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Re: Eleison Comments - Against Sedevacantism (no. 911)
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2024, 02:57:18 PM »
IMO PopePius XI was validly nominated and elected.  Then he went wrong in his pontificate.  He did not consecrate Russia, Our Lady was known to have said this, after the vision Lucia was told that the hour was then to consecrate Russia, 1927-29 about, after the vision of Tuy.  Our Lady was known to say to Lucia, "The pope did not heed the request, request of GOD!  Therefore She said, he (pope) will be like King Louis XIV.  The King refused to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart, he was dethroned and beheaded.  Hm?  Pope Pius XI lost his authority and the result was the Church without a head.  IMO this could have been the time for the 100 years permitted to Satan.

Cardinal Manning wrote on that a pope can lose authority, can go wrong in their pontificate.

Re: Eleison Comments - Against Sedevacantism (no. 911)
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2024, 04:04:46 PM »
I keep forgetting only sedes go to Heaven.
 

Thank you Johannes for illuminating us little people who belong to a false religion. I am truly blessed for your wisdom and of course your humility,  God does really need you to spread His truth.    

First, as St Augustine observes, The prophets spoke more plainly and openly of the church than of Christ, foreseeing that on this a much greater number may err and be deceived than on the mystery of the Incarnation. For in after ages there would not be wanting wicked men who, like an ape would fain to pass for a man, would claim that THEY ALONE WERE CATHOLICS, AND WITH NO LESS IMPIETY THAN EFFRONTERY ASSERT THAT WITH THEM ALONE IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

Trent!

Does this sound like Johannes?


Offline Twice dyed

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Pope under the power of devil
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2024, 04:43:29 PM »

Quote:
....can anyone confirm this? Padre Pio said " In a short while, The pope will be in complete control of the devil and he will rule a false church.  I thought I read this somewhere....

This is not Padre Pio  but good stuff.  ChatGPI or something. 
..


The other article mentioned that in mid 1960's, Padre Pio would have told Karol Wojtila   in Poland , that he would become pope. 
Is satan at work???!
!!:incense:

Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Eleison Comments - Against Sedevacantism (no. 911)
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2024, 05:24:37 PM »
“Sede-vacantism” is a magical, talismanic word not unlike “anti-semitism”.

For you see, the deadliest modern sin is to believe the Church was infiltrated & hijacked by ʝʊdɛօ-masons who implemented an internal schism against Roman Catholicism.

This is why the SSPX’s duplicitous philosophy of “Recognize & Resist” has de-masculinated a good portion of remnant Catholics.

And if you pay close attention to the “funded” trad Marrano media, you’ll understand that they are also attacking the sedes.

Why?  Because ultimately, discounting the post 1958 fake popes and refusing to dialogue with the schism is “end game” for them.

“Them” is the controlled opposition, just another tentacle of the Revolution.
As something of a sede myself I think there is a much bigger issue than the Pope question, and that is the dogma of EENS being repeatedly denied by all trad groups 'officially'. (By 'group' I am only counting those with Priests/Bishops)

The sede groups deny Vatican 2, but at the same time accept a docuмent that vatican 2 uses to teach salvation outside the Church because that same docuмent was used against Fr Feeney. 

The SSPX is more CONSISTENT in this manner. Because they accept vatican 2.

Somehow non-Catholics can actually be members of the Church without being members of the Body of Christ and can be saved outside the Church in some "exceptions". This is why 'Pope Francis' believes that all paths lead to God, he is simply being consistent with vatican 2. 

Consistency is very important, it's why the SSPX's position on the new rites bothers me. If the Anglican rite and the Novus Ordo rite of ordination have the same problems, yet the Church already decreed the Anglican rite utterly null and void, then we should hold the Novus Ordo rite to the same standard.


A deceitful balance is an abomination before the Lord: and a just weight is his will.
[Proverbs 11:1]

Weight and balance are judgments of the Lord: and his work all the weights of the bag.
[Proverbs 16:11]

Diverse weights and diverse measures, both are abominable before God.
[Proverbs 20:10]

Diverse weights are an abomination before the Lord: a deceitful balance is not good.
[Proverbs 20:23]

Ultimately I cannot say that I have the same faith as the person who is supposed to be the Pope, this is a problem.

If he is in heresy, schism or apostasy then he would be automatically outside the Church as per Pope Pius 12th.
Did he not also make heretical statements in his works before he became 'Pope', same as Ratzinger?
If he doesn't have the Catholic faith how is he a member of the Church?
If he isn't Catholic then how can he be the Pope?
Can someone who isn't even a priest let alone a bishop be the Pope?

Offline Meg

Re: Eleison Comments - Against Sedevacantism (no. 911)
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2024, 11:21:07 PM »
I keep forgetting only sedes go to Heaven.
 

Thank you Johannes for illuminating us little people who belong to a false religion. I am truly blessed for your wisdom and of course your humility,  God does really need you to spread His truth.   

First, as St Augustine observes, The prophets spoke more plainly and openly of the church than of Christ, foreseeing that on this a much greater number may err and be deceived than on the mystery of the Incarnation. For in after ages there would not be wanting wicked men who, like an ape would fain to pass for a man, would claim that THEY ALONE WERE CATHOLICS, AND WITH NO LESS IMPIETY THAN EFFRONTERY ASSERT THAT WITH THEM ALONE IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

Trent!

Does this sound like Johannes?

It does sound like Johannes. Well said.