Author Topic: Eleison Comments" by Mgr. Williamson - Asian Journey - 309 (Read 17056 times)

stgobnait · « **Reply #15 on:** June 15, 2013, 02:45:52 PM »

The West's Awake.... Thank God.....

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #16 on:** June 15, 2013, 03:33:37 PM »

Quote from: magdalena

OK, maybe I shouldn't have compared +Williamson (in his Eleison Comments) to a gambler. I was basing it on the post below. But you have to admit that there is a game afoot in the SSPX; otherwise, why the confusion?

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Quote from: Militia Jesu
I'm glad I wasn't the only one scared at the “Eleison Comments of two weeks ago on authority being crippled".

Thank you, Your Excellency!

Thanks also to Fr. Chazal!

So he shook you up a little bit -- and didn't lose you!

So it worked. That's good news!

I know others who came away saying, "It sounds like he's giving up!"

And it worked on them, too, because they had been rather critical of
+W before that, but seeing the possibility that he might be bowing out
of the scuffle actually scared them.. That's good!

I expect that "gambler" is over the top. There are too many lurid
connotations there.

Better to say "calculated risk" because +W knows the landscape
pretty well. He knows the Faith and he knows Catholics all over the
world. He can see what's happening, and he is prepared to comply
with the will of God. So what to us may look like a gamble to him is
really a little daring, perhaps, but not really that risky.

It only appears risky when we don't have the inside scoop.

PatrickG · « **Reply #17 on:** June 15, 2013, 03:36:09 PM »

Quote from: stgobnait

The West's Awake.... Thank God.....

Thank God indeed - If you'll forgive me quoting Tolkien:
FORTH EORLINGAS!

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #18 on:** June 15, 2013, 03:42:22 PM »

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Quote from: stgobnait
The West's Awake.... Thank God.....

Thank God indeed - If you'll forgive me quoting Tolkien:
FORTH EORLINGAS!

"The West" is Ireland? :confused1:

When did that happen?

What do you call the land west of the Mississippi, then???

PatrickG · « **Reply #19 on:** June 15, 2013, 03:46:39 PM »

The metaphorical west. Europe. Old Christendom, if you will.

stgobnait · « **Reply #20 on:** June 15, 2013, 03:52:47 PM »

The Wests AWAKE... THOMAS OSBOURNE DAVIS... refers to the west of Ireland... silly me, i thought everyone knew that......

PatrickG · « **Reply #21 on:** June 15, 2013, 03:54:13 PM »

I thought you might mean Ireland... Well, I'm a dunce. Nevertheless, I am sure that the Bishop's Irish Conference will be as good as they invariably are - the man is a lion for Tradition in every way, he's always at the breach where the fighting's thickest.

stgobnait · « **Reply #22 on:** June 15, 2013, 04:02:21 PM »

not at all. 'But hark,a voice like thunder spake... The wests awake, the wests awake.... it is a joy to see BW in the west of Ireland.... :dancing: please join in the dance.....:)

John Grace · « **Reply #23 on:** June 15, 2013, 04:10:19 PM »

Quote from: PatrickG

Good, no excellent! Any hope of a video?

Yes, keep posted. The 1st conference was on seven ages of the church and in context of crisis of the SSPX.

The second dealt with what is Catholic and what is Modernist.With Pascendi used.Also critique of Kant.

Regardless of personal opinions of Bishop Fellay, there is the emphasis on doctrine.

With Bishop Fellay tip toeing through the tulips with the conciliar church, we must not forget doctrine.

stgobnait · « **Reply #24 on:** June 15, 2013, 04:26:43 PM »

Sorry if i was being parochial..... sure dont the Irish always think we are the centre of the universe... :dancing:

PatrickG · « **Reply #25 on:** June 15, 2013, 04:28:57 PM »

Not at all. And a little line of dancing men:
:dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing:

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PatrickG said:
Good, no excellent! Any hope of a video?

Yes, keep posted. The 1st conference was on seven ages of the church and in context of crisis of the SSPX.

The second dealt with what is Catholic and what is Modernist.With Pascendi used.Also critique of Kant.

Regardless of personal opinions of Bishop Fellay, there is the emphasis on doctrine.

With Bishop Fellay tip toeing through the tulips with the conciliar church, we must not forget doctrine.

Excellent.

John Grace · « **Reply #26 on:** June 15, 2013, 04:41:52 PM »

To coincide with the visit of the Bishop,the SSPX youth group organised an outing so were absent from the conference today.Total lack of respect for the Bishop.That is not to say those present were all old folk.No, there was mix age group.

The youth group was asked to change date of their outing but declined.A clear snub of the one chosen by the Archbishop.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #27 on:** June 15, 2013, 06:39:59 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: PatrickG
Quote from: stgobnait
The West's Awake.... Thank God.....

Thank God indeed - If you'll forgive me quoting Tolkien:
FORTH EORLINGAS!

"The West" is Ireland? :confused1:

When did that happen?

What do you call the land west of the Mississippi, then???

Double west.

- or -

Triple West.

- or -

Way Out West

Incredulous · « **Reply #28 on:** June 15, 2013, 07:43:57 PM »

Touche' Msgr. Williamson!
You have rallied the troops.

magdalena · « **Reply #29 on:** June 15, 2013, 08:36:30 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

I expect that "gambler" is over the top. There are too many lurid
connotations there.

Better to say "calculated risk" because +W knows the landscape
pretty well. He knows the Faith and he knows Catholics all over the
world. He can see what's happening, and he is prepared to comply
with the will of God. So what to us may look like a gamble to him is
really a little daring, perhaps, but not really that risky.

It only appears risky when we don't have the inside scoop.

I apologize for any "lurid connotations" in my original post. The phase "calculated risk" does perhaps suit it better. My reasoning was that +Williamson has been dealt a hand, and he appears to be playing it out. I'm not a card player, but I know what it entails.

:sign-surrender: