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Offline John Grace

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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2013, 04:15:32 PM »
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    We need to print out this letter and pass it around to friends, family, and fellow parishioners. Fr. Hewko was written a very sober, sane, balanced, Catholic, and informative letter. He has done a lot of the work for us. We just need to send this out, and hopefully those of good will can react accordingly.


    I don't disagree with you but stgobnait is correct regarding Ireland.If people haven't the inclination or there is no meeting of minds, people will not act.

    It's no harm sharing but personally I shan't be doing it. Frances made a good point of where the emphasis should be.

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    « Reply #31 on: September 22, 2013, 04:16:45 PM »
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  • Fr Hewko

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    That time is now!


    The time was much earlier.


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    « Reply #32 on: September 22, 2013, 04:57:29 PM »
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  • For what it's worth, our new priest gave a conference between Masses on Vatican II.

    I could not stay to hear what he had to say, but others on this forum might be able to fill me/you in.

    He also mentioned the recent scandalous actions/quotes of the Pope, and asked that we fast and pray for him.

    It was not as strident a condemnation as I would have liked to have heard.

    But the point was that both Vatican II and papal scandal were dealt with today.

    I mention it in fairness to him, only because in another thread a few days ago, I observed that Vatican II had been ignored since his arrival.
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-

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    « Reply #33 on: September 22, 2013, 04:59:44 PM »
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    What I did suggest is that the sight of a Pope kissing the Koran causing a man to run away screaming into a CMRI chapel to "sign me up" is not the hallmark of a stable, balanced, rational man.


    Well, I don't know of too many that have done this as the emotional types typically don't think too much about doctrine being the deciding factor in anything.



    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

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    « Reply #34 on: September 22, 2013, 06:22:50 PM »
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    Dear Friends,

         If ever I had sedevacantist temptations, the time would be NOW. It's becoming increasingly difficult for me to believe that the man occupying the Chair of Peter is really pope.

         I thought I would never live to see the day when my liberal, neo-pagan co-workers would actually come to my desk and laughingly exhort me to FOLLOW what the pope says!
         


    I don't think the present situation requires folk to go from non-SV to SV. I do think it requires us to finally state the obvious - THIS GUY AIN'T CATHOLIC!


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    « Reply #35 on: September 22, 2013, 06:29:06 PM »
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    Quote from: Skunkwurxsspx
    Dear Friends,

         If ever I had sedevacantist temptations, the time would be NOW. It's becoming increasingly difficult for me to believe that the man occupying the Chair of Peter is really pope.

         I thought I would never live to see the day when my liberal, neo-pagan co-workers would actually come to my desk and laughingly exhort me to FOLLOW what the pope says!
         


    I don't think the present situation requires folk to go from non-SV to SV. I do think it requires us to finally state the obvious - THIS GUY AIN'T CATHOLIC!

    if he's not christian how can he be our pope?
    St. Robert Bellarmine,
    De Romano Pontifice
    , II, 30:
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    This principle is most certain. The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope, as
    Cajetan himself admits (ib. c. 26). The reason for this is that he cannot be head of
    what he is not a member;
    now he who is not a Christian is not a member of the
    Church,
    and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St.
    Cyprian (lib. 4, epist. 2), St. Athanasius (S
    cr. 2 cont. Arian.), St. Augustine (lib. De
    great. Christ. Cap. 20), St. Jerome (contra Lucifer.) and others; therefore the
    manifest heretic cannot be Pope


    what FR Hewko told me today was that Francis is not a manifest heretic

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    « Reply #36 on: September 22, 2013, 08:00:24 PM »
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  • Matthew, it isn't just about emotion.  There's a very strong impression (an intellectual one) that Bergoglio is more pertinacious with regard to his heresies.  In fact, several resistance priests have referred to Bergoglio as "obdurate" in his "heresies".  That is the textbook definition of a formal heretic.  It's very very difficult to write Bergoglio off as a material heretic, Matthew.

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    « Reply #37 on: September 22, 2013, 08:02:58 PM »
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  • And, very honestly, the resistance priests do need to be called out on this.  They have referred to V2 as promoting heresy.  And they have referred to the V2 Popes as "obdurate" promoters of heresy.

    To be honest, Bishop Fellay is in fact more consistent in his position.

    I find it very difficult to hear Bishop Williamson constantly denouncing the value of "nitheness" (as he pronounces "niceness") and yet keep talking about how John Paul II, Benedict XVI, etc. were "sincere" and well-meaning but just confused.

    Bergoglio takes things to a new level, however; it's very obvious that he openly flaunts his rebelling against Tradition, i.e. he appears on the surface to be have crossed the threshold of pertinacity.  At least JP2 and B16 would profess the need to adhere to Tradition (despite their hermeneutical spin on it); Bergoglio flaunts Tradition.

    With that said, I still believe that there are problems with sedevacantism in that there must be more than private judgment involved in adopting that position, but that's a different angle than continuing to pretend that these people are Catholic.

    I believe that papa haereticus ipso facto depositus ab Ecclesia declarandus.




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    « Reply #38 on: September 23, 2013, 03:06:53 PM »
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  • I am close to being a sedevacantist, though I have never been anti-sedevacantist since I joined tradition a few years ago. I cannot call Francis a Catholic. Some people say that means that he cannot be a pope. I don't know. Francis is a destroyer and not a shepherd. If he is a shepherd he is a shepherd of wolves and is leading them to devour the sheep.

    P.S. I just learned today that two more members of my chapel are pro-Williamson but still attend Mass there because they consider it a better option than the indult or staying home (like me).
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    « Reply #39 on: September 23, 2013, 03:09:55 PM »
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  • Stgobnait posted this news from Ireland on another thread.

