Author Topic: Eleison comments 380 October 25, 2014 (Read 42132 times)

holmoak · « **Reply #25 on:** October 25, 2014, 10:57:14 PM »

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The seer wasn't privy to +Fellay's fiscal arrangements when the ~~delusions~~ visions began.

Or should I continue to say Secret Seer, or will that tidbit get published in part III?

Or perhaps part IV or V?

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #26 on:** October 26, 2014, 01:14:01 AM »

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Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora
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Bishop Williamson must be short of things to do...

And that is the curious thing (because he shouldn't be): These "revelations" speak of an English prelate who is unknown and without power who will bring these messages to fulfillment. Yet, if +W is this "prelate" why does he always refuse the mantle of leading the resistance ?

Where did you get this information? As far as I know there is nothing of the sort in the messages. Can you provide your source? Or are you making it up for some reason? Please explain.

Don't you know by now I don't make things up ? I quote sources and prove them - the way of the church herself in her dogma manuals etc. It was in the other thread on part 1 of these messages - I'm too exhausted to carry on tonight so you can read it for yourself at a source it was read and approved by Bishop Williamson himself.

I can't find that ("English prelate who is unknown and without power who will bring these messages to fulfillment.") anywhere in the link curioustrad provided.

pbax · « **Reply #27 on:** October 26, 2014, 02:27:32 AM »

Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant

Quote from: curioustrad
Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora
Quote from: curioustrad
Quote from: bernadette
Bishop Williamson must be short of things to do...

And that is the curious thing (because he shouldn't be): These "revelations" speak of an English prelate who is unknown and without power who will bring these messages to fulfillment. Yet, if +W is this "prelate" why does he always refuse the mantle of leading the resistance ?

Where did you get this information? As far as I know there is nothing of the sort in the messages. Can you provide your source? Or are you making it up for some reason? Please explain.

Don't you know by now I don't make things up ? I quote sources and prove them - the way of the church herself in her dogma manuals etc. It was in the other thread on part 1 of these messages - I'm too exhausted to carry on tonight so you can read it for yourself at a source it was read and approved by Bishop Williamson himself.

I can't find that ("English prelate who is unknown and without power who will bring these messages to fulfillment.") anywhere in the link curioustrad provided.

I cannot find it either, maybe I am exhausted as well just like Curious I just don't no how that boy manages to responsed to all these blogs and fits his prayers and duty of state in.

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #28 on:** October 26, 2014, 05:35:29 AM »

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The best-laid plans of mice and men
Gang aft agley,
And leave us naught but grief and pain.
For promised joy.

From:
'To a Mouse'
On turning her up in her nest with the plough, November 1785.

Robert Burns is apologising to the mouse for destroying her nest and lamenting her fate, given that she won't have time to build another one before winter comes.

Hardly a dire fate for the mouse, she headed indoors to p** in his spare boots - where she set up houskeeping anew.
Heyyyy! Do ya think His Excellency is trying to say something that he's not saying? Nah, couldn't be.

Not sure about His Excellency, but Mr Burns is trying to tell us something. The poem continues:

Still thou art blest, compared with me!
The present only toucheth thee:
But och! I backward cast my e'e, [eye]
On prospects drear!
And forward tho' I canna see, [cannot]
I guess and fear!

The mouse is blessed because it is conscious only of the present. It cannot remember the past or contemplate the future. Despite being homeless and unable to find new house building material in the bare November fields, the mouse is more fortunate than Burns, according to the poem, because it is neither haunted by the past nor fearful of an unknown future.

Is there a lesson here? Something about the futility of endlessly trying to guess a future we cannot see?

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #29 on:** October 26, 2014, 03:39:22 PM »

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Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
What a disapointment.

More than that !

None of what the Bishop writes so far (parts 1 and 2 ) is not already known.

Question: Why is he now publicly supporting it ?

Question: What is the real motive for "going public" ?

Fr. Cekada once wrote: "We learned to ask ourselves what Fr. Williamson wasn't saying rather than what he was saying to find the real truth behind what he was saying."

These are questions I have been asking myself. I don’t know the answer nor have I spoken to DM in many months or know H.E.+W’s mind in this matter but I do know that he believes it (wrong or right) and that he has the best intentions at heart. Your quote from Fr. Cekada also had me thinking…as well as the last interview with Archbishop Pozzo.

I would like to make some observations but first and want to say that I agree with Nishant’s post, it was excellent. However, this messages are only for the SSPX and for +Fellay to lead the Rosary Crusade for that specific intention. As far as I know, +Fellay got his sign and believed it but perhaps was pressured by the leadership/ GREC to pursue an agreement.

As I said, I have been asking myself: “why now?”… and now I’m wondering why in bits and pieces and these are my thoughts:

+Fellay and the SSPX are on the path to Rome, Archbishop Pozzo just said in the latest interview: “I do not think that we can indicate at this moment a specific due date for the conclusion of the path taken".

Question: Is + Williamson giving +Fellay time to make up his mind to change course? Would +Fellay want all the details revealed (and I don’t mean to imply he has anything to hide)? Is +Williamson encouraging +Fellay to cut all ties with Rome and openly lead an all out Rosary Crusade for the Consecration of Russia as requested by O.L. of Fatima? Could you imagine the power of such Crusade by all Catholics today when they see the prophesy of O.L. Fatima of “Apostasy from the top” fulfilled before their eyes by the very person whose very job is to protect the Deposit of the Faith?

These is all my own speculation. I’m trying to understand why now. I spoke with +W by phone a few days before E.C. 379 and didn't mention anything. I was as surprised as everyone else. Just my opinion, shoot it if you will.