NO historical guidance on how to deal with an apostasized rome of this magnitude.

JPaul · « **Reply #4 on:** April 24, 2017, 08:53:12 PM »

Quote from: Wessex on April 24, 2017, 06:28:08 AM

"The bishop still asserts that the Society was at least uniquely recognised by the "official church" as grounds for its legitimacy. The truth is the archbishop found some conservative bishop on the verge of retirement to rubber-stamp his actions. At the time he was certainly acting against the spirit of the "official church" going through a process of theological and liturgical transition. I find there is no comfort to be derived from feeling so 'blessed' when other traditionalist apostolates had to organise their exile without authority from some half-hearted quarter of the mainstream church. Indeed, I find it a badge of honour that all ties be broken! Insisting on such dubious authority is wearing a bit thin. "

It was quite shopworn by the end of its first decade. What followed, an excercise in deception and self delusion.

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