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    Reports are, that the neo sspx pilgrimage to Knock, was attended by a large crowd, from all over the country, but mostly, the mid-lands. the 'acting' superior was present, as was the new prior of athlone, fr mac donald, and fr gallagher. from some of the comments heard, we need not expect a resistance pilgrimage anytime soon.


    Should one distribute the letter still? A fairly public rebuke of the resistance.

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    « Reply #40 on: September 23, 2013, 11:13:25 PM »
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  • Quote from: Frances
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    For example even at the conference given by Bishop Williamson, despite hearing the facts and evidence, one lady present could not find anything wrong with what Bishop Fellay has said or done and spoke well of Bishop Fellay. I felt sorry for her.

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    Since I started attending  SSPX church about 10 years ago, I noticed that, unfortunately, many people are actually very pious, but very average intelligent... I'm afraid that they  are the backbone of all the parishes in North America...What priests would say from the pulpit, they will believe even that actually in 2012 the SSPX just cleared up  the hostile elements....


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    « Reply #41 on: September 24, 2013, 08:05:15 PM »
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    What an awesome letter from Fr. Hewko!

    He was just here at our house, too! My family and I spiritually benefited by his words, his example, and the two Masses he said here.

    I wish more people would have come out to listen to this very holy and courageous priest.

    We need to print out this letter and pass it around to friends, family, and fellow parishioners. Fr. Hewko was written a very sober, sane, balanced, Catholic, and informative letter. He has done a lot of the work for us. We just need to send this out, and hopefully those of good will can react accordingly.





    I second the motion --->  if I'm not already to late, that is.  
    But I would recommend one addition to the letter you print out to distribute:  


    Please copy Matthew's response, above, and paste it into the 3rd page
    of the print-out, because there is likely a little room at the second half
    of the page just begging for a little crowd applause.
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    God bless Fr. Hewko for his courage and for his RESPONSE to God's grace!

    And God Bless Matthew & Mater Dominici for providing this excellent website
    and for their meet recognition of this fighter for the Faith of our Fathers,

    Fr. David Hewko..............  let it be written............ and so let it be done.  



    And furthermore, to those who are receiving solicitations from Fr. Rostand et.al.,
    asking for more money, drop a copy of this Fr. Hewko letter in the envelope,
    with a short note explaining that you're taking a serious second look at the
    way you spend your Church budget allocation this year.  Maybe he'll notice that
    for a change....And then again, maybe not (Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast).

    ~Nl.Obs.




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    « Reply #42 on: September 24, 2013, 08:12:58 PM »
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    Father Hewko, a true son of Mary and son of Archbishop Lefebvre, expressed well the hearts of us who love and want to keep the Faith.  Fr. Hewko refers to Our Lady of Good Success regarding compromise.  This compromise within the SSPX is the same deadly acid used within the post-Conciliar Church that has lead to the great apostasy.  I would suffice to say this diabolical silence grew into the monster it is from the silencing of Our Lady of Fatima, particularly in 1959 when Pope John XXIII silenced the third secret.  

    It is clear that Rome is burning and SSPX leadership is fine just cozying up to the fire to warm itself as Peter did and proclaiming "I know not the man", while attempting to fashion SSPX into a comfy club of Catholic Tradition. Let us pray that SSPX leadership will also see the charitable rebuke from Our Lord as Peter did and weep for its sins.

    I pray for all of the Bishops, Priests, Religious and Faithful of SSPX in my Rosaries and will pray that Father Hewko's letter will get wide spread distribution to the priests and faithful.  I myself will help in this cause when the opportunity arises.

    For one I just received an appeal from the SSPX US District for financial support.  The enclosed letter from Fr. Rostand reads a bit like the Novus Ordo appeals from the local Diocese (see attached).  Before the SLIDE of SSPX into lukewarmness, with great gladness and joy I made contributions to a number of SSPX needs (Local chapel, Seminary, Monasteries, St. Mary's School and College) and purchased from Angelus Press.  Now we have to be told how to give.  We now mingle our sorrows with Fr. Hewko and all the Resistance priests for the direction SSPX leadership is going.

    We know "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph" so we must pray that the Lord's Will be done even, as Our Lady said in Quito, when all appears lost, then will be the time of her triumph.

    And in regards to Pope Francis, Bishop Williamson made an interesting point during his recent talk (I believe Sept 1, 2013, Our Lady of Fatima).  If Pope Benedict was forced to resign by the Masonic Order currently occupying the Vatican, then the election of Pope Francis may be invalid, leaving Benedict as Pope.  None the less, we must follow Our Lady's request to pray much for the Holy Father.

    Vivat Christus Rex!
    Patrick




    I see you just have two posts, LKCTexas.  Welcome to TexasInfo -- I mean, CathInfo.  

    I hope to see more posts like this, above.  

    Please consider adding a copy of Fr. Hewko's letter to any correspondence you
    may send to Fr. Rostand-and-Band.  If we all would do this simple thing, it
    would really make a difference.  Don't let the ball drop!  Pick it up and make a
    touchdown!  Fr. Hewko won't mind.  He's on our team... in fact, he threw the
    pass!  Go for it!  



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    « Reply #43 on: September 25, 2013, 06:58:05 PM »
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    He's on our team... in fact, he threw the
    pass!  Go for it!


    And certainly not your ordinary Hail Mary one either!


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    (Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast).


    As the Menzingen $$$ grabbers would sing..

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    with gold pieces, they are the best!"

    Good to see you again N of the O!

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