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Eleison Comments by Mgr. Williamson 28 December 2013
« on: December 28, 2013, 01:15:09 PM »
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  • Number CCCXXXVII (337)   28 December 2013

    BILLOT II

    It is not only by the names of the seven Churches of Asia (cf. “Comments”# ) but also by the contents of the seven Letters addressed to them (Apoc. II and III) that Cardinal Billot establishes the connection between the Letters and seven main periods of Church history. Especially interesting in this respect is the Letter to the church of Sardis (Apoc. III, 1-6) which would correspond to our own Age, the fifth, the Age of Apostasy. After evoking the wealth, luxury and material prosperity associated with Croesus, famous ruler of Sardis, Billot writes:--

    “As one might expect, this church seems to be in a state of spiritual decline. Apostasy and falling away are on all sides, but while the majority of souls abandon religion, there are a few who remain faithful to Christ. The angel says, ‘Thou hast a few names in Sardis which have not defiled their garments.’ But: ‘Thou hast the name of being alive: and thou art dead !’ The name (but not the reality) of life, knowledge, freedom, civilization, progress; and thou art dead, sitting in darkness and the shadow of death, because the light of life, which is Our Lord Jesus Christ, has been rejected. Hence the bishop of Sardis is told, ‘Be watchful and strengthen the things that remain, which are ready to die.’ And he is above all recommended to cleave unfailingly to all the traditions of the holy Apostles, without in the least way departing from the meaning they held for the Church Fathers, with the excuse or under the appearance of a deeper understanding: ‘Have in mind therefore what thou hast received and heard: and observe, and do penance.’ So much for the Fifth Age. But what follows is a little morerejoicing.”And theCardinal goes on to the Sixth and Seventh Ages.

    Readers who have never read the first six verses of Apocalypse III in connection with our own times should be interested to do so. The connection is remarkable, and not co-incidental.

    It is remarkable because “Strengthen the things that remain, which are ready to die” corresponds exactly to the Counter-reformation saving Catholicism from Protestantism, to the anti-liberal Popes saving what remained of the Church from the French Revolution, to Archbishop Lefebvre (and others) rescuing Tradition from Vatican II, and now to a Resistance battling to save what can be saved from his Society collapsing into liberalism. Surely Catholics may take heart from this perspective, that their long and seemingly hopeless rearguard action comes from a distant past and does fit into an ultimately triumphant future. That is why we were given the book of the Apocalypse.

    Nor is the connection co-incidental. Our Lord promised his Apostles (Jn. XVI, 12-14) that his Spirit, the Holy Ghost, would be with them and with their successors down the ages to reveal to them what they would only then need to know. It was only when the Thirty Years War (1618-1648) was ravaging Germany that the Venerable Holzhauser was given his understanding of the Seven Ages hidden within the Letters to the seven churches of Asia. Similarly it was only when the Russian Revolution was just about to break out that we needed Our Lady to assure us at Fatima that in the end her Immaculate Heart would triumph. True, the Church is right now being eclipsed (see on the Internet the film-clips of the public Mass celebrated recently in Brazil by the churchman in white), but there is still no need or justification for us to become liberals.

    Kyrie eleison.


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    Eleison Comments by Mgr. Williamson 28 December 2013
    « Reply #1 on: December 28, 2013, 05:28:09 PM »
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  • Fr. Ceriani gave an interesting reply to this.

    BISHOP WILLIAMSON PERSEVERE ...

    The Latin phrase err est autem endure diabolicuм translated means "making mistakes is human, but to persevere in error is diabolical."

    The phrase has entered the language as a common aphorism with which it seeks to mitigate an error while it is sporadic and not repeated.

    A few days ago, analyzing the Comment Eleison 336 Williamson wrote (now underlined in red a few sentences):



    Williamson says in his Commentary Eleison 336, last Saturday 21 December:

    For years I've been giving a lecture on the Seven Church Ages, based on the book of Revelation Commentary by Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser. German priest in the first half of the 1600s, he said he was inspired to write. The conference has been popular, especially because it fits the madness of our age in a harmonious pattern of the whole history of the Church.

