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Offline klasG4e

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« on: September 11, 2016, 03:00:01 PM »
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  • Way to go Bishop!  Great EC!
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    Islam’s Origins


    Who profits by promoting Our Lord’s foes?
    Those who serve God by scourging us with woes.

    In recommending to readers “Plot Against the Church” by Maurice Pinay, a book which proves with a wealth of docuмents that the main external enemy of the Catholic Church for 2,000 years has been the Jєωs, these “Comments” stated that Jєωs were behind Islam, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and Communism. No readers contested that they were behind Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and Communism, but a few asked what shows that they were also behind Islam. Indeed since Islam arose in the seventh century after Christ there is for Islam nothing like the docuмentation that exists for the modern roots of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and Communism. In fact experts on Islam will say that even many original docuмents on the beginning of Islam may have been destroyed, precisely to cover up its true origins. We are left with the text of the Koran itself and historical arguments to point to Jєωs as the originators of Islam.

    As for the text of the Koran, one who studied it closely before the Council, Hanna Zakarias, came to the conclusion in his book “True Mohammed, False Koran” that it was entirely the work of a Jєωιѕн Rabbi. To support his thesis that Islam is simply Judaism explained to Arabs by a Rabbi to convert them to the one true God of the Old Testament, Zakarias maintains that there is no story, no detail in the Koran that is not specifically Jєωιѕн, referring to the Old Testament, the тαℓмυd or other Jєωιѕн literature. Only a Jєω, he argues, could so glorify Israel as the Koran does, at the head of the nations, sole receiver of the one Revelation of the one true God. Thus passages in the Koran honouring for instance John the Baptist and the Blessed Virgin honour them purely as Jєωs, cutting out all connection to Christianity (Sourat XIX, 1–21). As for Jesus, he may have been the son of Mary, but he was certainly not the Son of God.

    On the contrary a post-conciliar student of Islam, Laurent Lagartempe, states in his book “Origins of Islam” that t here are many questions as to the historical person of Mohammed, and he argues that the Koran is a medley of disparate texts, more or less stabilized only two centuries after the beginning of Islam, to justify the new religion, and to act as its holy text to rival with the Old and New Testaments of Moses and Jesus Christ respectively. But Lagartempe does not contest a significant presence of Judaism in the Koran, nor its influence.

    As for the historical arguments for Jєωs being behind Islam, Pinay’s book docuмents the well-known part played by Jєωs in helping the Arabs to conquer Catholic Spain between 711 and 788, reconquered by the Catholics only in 1492. Lagartempe reasonably supposes that the preceding Arab conquest of North Africa from 647 to 710 was also helped by the Jєωs, because those countries south of the Mediterranean, once a thriving part of Christendom, have ever since remained mostly under Arab control.

    However, perhaps the main argument for Jєωs being beh ind Islam is of a more general order, and hardly disputable, resting on the quite special role played in history by the people of the Messiah, Our Lord Jesus Christ. To begin with, the training of the Israelites for that role by God himself stretched over 2,000 years from Abraham to Christ. See in the Old Testament how specially God both rewarded and punished them, to form them as the cradle of the Messiah to come. This formation gave to the Jєωs a quite special familiarity with the one true God, and they have never entirely lost it ever since. And that familiarity gives them a special ability to fabricate substitute religions that seem to satisfy men’s real religious needs.

    Alas, they refused their Messiah when he came, and that refusal gives them a special motivation to fabricate false religions to pull human beings away from Christ and away from eternal salvation. Here is why Maurice Pinay can show how they have fought down all the centuries against the Catholi c Church . Today they are indisputably behind the Muslim invasion of the once Catholic nations of Europe, to dissolve the last remnants of the Faith, and so stop those nations from opposing their nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.

    Kyrie eleison.


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    « Reply #1 on: September 11, 2016, 04:43:39 PM »
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    Alas, they refused their Messiah when he came, and that refusal gives them a special motivation to fabricate false religions to pull human beings away from Christ and away from eternal salvation. Here is why Maurice Pinay can show how they have fought down all the centuries against the Catholi c Church . Today they are indisputably behind the Muslim invasion of the once Catholic nations of Europe, to dissolve the last remnants of the Faith, and so stop those nations from opposing their nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.


    This is more like it.  This is vintage Williamson. This is the Williamson whom Fellay & Co. agreed finallywas too hot to handle.  So Those Jєω-influenced churls had to expel him.  

    Say, those of you who keep your finger on the checker piece, and continue to attend SSPX Mass centers, do you ever hear this kind of straight talk coming out of the mouths of that new brand of priests, who currently occupy the pulpits of SSPX chapels?  I think not.


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    « Reply #2 on: September 11, 2016, 04:52:26 PM »
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    « Reply #3 on: September 11, 2016, 05:59:25 PM »
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    Zakarias maintains that there is no story, no detail in the Koran that is not specifically Jєωιѕн, referring to the Old Testament, the тαℓмυd or other Jєωιѕн literature. Only a Jєω, he argues, could so glorify Israel as the Koran does, at the head of the nations, sole receiver of the one Revelation of the one true God.

    ...Alas, they refused their Messiah when he came, and that refusal gives them a special motivation to fabricate false religions to pull human beings away from Christ and away from eternal salvation. Here is why Maurice Pinay can show how they have fought down all the centuries against the Catholic Church. Today they are indisputably behind the Muslim invasion of the once Catholic nations of Europe, to dissolve the last remnants of the Faith, and so stop those nations from opposing their nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.


    So the Koran can be seen as a Jєω's attempt to undo the work of St. Paul, evangelist to the gentiles.  

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    « Reply #5 on: September 13, 2016, 03:35:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mark 79
    RESOURCES:
    http://judaism.is/resources.html


    Mark79, you should add that Iraqi intel brief to your Judaism page. It's a good one.

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    « Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 05:02:54 PM »
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    Aye matey... this be all the evidence we need!


                                           Saint Pope Pius V


    The affirmation that Judaism was the source of all heresies was made by St. Pius V in his Decree of February 26, 1569. Here are the words of his text:


    We know that this most perverse people have always been the cause and seed-bag of almost all the heresies.


    And after you read the тαℓмυd, you'll see their other heresies, even hinduism are spread. world-wide.  While depressing, it is nonetheless amazing!

    The Jєωsih Religion: It's Influence Today

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 06:55:43 PM »
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    “We know that this most perverse people have always been the cause and seed-bag of almost all the heresies.” (Pius V)



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    The Jєωs are "our elder brothers" in the sense that we have something in common, that is, the old Covenant (Bp. Fellay)



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    "In his address during his historic visit to the Great ѕуηαgσgυє of Rome, Pope John Paul II said, “…the Church of Christ discovers her ‘bond’ with Judaism by ‘searching into her own mystery.’ The Jєωιѕн religion is not ‘extrinsic’ to us, but in a certain way is ‘intrinsic’ to our own religion. With Judaism, therefore, we have a relationship which we do not have with any other religion. You are our dearly beloved brothers and, in a certain way, it could be said that you are our elder brothers.” ( JPII Spiritual Pilgrimage, page 63).
     

     

    The Jєωs, apparently, have made quite come back in 450 years.