Author Topic: Eleison comments 380 October 25, 2014 (Read 40646 times)

Elizabeth · « **Reply #215 on:** October 31, 2014, 02:03:48 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

.....I guess by appearing in person it will be easier to win them over?

That's how I was won over in the past, different situation, different "messenger" but the dynamic of taking advantage of the confusion and mobility was very effective.

:cry:

Matthew · « **Reply #216 on:** October 31, 2014, 02:05:47 PM »

Quote from: holmoak

Quote from: Matthew
I have been informed that Dawn Marie (A____a A______n) is visiting Boston, KY tomorrow with the aim of convincing Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko that her visions are genuine.

I guess by appearing in person it will be easier to win them over?

Kyrie Eleison indeed.

It's today, meeting going on right now.

On Halloween. The pagan high holy day. Great.

The day the Irish used to bang on pots & pans to show the damned they haven't been forgotten, so they won't cause any mischief. (All Saints Day honors those in Heaven, and All Souls Day honors those in Purgatory...)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #217 on:** October 31, 2014, 02:25:57 PM »

So what exactly does Dawn Marie hope to gain from this besides publicity?

Is Bishop Williamson going to launch a Rosary Crusade among Resistance followers? What would you get, about 300 Rosaries in a year?

Ladislaus · « **Reply #218 on:** October 31, 2014, 02:31:28 PM »

Quote from: Militia Jesu

A couple of priests from Europe/South America --very friends of him-- think this is just a sort of veiled revenge against bishop Fellay. IMO that is a good guess, especially if one considers the opportunistic "visionary" knew exactly how to take advantage of all this.

Yep, that's how I read it. Bishop Williamson is simply using the vision narrative to bolster the position of the Resistance, to allege that the SSPX fell apart when Bishop Fellay refused to comply with Our Lady's demand because +Fellay felt that he had a better solution to the problem ... exactly as some of the pre-Vatican II popes did. Recall how in Part I Bishop Williamson explicitly cited a reference from the "Whole Truth About Fatima" along those lines. So, since the vision seems to impugn Bishop Fellay, hey, why not? It doesn't take a genius to draw the parallels.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #219 on:** October 31, 2014, 02:37:32 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

That's how it's been done in the past, throughout the history of the Catholic Church. No one has ever been censured for not believing in an apparition at first. Does anyone fault the local Bishop who didn't believe in Our Lady of Guadalupe at first? Of course not. His Church-ordered skepticism is why we have the beautiful miracle of the tilma and the roses.

Agreed. I wrote the same thing quite a few pages ago in this thread.