Author Topic: Eleison Comments CDXXXVI (436) Nov. 22, 2015 A.D. (Read 21564 times)

covet truth · « **Reply #65 on:** November 23, 2015, 09:42:31 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn

To me, valid miracle or not, it likely means that particular NO service (and therefore many other NO services) are valid sacrileges which greatly offend God - perhaps so much so that He chose to show His pain and sorrow on this occasion. Why He chose to do this we will never know unless He reveals His reason.

Like you, I fear +Williamson will not leave it at that but will draw some theological conclusions from this which in some way, shape or form favors the NO, which I agree, is incredibly dangerous.

You get it! It only makes the NOM worse than if it was invalid. I have no fear that +Williamson will in any way endorse or take a position that favors the N.O. Chances are he will ask for our prayers and sacrifices in reparation for these grievous sins being committed every hour of every day around the world. We'll just have to wait and see what follows in Part II.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #66 on:** November 23, 2015, 09:44:25 AM »

Quote from: covet truth

I have no fear that +Williamson will in any way endorse or take a position that favors the N.O.

And where have you been? He's already condoned attending the NOM.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #67 on:** November 23, 2015, 09:46:00 AM »

Really the only proper Catholic attitude to take via-a-vis all these purported visions, apparitions, private revelations, and miracles is to utterly ignore them unless they are clearly endorsed by the authority of the Universal Church. There's much more risk of harm than of any good in entertaining and speculating about them.

OldMerry · « **Reply #68 on:** November 23, 2015, 09:49:46 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

Quote from: covet truth
I have no fear that +Williamson will in any way endorse or take a position that favors the N.O.

And where have you been? He's already condoned attending the NOM.

Shows Fr. Wathen for a good shepherd. He warned people about the Novus Ordo and stayed away from it himself. Also condemned the Indult/Motu Masses. Did not change his positions - knew the conspiracy in the Church and the tricks of the hierarchy.

covet truth · « **Reply #69 on:** November 23, 2015, 09:59:55 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

Quote from: covet truth
I have no fear that +Williamson will in any way endorse or take a position that favors the N.O.

And where have you been? He's already condoned attending the NOM.

I heard what he said as I was there. He was trying to help a lady understand, without condemning her in public, that she should be attending a traditional Mass.

For a few years I attended the NOM of an elderly retired Monsignor. There was never a doubt in my mind that his Mass was a valid one. I left because I did not want to bring up a child in that Mass. So, I completely understood the question this lady had and what the Bishop was telling her.