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Eleison CDXIV (414)
« on: June 20, 2015, 09:25:03 PM »
Is Russia’s Consecration out of date?
It’s indispensable, however late.
By Bishop Williamson
When on June 13, 1929, Our Lady of Fatima appeared to Sister Lucy at Tuy in Spain to ask for the Consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart, it made perfect sense, because ever since the Russian Revolution broke out in October, 1917, Russia had been persecuting the Church and acting as the main instrument of Communism to spread its deadly errors throughout the world. However, Russia is now playing such a different part on the stage of world affairs that a number of Catholics are wondering if that Consecration is still needed. Has it not been overtaken by events?
True, with the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 the Russian people began to repudiate the godless Communism under which they had suffered so much for 70 years, and since then they have not ceased to evolve towards God instead of away from him. Leading this evolution has been Russia’a Prime Minister or President since 1999, Vladimir Putin (born in1952), who by his personal example and public leadership has done all he could to promote the real revival of the Christian Orthodox religion within Russia. Some observers still doubt that Putin is genuine, but the fruits are there: thousands of churches and cathedrals rebuilt all over Russia and morality defended, while outside of Russia Putin has more than once delayed the outbreak of World War III by outwitting the delinquent Western politicians, puppets of the godless nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr and pushing for its triumph.
Then can one say that Russia today no longer needs to be converted? No, because Orthodox Christianity is not yet Catholicism, and because Communism has reportedly left its mark on the morals of the Russian people, for instance in the still widespread practice of abortion. But what one can surely say is that by the present religious revival, witnessed for many a year now by Western visitors to Russia, Our Lady is preparing for the full conversion of Russia, and while that full conversi on may no longer be needed to put an end to Russian Communism, in the 21st century it may be even more needed to overcome world Globalism. Let us speculate on how that might happen.
To break out of the aggressive encirclement of Russia by military bases of a nameless western power which has let itself be instrumentalised by the evil Masters of Globalism, Russia, the apparent but not the real aggressor (the two are not always the same), invades and conquers Europe thoroughly corrupted by atheistic materialism. Under the pressure of war and occupation, the Pope at last performs the Consecration of Russia, as requested by Our Lady at Fatima, and the miraculous full conversion begins to take place, but not to the putrid religion of Conciliar Rome, rather to a brand-new (and brand-old) Catholicism (Mt.XIII, 52), in which all the Truth of Eternal Rome and of the once faithful West is revitalised by the religious freshness of the post-Communist Russians drawing on everything truest and best in their own Eastern traditions.
Wishful thinking? The details here stitched together from prophecies, and even the grand lines of the speculation can be wrong, but in any case some such miracle will be wrought by Our Lady to cleanse the East of its errors and the West of its corruption, so that the Church can again breathe with both lungs, and so that there can come about that “period of peace for the world” which she promised at Fatima. In any case believers will be crying out with St Paul, “O the depth of the riches of the wisdom and of the knowledge of God! How incomprehensible are his judgments, and how unsearchable his ways!” (Rom. XI, 33). If we are among the survivors, we shall be marvelling at the works of God and of his Blessed Mother.
Kyrie eleison.

Eleison CDXIV (414)
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2015, 11:27:56 PM »
Quote from: Bishop Williamson
and the miraculous full conversion begins to take place, but not to the putrid religion of Conciliar Rome, rather to a brand-new (and brand-old) Catholicism (Mt.XIII, 52), in which all the Truth of Eternal Rome and of the once faithful West is revitalised by the religious freshness of the post-Communist Russians drawing on everything truest and best in their own Eastern traditions.


The Orthodox would go for this if by "old Catholicism" he means pre-schism Catholicism.  :-)

I appreciate Bishop Williamson's thoughts on this particularly when he states the so-called "conversion" of Russia would allow the East to bring their truest and best traditions with them.  They have many of those, and not just in Russia but also Greece, Syria, Lebanon, Romania, etc.  Here is one such beautiful tradition.  The Beatitudes sung by the monks of Valaam Monastery in Russia.




