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Author Topic: Eastern Orthodox Monk and vlogger converts to Catholic Resistance  (Read 1125 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Eastern Orthodox Monk and vlogger converts to Catholic Resistance
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2026, 02:45:40 PM »
Too bad for you, Xavier Nishant, that Brother didn't convert to your Modernist-heretical Anti-Church ... since it's obvious to all of good faith that it's not the Church founded by Christ but one that had been infiltrated and corrupted by ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic Commie scuм.

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Eastern Orthodox Monk and vlogger converts to Catholic Resistance
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2026, 03:27:47 PM »
And the CMRI is the Church founded by Christ?  The CMRI was founded, not by Christ, but by Francis Schuckardt, aka (homosequal) antipope Hadrian VII.
Doesn't matter.  The CMRI catholics will still be saved, just like the Anglican woman "bishop" and her followers, just like Fr Martin and his degenerate fellows, just like Muslims whom JP2 (the Koran Kisser) blessed, just like the joos, whom Benedict 16 blessed, just like the orthodox heretics, just like our "separated brethren" the protestants who deny the papacy, Our Lady, etc.  Everyone is saved, if they are sincere.  So says V2.  CMRI is very sincere.


Re: Eastern Orthodox Monk and vlogger converts to Catholic Resistance
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2026, 03:44:37 PM »
This is a perfect example of warped reasoning and blindess of Trad heretics.  They will point to alleged teachings of V2 or the post Vatican II popes that the Trads themselves profess to be false or heretical in order to justify their position/status. 

Pax, do you believe all will be saved if they are sincere?  If yes, then you are guilty of believing what you falsely accuse the Church today of teaching.  If not, then you are condemned for being separated from the Catholic Church. 
Look... The Church dogmatically defined at the Council of Florence (and several times before that) that there is no salvation for anyone outside the Church. The dogmatic constitution of the Second Vatican Council Lumen Gentium tells us that some people can be saved outside the Church.

Oh, and you also believe in the same "god" with Muslims?

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Eastern Orthodox Monk and vlogger converts to Catholic Resistance
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2026, 03:45:56 PM »
This is a perfect example of warped reasoning and blindess of Trad heretics.  They will point to alleged teachings of V2 or the post Vatican II popes that the Trads themselves profess to be false or heretical in order to justify their position/status. 

Pax, do you believe all will be saved if they are sincere?  If yes, then you are guilty of believing what you falsely accuse the Church today of teaching.  If not, then you are condemned for being separated from the Catholic Church, even if you are sincere about your heresy and schism. 
Rome's approach to the Orthodox applies to CMRI.  There is no substantial difference between the Orthodox and various Trad groups.  If v2 teaches that the Orthodox can be saved, then so can Trads. 

Vatican II Teachings on the Orthodox
1.  Valid Sacraments: Docuмents like Lumen Gentium and Unitatis Redintegratio recognize that Orthodox churches true-up with valid holy orders and the Eucharist.
2.  Elements of Sanctification: The council notes that many elements of grace and truth exist outside the visible bounds of the Catholic Church.
3.  Invincible Ignorance: Individuals born into Eastern Orthodoxy are not held personally culpable for the historical schism.
4.  Source of Salvation: Catholic theology maintains that all salvation comes through Christ and his Church.
5.  Ecclesial Communion: Because the Orthodox possess true local churches and sacraments, their path to salvation is closely tied to the spiritual life already active within their own traditions.

Re: Eastern Orthodox Monk and vlogger converts to Catholic Resistance
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2026, 03:54:26 PM »
Lumen Gentium repeats traditional theology, which you can find in any pre-Vatican II catechism or theology manual.  For example, the Catechism of Pius X, which distinguishes between the body and soul of the Church, and explicitly teaches that a non-Catholic can be united to the soul of the Church (but not the body) and be on the way to salvation. That means, a non-Catholic can possess supernatural faith, hope and charity, and be in the state of grace.  If they die in that state, they are saved.  That is basic Catholic theology.  If you deny that, you are the one in error.
Pope Innocent III, ex Cathedra, IV Lateran Council:
"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved."

Non-Catholics can't be part of the faithful, right?