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Offline Nemmersdorf

Re: Eleison Comments - Brexit Diagnosed 1 (no. 616)
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2019, 02:58:16 PM »
Errata:
NWO instead of NOW, sorry for the mistake.

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Offline hollingsworth

Re: Eleison Comments - Brexit Diagnosed 1 (no. 616)
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2019, 03:17:05 PM »
Claudel:

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If this is the same gentleman who comments elsewhere as Karl Nemmersdorf, my suspicion is that the reproduction here of the long, abusive article by an (((Establishment))) shill, a man clearly contemptuous of all the "deluded little people," is to show the falsity and deceitful transparency of the anti-Brexit arguments.

Do you mean ‘pro-Brexit arguments?’ Sorry, but I’m a bit confused.

As for Brexit and the article reprinted by Nemmersdorf. I can not really argue intelligently on either side of the issue. Too beyond my ken. Nemm says I need to read the article more carefully. Perhaps so.
One thing seems pretty clear: Nemmersdorf would take issue with Bp. Williamson and with the leader of the new Brexit party, Nigel Farage. Does Nemm question the underlying motives of Farage? Does he/she number the Brexit leader among the billionaires he is exposing?

 
Maybe Nemm feels that H.E. just doesn’t have it straight. He’s drunk the Brexit kool-aid. He’s bought the Brexit argument hook line and sinker. Because I doubt that Williamson would knowingly and consciously make common cause with the elite whom Pettersen excoriates. And we can pretty well be assured that the good bishop is not trying to protect his own tax shelters and investments.

 
About Nemmendorf: Well, what about it? Are you this fellow Karl Nemmersdorf, a person I’ve never heard of, btw. And is Pettersen one of the chosen?
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Offline claudel

Re: Eleison Comments - Brexit Diagnosed 1 (no. 616)
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2019, 03:46:20 PM »
Dear Holly,

No, I meant anti-Brexit. That is to say, as the anti-Brexit case made by the Pettersen article is so fundamentally deceitful and manipulative, I thought it likely that Nemmersdorf was offering it to us here in a facetious or sarcastic vein. On the basis of his reply to you, however, I take it that I was mistaken. That is, Nemmersdorf agrees with the article and has offered it to persuade us. Amazing, n'est-ce pas?

Is it likely that many malefactors of great wealth will profit from Brexit—if it is ever implemented, that is? Of course! Why would any adult assume otherwise? But advancing this obvious observation as somehow genuinely informative conveniently overlooks the fact that the truly criminal rich, of whom either a majority or a large plurality are Jews, have made and will continue to make untold millions more through their connection with the EU, which is nothing less than the kindlier-faced successor to the Soviet Communist (i.e., Jєωιѕн) slave state.

Besides, even if the EU were as beneficial to the little guy and as invidious to the evil rich guy as Petterson and Nemmersdorf falsely claim, we all would be obliged to oppose it anyway because of its outright rejection both of the foundational significance of Christianity to Europe's past and of the Cross as an essential component of present and future European society and governance.

Have I sufficiently clarified what I was saying?
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Offline Nemmersdorf

Re: Eleison Comments - Brexit Diagnosed 1 (no. 616)
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2019, 04:36:22 AM »
https://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2019/2/3/israel-uk-and-brexit
Israel, UK and Brexit
 
Introduction by GA: The following is a translation of the last segment of an article in Ynet  yesterday on Brexit. The article explains that: the Jєωιѕн State has located itself as post Brexit Britain’s gateway to the world: “Once out of the EU, Britain will have to sign separate trade agreements with each state, and Israel will be the first.” And that: “Israel has become Britain’s strategic ally.” And, of course, “the British government totally disregard the boycott campaign against Israel. On a political level, they boycotted the boycott.” 
 
A few years ago we learned that back in 1982 Oded Yinon devised an Israeli ‘plan for the Middle East.’ The following Ynet’s segment provides us with a glimpse into the current ‘Israel’s plan for Britain.’
 
