Author Topic: ELEISON 379 - OCTOBER 18, 2014 (Read 52933 times)

hollingsworth · « **Reply #20 on:** October 20, 2014, 11:35:14 AM »

If Our Lady did appear to Bp. Fellay, and instruct him to conduct a Rosary Crusade, then I, for one, am going to have to rethink the whole matter. We have a pretty deep attachment to Bp. Williamson, accompanied by a very deep suspicion of Bp. Fellay and most of what he says or does. If the SG inaugurated these Rosary Crusades under direct,(or indirect), instruction from Our Lady, then why wasn't that fact announced from the very beginning? Why didn't the bishop indicate then that he was acting under obedience to what was, or what he thought sincerely to be at the time, the Holy Virgin's request? To tell you the truth, I have always thought that the Rosary Crusades were rather cynical ploys, designed to bind the sspx faithful more tightly to their leaders. If I'm wrong, then I suppose I must repent in leisure.

Elsa Zardini · « **Reply #21 on:** October 20, 2014, 11:57:43 AM »

Adolfito, How about doing your homework? That’s a different seer. And, you
say “I would not trust a "seer" who attended the Novus Ordo Missae”. Can a mexican (you) who has never attended Resistance Masses offered by Resistant Fathers in Mexico be trusted? Or, is that ok for ashke…nαzιs ? Just saying...

Matthew · « **Reply #22 on:** October 20, 2014, 02:29:26 PM »

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But.... Our Lord would not be too pleased for one of His bishops to espouse falsehoods...

That's neither here nor there. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

We're not talking about criticizing a bishop's actions or beliefs. I explicitly stated that criticizing a Bishop's actions was A) compatible with Catholicism and B) allowed on CathInfo.

What I will not allow on CathInfo is an outburst of name-calling and hate towards ANY Bishop. And yes that includes Bishop Fellay.

Go ahead and look -- you won't find such a post on CathInfo.

"But I was told CathInfo is the cesspool of humanity. That no one on the forum can even remember what being in the State of Grace felt like. That..."

Well maybe you were misinformed!

Matthew · « **Reply #23 on:** October 20, 2014, 02:33:18 PM »

Quote from: Nemmersdorf

But.... Our Lord would not be too pleased for one of His bishops to espouse falsehoods...

Then I would suggest respectfully addressing the falsehoods and exposing them here.

No one is afraid of the truth; least of all me.

Good men can be deceived or wrong. It happens all the time. I don't believe Bishop Williamson is infallible. Hearing that he might be espousing some kind of false apparition doesn't shake my "faith" in him. I don't believe him to be super-human or perfect.

I just believe him to be a good Bishop who has labored many years amidst poverty and persecution to teach as many men the Truth as possible, and help us all get to heaven. I don't have to take others' word for it; I knew him personally for 3 years. So for me it's "not open for debate".

I can't expect others to have that kind of "inside scoop", but I can expect everyone to act within the bounds of Catholic morality and Catholic charity when dealing with a consecrated Bishop.

Adolphus · « **Reply #24 on:** October 20, 2014, 02:55:47 PM »

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By that logic, why does Our Lady need Rosaries at all? By + Burke? +Fellay? +Ratzinger?

The reason, perhaps, that she chose a bishop from the SSPX was to use tradition as the means to her end. Or maybe, just maybe, she got tired of waiting 80+ years for a Novus Ordo prelate that she thought a traditional bishop might actually get the job done? Who are we to question the mother of God?

To question the Mother of God?…

Did She really give such messages? How could we know so? What else has She reveled?

As H.E. said: “Stay tuned”!

What for? To read this?

I don't think His Excellency is going to quote Fr. Grossin's opinion nor in which conditions Fathers Ortiz and Jely found the "seer".

Mr. Adolphus: If you think Bp. Williamson is talking about Mme. Rossiniere, you are very wrong. Get informed before inoculate your poison.

Thank you very much for the clarification. I am glad to know His Excellency is referring to a different seer.

I apologize for the confusion I might have caused.