This woman said she had an apparition experience. Whether anyone believes it or not is up to them...If someone I respect ( Williamson ) tells he believes her then that definitely moves me to examine it/her. But how is he spreading falsehoods? She certainly seems to believe herself. So you're free to believe her or not. We all KNOW that praying the Rosary for the Consecration is something Our Blessed Mother wants. So it's not a stretch to believe.....again, how does that opinion  constitute "spreading falsehoods"? If you can't contain your contempt for a holy bishop then shut up. Don't you have some buttons that need to be re-sewn onto your kids' jacket or something? I mean can't some of you people find something remotely edifying to do/say/contribute?

Because if they agree with the good Bishop that Our Lady did come with a message then they would have to accept the maybe BenedictXV1 was Pope after all and that would not help their Sede views now, would it?.
Anyway the message states that if Bishop Fellay does not comply the SSPX would be no more.....well it certainly not looking too crash hot at present.

Well the cat's outta the bag now! This story has been kept secret for a while. I certain well known priest mentioned her name to me a few days ago. If I am not mistaken she is American. I think that this is something that could be very significant soon. We will see where this is going.

Secret ? she has a website that has been pushing this stuff even demanding people to pray novenas to made up titles of Our Lady and telling people to "shut up" if they oppose her in any way. She's a "legend" in the other Trad Cath fora.

I can't quite square this with authentic signs of piety that according to the standard ascetical mystical theology text books one ought to see in real "seers" - humility, docility, meekness - in other words if Our Lady is the interlocutor - then the recipient of these graces would effectively seek to imitate the Blessed Mother's virtues not promote websites, and health food recipes and anything else that takes her fancy.

If Bishop Williamson is in the business of promoting this woman (after saying to me at least he disbelieved her) then ALL of this is fair game since he brought up the subject.

Note: Bishop Williamson is not fair game ! Just his opinion concerning the veracity of these "revelations".

From here on in I expect the "Dawn Marie" surrogates (or even "herself" under pseudonymous posts) to fill this thread with pro-apparition bilge. Anybody who has the nerve to refer to herself as "La Petite Plume" (The little Pen of Our Lady) is already out to lunch and I have privately opposed this to the priests of the resistance and will do so publicly even to the trashing of my reputation if I have to.

Consider this:

A woman claiming locutions may be receiving them from:

(a) God, Angel, Saint i.e. BVM (supernatural in origin)
(b) Evil Spirit (Preternatural)
(c) human agency:

(i) Others telling her what to say
(ii) Delusions - which subdivide into from an overactive pious mind, weak mind - imaginings (not necessarily malicious) or mental issues far more serious.

The usual authority to examine these questions are the local bishop (Yes "mickey-mouse eared Noonan) but more importantly competent psychiatrists, medical doctors, learned priests and a barrage of "real" tests.

The standard operating procedure is take it all with a grain of salt and disbelieve it until the contrary is proved.

Then examine the content of the messages:

Do they square with other apparitions, teachings of Scripture, questions of Faith and Morals ?

Are there prophecies ? Are they fulfilled ? Are they made at a great distance from the fulfilment so that the thing accomplished could not easily have been known beforehand ? If they are not fulfilled - well then case closed !

Subjective criteria: personal sanctity of the seer ? Lives life of virtue ? Faithful to the Sacraments ? Attachment to venial or mortal sin ? Has a confessor ? Submits to him in all that he says even the smallest degree ?

Only after years of careful observation can answers be concluded to these questions. They are not decided on the internet, nor by opinion polls, and with all due respect to the Bishop neither in personal columns that may have other motives other than just revealing his belief (now) of the veracity.

It will be noted that Bishop Williamson took a side-swipe at Bishop Fellay in this column - Our Lady is not a bludgeoning weapon to settle old scores. Either she has a message FOR US or She does not.

I wait to be enlightened more by further columns but so far I have very little that I know of that convinces me these "apparitions" are real.

One other powerful but highly subjective motive for credibility is: how is this devotion received by the faithful ? Do we find our own personal sanctity increased or diminished by exposure to all of this - do we respond with courtesy and charity towards one another right here and now on this forum ? If it produces bitterness and angst - then who produces that - God or the devil ? If it is an authentic call from Our Lady She will confirm it Herself as She did in Portugal after Fatima with a whole country converted or Mexico with the Tilma of Guadalupe.

Agree with every word, curioustrad.

Old news from at least 2012.

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=21105&min=0&num=5

http://sspxkorea.org/board/board_view.html?board_data_id=406470&config_id=5147

And:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Rosary-crusade-for-the-Consecration-of-Russia

Thanks for this link. Found this interesting post by Incredulous:

Does anyone remember when Bp. Fellay was going around the US telling the SSPX faithful the little girl's story from the Chapel of Rue de Bac?

It went like this: A French Catholic mother dropped her young daughter off at the Rue de bac Chapel, while trying to find parking.

While the child was alone in Church, she spoke to Mother Mary and was told
that the SSPX was where the true Mass was.  The mother learned this story after the child returned from Church.  I believe the child went back a second time at her mother's urging and confirmed the message from the Blessed Virgin.
Posted Aug 14, 2012, 3:03 am

If asked about this today I wonder if Bp.Fellay would say that what was mean't was  " the SSPX was where the true extra-ordinary rite of Mass was"

Everyone who made a rash judgement could probably make a quick trip to confession. The lady´s name is NOT DAWN MARIE.

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Everyone who made a rash judgement could probably make a quick trip to confession. The lady´s name is NOT DAWN MARIE.

So pray tell?   Is Dawn Marie fronting for her?

The real question is "Who is the priest or bishop who said that this is about Dawn Marie?"

No one, only a bunch of people who don´t know anything about anything and consider themselves the experts of everything. Like a plague in our chapels this arrogance....

We are all extremely limited in our intelligence, but some more than others.