Author Topic: Eleison comments 380 October 25, 2014 (Read 40361 times)

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #240 on:** October 31, 2014, 04:23:13 PM »

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So what exactly does Dawn Marie hope to gain from this besides publicity?

I don't know for sure but someone already mentioned she has a "Donate Button" on her website.

This CANNOT get anymore bizarre!!! Or can?

The donations are for Mass stipends for the Crusader's masses for the consecration of Russia. Why are you deliberately trying to make it sound like she is soliciting donations for her personal use? That is underhanded behavior.

And you have certitude about this how?
If you do, please list the priests, Masses, and times for us.

With that post, I think this thread(s) has reached a new low.

Matthew · « **Reply #241 on:** October 31, 2014, 04:28:03 PM »

The fact is that any speculation about Dawn Marie's motives is pure speculation.

Let's stick to the facts here.

When you talk about determining a person's interior motives, it's impossible to grasp or attain to the truth. Can one of us read her heart from a distance?

And bringing up the "donate" button is neither here nor there, because we have no way to audit where the money goes. That is an objective fact. So it can't be used as evidence pro or con.

ultrarigorist · « **Reply #242 on:** October 31, 2014, 04:28:30 PM »

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So what exactly does Dawn Marie hope to gain from this besides publicity?

I don't know for sure but someone already mentioned she has a "Donate Button" on her website.

This CANNOT get anymore bizarre!!! Or can?

The donations are for Mass stipends for the Crusader's masses for the consecration of Russia. Why are you deliberately trying to make it sound like she is soliciting donations for her personal use? That is underhanded behavior.

And you have certitude about this how?
If you do, please list the priests, Masses, and times for us.

With that post, I think this thread(s) has reached a new low.

Ah, but surely you'll stay with it 1MT, right to the bottom, huh? If you wanted to prove your point though, you could answer the question (assuming that's possible)

hollingsworth · « **Reply #243 on:** October 31, 2014, 04:52:41 PM »

Matthew:

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The fact is that any speculation about Dawn Marie's motives is pure speculation.

That might have been said 48 pages ago.

Militia Jesu · « **Reply #244 on:** October 31, 2014, 05:50:17 PM »

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Matthew:
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The fact is that any speculation about Dawn Marie's motives is pure speculation.

That might have been said 48 pages ago.

Speculation might've been in regards to what she does with the money donated through her website but not in regards to the message having flaws and the messenger having lied on more than one occasion about her vision.

But the willfully blind won't see it. Rev. Fr. William Welsh have rightly said that the people who follow these apparitions have developed a devotion, an avidity for these and future messages, which easily stands out as the chief characteristic of their spiritual life. The slightest doubt expressed [let alone proven facts] in their presence about the truth or holiness of these supposed heavenly manifestations will immediately raise an emotional furore difficult to ever completely pacify.

The Church's Magisterium with all its popes, theologians and TRUE mystics will be of no avail for these kind of people who are prone to accept a phenomena that appears "catholic oriented", the words "hold fast to tradition" are conveniently forgotten by all of them.

Kyrie Eleison indeed!