If you have been puzzled by the insane institutional campaign against Corbyn  (BOD, Jєωιѕн Chronicle, CAA, etc.) the Ynet article raises the possibility that the campaign has not actually been about ‘antisemitism.’ It is more likely about shekles: Corbyn in Number Ten could easily interfere with ‘Israel’s plans for Britain.’ The Ynet article may also help Brits to understand the bipartisan forces that operate intensively to push Britain to break away from the EU. For some reason some of the staunch Israel supporters within the Government and in the Parliament are also pushing hard for Brexit. Ask yourself, do they do it for Britain, Brits and British national interests or are they, once again, serving the interests of that dark and oppressive foreign state.   
 
The Brexit Hurricane
 “…It turns out that on some fronts the British began to prepare in advance. When it decided to withdraw from the European Union, Britain was even more enthusiastic about reaching agreements to sign bilateral trade agreements, this time not through the EU, but with countries around the world. The Brits saw the signing of these trade agreements as evidence of Britain's steadfastness. Time and time again, British leaders, headed by Teresa May, said that "Britain can maximise its business and commercial potential beyond the EU as well." Israel was one of the first stations in that campaign. Once out of the EU, Britain will have to sign such agreements with each state, and Israel will be the first.
 
 In recent years, Israel has become Britain’s strategic ally. Innovation, technological, intelligence and cyber capabilities have made Israel one of the most popular potential partners in Britain. The volume of trade between the two countries rose to a record $ 11 billion last year, of which $ 5 billion was Israeli exports to Britain, and the rest was British imports to Israel. After the United States, Britain is the largest exporter to Israel, and trade relations span a wide range of fields - energy, pharmaceuticals, food and technology - and the British government's total disregard of the boycott organizations against Israel. On the political level, they boycotted the boycott.
 
 In the past year, teams of British and Israeli economic ministries have gathered to discuss bilateral trade agreements. They had to draft new agreements, since the current trade agreements between the two countries were within the framework of the European Union. Ohad Cohen, head of the Foreign Trade Department in the Ministry of Economics, who was in charge of the talks on the Israeli side, said that the British had entered talks with a simple task: to continue without unnecessary shocks, to repeat most of the clauses in the agreement that Israel signed with the EU in 1995.
 
 "They came and said, 'Whatever was, will be,'" Cohen said. "In other words, they wanted Israel to continue to trade with Britain on the same terms, with full customs exemptions, and to make very small changes to existing agreements, especially in quantities. Britain has named Israel as one of the first countries with which it wants to sign a bilateral agreement, and it is important for the British government to ensure that the commercial ties between the two countries are not harmed."
 
 According to Cohen, the negotiations were oblivious to the many changes that have stirred the British political system in the past year. The British did not arrive with any panic for the negotiations with Israel, not even when ministers resigned one by one and Theresa May's government was crushed under the wheels of Brexit. "The only difference is that they were required to set up a unit that deals with trade agreements, which they did not have before, because before everything went through the EU institutions in Brussels," says Cohen.
 
 Thus, in the coming month a trade agreement between the two countries is supposed to be signed. After Israel, Britain expects  to sign trade agreements with some 70 other countries, including its closest ally, the US. The agreement with the Americans is very important, because for a Brexit government this is a prestigious card and a proof that Britain can stand on its feet even outside the European Union…”
 
My battle for truth and freedom involves  some expensive legal services. I hope that you will consider committing to a monthly donation in whatever amount you can give. Regular contributions will enable me to avoid being pushed against a wall and to stay on top of the endless harassment by Zionist operators attempting to silence me.
Gilad
 
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?author=109
Gilad Atzmon, a former Israeli soldier now a writer and an award winning Jazz musician resident in London, where he lives in virtual exile
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Offline claudel

Re: Eleison Comments - Brexit Diagnosed 1 (no. 616)
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2019, 04:40:11 PM »
Quote from: Nemmersdorf on May 14, 2019, 04:36:22 AM
Blah, blah, blah …
Two can play the linking game. Unlike Nemmersdorf, however, I don't need to pound the table with huge boldface type as a substitute for facts.

Here is a link to a close and careful analysis of who truly profits from staying in the EU and undermining the popular (i.e., Christian) will to get out of it forever.
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