    Indeed, the conference provided the September 17, 2004 in Buenos Aires, Williamson said:

    The idea of these seven periods is a German of the first half of the seventeenth century, Venerable Holzhauser Barthelemy. For the Church is not yet a saint, but he was a very good, very holy priest.

    (...) I was convinced that I wrote this' under inspiration. He said: "They are not my ideas, I get these ideas." Of course this does not mean to say I was truly inspired, but when you get to chapter 15, verse 4, stopped writing, saying, "I have no more inspiration."

    However, a week later, in his Commentary Eleison 337 Williamson perseveres:

    It was only when the Thirty Years War (1618-1648) it was estragando Germany, which is the Venerable Holzhauser was given the understanding of the Seven Ages hidden within the letters to the seven churches of Asia.

    Recall that, in turn, Holzhauser, in his interpretation of Revelation (3rd ed, vol II, p 120, Paris, 1872, Library Luis Vives..), Wrote the following lines:

    "In the middle of the year of Christ 1855, in the nineteenth century, the Antichrist will be born and live fifty five and a half years. And in the last three years of his life and for the last six months, that is, for three and a half years he discharged the greater fury against Christianity, and, according to his false antipope prophet exterminate the Church scatter the flock of Christ Jesus, overpower and kill all the faithful by the power that will have been given for forty-two months on every tribe, especially village, every tongue and every nation, to make war against the Saints God and to defeat them during the time he will sit in the prime of his reign. And so, in 1911, the son of perdition will be killed in the middle of the fifty-sixth year of his life by the breath, that is the word coming out of the mouth of Jesus of Nazareth crucified. "

    We know that Pope Leo X, in its Constitution supernae Majestatis PRAESIDIO, at the 11th session of the Lateran Council of 1516 forbade, under pain of excommunication, attempting to give a fixed for the coming of Antichrist and doomsday date:

    "We call on all who bear the burden of preaching or the exercise in the future that do not presume to set in his preaching or his statements a given for future evils time, either for the arrival of the Antichrist, is for Judgment: whereas Truth said, "not for you to know the times or moments which the Father has fixed by his own authority." So far those who have dared make such things, lied, and it turned out that, by his deed, much damage has been brought against the authority of those who preach wisely. "

    First half of the seventeenth century: A mid-year of Christ 1855, in the nineteenth century, the Antichrist will be born and live fifty five and a half years.

    September 17, 2004: this does not mean it was truly inspirational.

    December 21, 2013: he said he was inspired to write.

    December 28, 2013: he was given the understanding of the Seven Ages.

    Leaving aside the distances (it is clearly more serious things that deserve excommunication ...), remember that this second intention Last Crusade Rosaries of the Neo-SSPX ...

    How long will persevere Williamson in his diabolical error?

    radiocristiandad.wordpress.com/2013/12/28/p-ceriani-monsenor-williamson-persevera/
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    Eleison Comments by Mgr. Williamson 28 December 2013
    « Reply #2 on: December 30, 2013, 12:49:32 AM »
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    Does anyone have links for this?

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    True, the Church is right now being eclipsed (see on the Internet the film-clips of the public Mass celebrated recently in Brazil by the churchman in white), but there is still no need or justification for us to become liberals.



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    Eleison Comments by Mgr. Williamson 28 December 2013
    « Reply #3 on: December 30, 2013, 03:18:08 PM »
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    Does anyone have links for this?

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    True, the Church is right now being eclipsed (see on the Internet the film-clips of the public Mass celebrated recently in Brazil by the churchman in white), but there is still no need or justification for us to become liberals.



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    I live in Brasil. It is one of the countries with the worse cases of liturgical abuses. Clown masses, African tribal masses, peasant masses, bread-basket masses, Liberation theology masses, speaking in tongues masses, Freemason masses, the list goes on and on. I participate in a few social media groups Acorda CNBB= wake up the Brazilian National Conference of bishops, which cover the liturgical abuses widespread here in Brazil. I haven't a clue what Mons. Williamson is talking about. He was not very specific at all. Perhaps no one covered it or I just simply have not found out yet.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...