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Quote from: AJNC

I hope Bp Williamson looks at a video recently put out by the Schism House. It is titled: Magicians Prove A Spiritual World Exists

My husband and I just watched this over the past few days or so.  One of the things that stuck with me were the "magicians" that walked on water.

Not having watched it, I only comment that I doubt this is new to Bishop Williamson. I expect it must be covered in depth in the priestly formation and bolstered by years of experience in the spiritual trenches. What comes to mind for me is that C.S. Lewis touches on it in The Screwtape Letters. Though I haven't read anything else that I can remember treats the subject, I am sure the books must exist.

There are so many tricks magicians/illusionists use. Personally they all creep me out and I refuse to watch them. But I know that even "walking on water" can be accomplished with a simple glass platform right under the water. The real ones though, I believe they use the power of evil spirits, yes.

I would like to start by saying that I believe, the Mass of the ages (The Holy Tridentine Mass) is what God has given us and we should strive to preserve and pray for it’s complete restoration.

However, here are some questions I would like to ask:
---- With approx. 1.2 Billion Roman Catholics around the world, there are approx. 415K NO priests as compared to approx. 1K to 2K priests who say the Tridentine mass (including SSPX and others). If the same ratio is true with the faithful, we are left with approx. 0.25% to 0.5% Traditional Catholics…..Would Our Dear Father in Heaven have left His children ( remaining 99.5%) without a valid Mass for 46+ years, until they could stumble across a Traditional Mass?
---- There have been many Eucharistic miracles in the Novus Ordo..…why? .Could it be that Our Blessed Lord is trying to bolster the faith of an impoverished NO faithful that has been abandoned for the last 46 years and left with a ‘weakened’ doctrine and liturgy?
----Do we realize that thousands of Catholic are tortured and die for their Catholic faith in recent times in places like Algeria, India, Vietnam, Iraq, Colombia, Pakistan, Nigeria, Mexico, Egypt, Sudan, Liberia, China and Indonesia to name a few….. Aren’t most, if not all of them NO, who have received Our Lord in the Eucharist?  

I do agree the Novus Ordo Missae was forced upon the faithful against their will…however in his infinite Mercy, God would never abandon his NO faithful although it may often seem so to us mere mortals.
In the meantime, what would God want us to do? I believe those of us who have been given the grace to ‘understand’ , are duty bound to assist in the restoration of the Traditional Latin Mass, witness and spread the truth to our NO Bishops, priests and faithful. Also, by proclaiming our faith and doctrine with our non-Catholic neighbors.  This is often accomplished with a humble and charitable disposition towards our NO brethren.  

Quote from: Paul FHC

How do you think bishop Williamson is going to conclude this topic in the following EC? What was his purpose in pointing out the miracles  in the NO?

He already has concluded this.  His conclusion is simple:  The Novus Ordo is possibly licit and valid, as are the priests and bishops.  Only, it's hard to tell because the Novus Ordo has been compromised with Vatican II theology.

I have so many problems with this conclusion, from a logical standpoint, that I am really having a hard time with Bishop Williamson at this point.  However, it does explain to me how he can support Garabandal and the writings of Maria Valtorta.  

If I actually did believe that the NO was both valid and licit, I never would have left because that would have been true disobedience.  I just would have continued to stay and prayed for God to have mercy on me and my family for our obedience.  

I think part of the problem is +Williamson's R&R position. He knows he can't claim that a valid Pope promulgated an intrinsically evil rite of Mass (well, there is "no promulgation" argument, but even if Paul VI somehow did not formally promulgate Novus Ordo he most certainly did impose it materially upon the Church), thus he is forced to defend it to at least some degree.