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Offline Neil Obstat

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Visit to the Bishop
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2013, 11:47:14 AM »
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    Yes.  We are seeing the downfall of a good bishop, and
    it's sad to see.

    This is a real tragedy.  He confirmed all of my children.  
    And now this.    ¡Ay caramba!

    Quote from: John Grace
    It's tragic to see Bishop Tissier going soft. He has often preached  against heresy but now is silent when it comes to heresy. He, like Fr Morgan is putting the SSPX before the faith and truth. We cannot depend on either Bishop Tissier or Fr Morgan..



    When I heard his sermon at the confirmations in 2006, I recall that
    he had a few very strong statements, and at the time, I had wished
    that there had been a lot more of those strong words.  Due to the
    lack of the rest of them it seemed to fall a bit short.  But I didn't want
    to believe that was the case.  I recall saying to people that I wanted
    to hear more and that H.E. had left us not quite filled up, and they
    assured me I was imagining things, and that I shouldn't be so critical.

    But when I heard +Williamson give a confirmation sermon just a few
    years before, in 1999, I was filled to overflowing.  You could say that
    had been a tough act to follow.  At the time, I wrote it off to the
    language barrier, and figured that +W's words hit me harder because
    his English is my English.  And +TdM's accent and sentence structure
    had to be mentally filtered to imagine what he was actually trying to
    say.  But now I see, it was more than that.


    Quote from: John Grace
    ..It would  be fantastic if Fr Hewko was consecrated a Bishop. He is a fighter unlike both Bishop Tissier or Fr Morgan.



    Yes, I don't see in Fr. Hewko any of the weaknesses that I thought I
    saw in +TdM.  I don't find myself questioning anything and so I don't
    hear anyone telling me that I'm just imagining things.  I saw +TdM
    holding back, not saying things he was obviously capable of saying.  
    I wanted to hear A, B and C and all I got was A, and maybe B.

    But with +W and Fr. Hewko, what I get is MORE than I bargained for.
    They never leave me short changed.  When I come expecting A, B
    and C, they give me A, B, C, D, E and F, too.


    Quote from: Zeitun
    Those that believe that the SSPX IS the Catholic Church also believe it must be preserved at all costs.  Even if their faith changes or is lost.



    I have seen this.  I recall hearing someone react to my friend who
    said (10 yrs ago) "There is no salvation outside the SSPX," by warning
    him that if +W heard him say that, he would excommunicate him.  But
    I don't hear these things anymore.  

    What I hear is, "The SSPX priests are all good priests and they won't
    let anything bad happen to the Society."  And, when I raise questions
    like with the AFD and the SARD, they say that I'm not being charitable,
    and that I'm not obedient, and that I'm showing a lot of pride to
    criticize the Superior General.  

    The content of laity conversations has changed in 10 years.

    I'm going to remember this, Zeitun, so that I can ask them:




    Do you believe that the SSPX IS the Catholic Church?  

    Do you believe that it MUST be preserved at ALL costs?  

    What if your faith changes while the SSPX changes?

    Or, what if you lose your faith trying to keep up with Bishop Fellay?




    It would do them good to hear these questions from me,
    because I don't think they're going to hear these questions
    from their ExSPX chapel pulpit on Sunday.   No way!  

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    « Reply #16 on: July 25, 2013, 12:21:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    I'm going to remember this, Zeitun, so that I can ask them:


    Do you believe that the SSPX IS the Catholic Church?  

    Do you believe that it MUST be preserved at ALL costs?  

    What if your faith changes while the SSPX changes?

    Or, what if you lose your faith trying to keep up with Bishop Fellay?


    It would do them good to hear these questions from me,
    because I don't think they're going to hear these questions
    from their ExSPX chapel pulpit on Sunday.   No way!  



    Not sure they're dumb enough to verbalize their belief that the SSPX IS the Church.  Mind you these same koolaid guzzlers will say "The new mass was legally promulgated" and "You cannot say the Pope is a manifest heretic" but will they assist at a NO mass or kiss a Koran?  

    Believe nothing they say and only half of what they do. :soapbox:


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    « Reply #17 on: July 25, 2013, 01:45:19 PM »
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    Yes, I don't see in Fr. Hewko any of the weaknesses that I thought I
    saw in +TdM.


    When I met Fr Hewko in England, he stated he had prayed at the grave of Fr Denis Fahey in Dublin so for that alone he gets 10/10. Bishop Tissier regards Fr Fahey as a hero so I would disagree with the comment about Bishop Tissier being a traitor. He just is not a fighter. I only met Bishop Tissier briefly and I don't believe he would say  the Novus Ordo or go modern but like Fr Morgan, they have weakened and are perhaps brow beaten.

    The battle takes alot out of people. At the moment I am trying to do the work of ten people. People are rather upset over this abortion legislation in Ireland and I am trying to prevent people from giving up the fight when they are needed most.