Eleison CDXIV (414)
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2015, 04:48:48 AM »
I have never been a great believer in this solution to the ills of this world coming via Russia. Prophesies come and go and have always been found wanting. Clairvoyance for religious people. If any place wants cleansing, it is the West  ......  maybe starting with Rome herself! The ideas that plagued Russia came from the West, more particularly that predatory race that infests the organs of power and big business.

If Russia is now instrumental in saving the world from the greed of the West, it will not be thanks to the Western branch of Christianity, past or present. I cannot see why converted Russia (to corrupted Catholicism) would not go the say way as all the other Catholic nations. Indeed, conservative Orthodoxy may be her saviour!

For what it is worth the Fatima message is desparately out of date. Rome has lost the faith and the consecration was not done. One hundred years on, that little industry on the side should now change into ensuring the displaced Church at home survives the consequences. The rest is tedious speculation.  

Eleison CDXIV (414)
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 07:54:28 AM »
Quote from: Wessex
I have never been a great believer in this solution to the ills of this world coming via Russia. Prophesies come and go and have always been found wanting. Clairvoyance for religious people. If any place wants cleansing, it is the West  ......  maybe starting with Rome herself! The ideas that plagued Russia came from the West, more particularly that predatory race that infests the organs of power and big business.

If Russia is now instrumental in saving the world from the greed of the West, it will not be thanks to the Western branch of Christianity, past or present. I cannot see why converted Russia (to corrupted Catholicism) would not go the say way as all the other Catholic nations. Indeed, conservative Orthodoxy may be her saviour!

For what it is worth the Fatima message is desparately out of date. Rome has lost the faith and the consecration was not done. One hundred years on, that little industry on the side should now change into ensuring the displaced Church at home survives the consequences. The rest is tedious speculation.  


Wessex, I agree with you 100%.  Calling Communism the "errors of Russia" is ludicrous because Communism was and is a Western invention backed by Freemasons and yes, the Vatican!  The whole Fatima thing, whatever happen there in 1917, whatever was seen there, was completely politicized on the part of the Vatican, and now the SSPX has picked up the torch.  Don't take my word for it, read the history of what was happening in 1917 and beyond.  I mean no offense to anyone here who staunchly believes in Fatima and all the "messages" but there is a lot more to Fatima than what you may have been led to believe.  I'll say no more.  

Eleison CDXIV (414)
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2015, 09:02:05 AM »
Quote from: saintalice
Quote from: Wessex
I have never been a great believer in this solution to the ills of this world coming via Russia. Prophesies come and go and have always been found wanting. Clairvoyance for religious people. If any place wants cleansing, it is the West  ......  maybe starting with Rome herself! The ideas that plagued Russia came from the West, more particularly that predatory race that infests the organs of power and big business.

If Russia is now instrumental in saving the world from the greed of the West, it will not be thanks to the Western branch of Christianity, past or present. I cannot see why converted Russia (to corrupted Catholicism) would not go the say way as all the other Catholic nations. Indeed, conservative Orthodoxy may be her saviour!

For what it is worth the Fatima message is desparately out of date. Rome has lost the faith and the consecration was not done. One hundred years on, that little industry on the side should now change into ensuring the displaced Church at home survives the consequences. The rest is tedious speculation.  


Wessex, I agree with you 100%.  Calling Communism the "errors of Russia" is ludicrous because Communism was and is a Western invention backed by Freemasons and yes, the Vatican!  The whole Fatima thing, whatever happen there in 1917, whatever was seen there, was completely politicized on the part of the Vatican, and now the SSPX has picked up the torch.  Don't take my word for it, read the history of what was happening in 1917 and beyond.  I mean no offense to anyone here who staunchly believes in Fatima and all the "messages" but there is a lot more to Fatima than what you may have been led to believe.  I'll say no more.  


Yes, the errors of Russia were indeed the errors brought to her from Eastside New York by the predatory tribal entity. They however, never ceased to be promulgated from that same group throughout the U.S., the West, and wherever those agents of chaos are found. Today this country has been the font of spreading the filth and degradation for a longer period than Russia had done.
And true that it was Catholic popes who allowed and assisted the sin of usury to spread and allow the Enemy his greatest source of power and influence, even joining in and participating when they established the Vatican bank.