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Offline Centroamerica

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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2014, 04:28:37 PM »
It's a good idea, but have you considered the size of the apostolates of many priests SSPX or resistance. You could invite some priests in Latin America, who type well in English, but many priests have packed schedule and little time to start an internet "apostolate". Either way, you could invite some to participate. The fact that CI is the original internet source of the Bishops' letters is probably worthy to add.
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Offline curioustrad

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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2014, 09:42:17 PM »
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But then the good Bishop in question has been doing exactly what Matthew asks - communicate with us - and for 3 weeks now he has been pushing "apparitionism" and starting more rumors than CI can hold threads (if such a thing were possible) - SIGH


Reality, I guess, is in the eye of the beholder.  That the bishop has been "pushing "apparitionism"" is not my perception at all.  He has been trying to explain how disappointed Our Lady is.  She does not approve of the stated motives and reasons for past Rosary Crusades.  She wanted them conducted for the single purpose of bringing about the Consecration of Russia.  You might fault the bishop for believing as he does that Our Lady communicated with a "seer," and asked her to pass this message along.  You might not believe any of this.  You might feel that the only way to address this enormity is by heaping abuse upon the alleged seer, by discrediting her in every way possible, by pointing to her perceived character flaws, by photographing her house, etc.  But the fact remains:  Bishop Williamson believes her, though his faith in her may have fallen off earlier.  It has since been renewed.  Apparently, Bp. Fellay himself believes in her, or at least did so at one time.  The bishop is not "pushing" apparitionism per se .  He has simply contructed a narrative involving an alleged apparition, in which he himself is, apparently, supremely confident, and by which, he feels, a deeper understanding of the 'Rosary Crusade' era may be better understood and accepted by all.  Obviously, a number of trads are troubled.  But name for me, historically, one apparition,  Church approved or otherwise, which has not been hotly disputed.  It is no different here.  I believe the bishop is telling the truth.  I believe "Mary Smith" is telling the truth.  Could that change?  I suppose it could, if later overwhelming evidence reveals that the whole thing is a hoax.   So stop sighing, Curioustrad.


I had deliberately avoided rehashing that here - there is a discussion in general of the wisdom or otherwise of clergy getting involved on the internet. I evoked Bp. W as an example of the dangers of clergy stirring hornets' nests. I was not intending to discuss his work here. BTW I "sighed" only once !
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Offline curioustrad

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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2014, 09:53:37 PM »
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In reference to the topic of this thread there is a lot of good for priests to use the internet to their benefit, but I think fora have one huge drawback - they equalize the priest with the laity. In a church setting - clergy have a pulpit and can use it to bolster their arguments but the internet levels the playing-field a priest is just one man behind a computer screen with many other lay-people behind theirs.


Yes, but I would envision a priest having a special status or account type --

All his posts would have a light-red background. He could give TEN thumbs-up or thumbs-down with a single click. And he'd probably have regular "mod" powers as well.

All of this would be fitting for a man of his office.



That might sound like a good idea (and it is) but what happens to the priest if the proverbial food fight breaks out - pictures of his dwelling with battery of satellite dishes and antennae  and of course no statue in the yard.... but an olympic size pool and caddy in the driveway with butler in full livery to boot !

In the lingo of the (I suppose it's a "classic" film to some): "Who ya gonna call ?"

I know clergy themselves have had e-mail lists - they were all signed up, raring to go and boom the first question asked by an independent was shot down by a CMRI priest and the rest of the list went nowhere real fast. If the clergy cannot agree with each other in private what chance the clergy in public where the lay people cannot agree either ?

I think in (a Leibnitz mode here): "In the best of all possible worlds" it is truly a great idea, but probably doomed because of turf wars and clerical animosities of all kinds. I think we are on a good track here with this discussion. I would like to see it continue.
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