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Offline justG

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donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
« on: February 05, 2025, 12:15:04 PM »
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  • I am wondering if there will be a way to contribute towards funeral/burial expenses, or anything else that might be needed to help out?

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    Re: donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
    « Reply #1 on: February 05, 2025, 04:18:58 PM »
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  • The donations page on the Respice Stellam website is still active and donations can be made there towards the funeral costs.

    https://respicestellam.org/donations/


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    Re: donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
    « Reply #2 on: February 05, 2025, 08:42:10 PM »
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    Re: donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
    « Reply #3 on: February 06, 2025, 09:00:11 AM »
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  • I will say a better way to donate and contribute directly to Broadstairs is through His Lay Secretary's Bank


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    Re: donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
    « Reply #4 on: February 08, 2025, 04:27:47 PM »
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  • Wasn't the Feast of St. Francis de Sales a week and a half ago?
    Isn't the funeral date/time even planned yet?
    Are we out of the loop?

    Here 1 and a half weeks later, I know precisely and absolutely nothing about +W's wake, funeral Mass, burial, or anything along those lines. Past, present, or future.
    It could have already happened for all I know.

    Is his family keeping it private?

    This "Bishop Williamson", who died about a month earlier, is not "close enough". ;)
    https://www.fox13memphis.com/community/funeral-arrangements-announced-for-memphis-bishop-who-died-on-christmas/article_559ace3a-c523-11ef-a3c0-af3cf0bd3853.html
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    Re: donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
    « Reply #5 on: February 08, 2025, 04:56:40 PM »
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  • Wasn't the Feast of St. Francis de Sales a week and a half ago?
    Isn't the funeral date/time even planned yet?
    Are we out of the loop?

    Here 1 and a half weeks later, I know precisely and absolutely nothing about +W's wake, funeral Mass, burial, or anything along those lines. Past, present, or future.
    It could have already happened for all I know.

    Is his family keeping it private?

    This "Bishop Williamson", who died about a month earlier, is not "close enough". ;)
    https://www.fox13memphis.com/community/funeral-arrangements-announced-for-memphis-bishop-who-died-on-christmas/article_559ace3a-c523-11ef-a3c0-af3cf0bd3853.html
    Perhaps +Bp. W. himself prearranged to keep it private. If so, I can understand why. 

    He once quoted Alexander Pope’s “Ode on Solitude,” I don’t recall the context. The last stanza reads, 

    “Thus let me live, unseen, unknown;
       Thus unlamented let me die;
    Steal from the world, and not a stone,
       Tell where I lie.”

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    Re: donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
    « Reply #6 on: February 08, 2025, 05:08:43 PM »
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  • Hmmmmmmmmmmm?
    The talk is + Morgan is organizing the burial. UK regulations are opaque and complicated. Fr. Salenave joked a bit about 4 weeks!!!! I truly hope THAT doesn't happen.  Maybe getting the BBC to broadcast it live is the reason...LOL. How many 100's of thousands are patiently waiting. What would be a ballpark estimate on the number of followers H.E. Williamson had.? Are we part of the fake resistance? out of the loop?
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    Re: donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
    « Reply #7 on: February 08, 2025, 08:37:33 PM »
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  • I just got confirmation that there IS an issue with burial regulations and red tape in England. Typically, bodies are buried about 3-6 weeks after death. Not just priests and bishops -- anyone.
    There is one certificate that takes 10 days, then another certificate which also takes about 10 days. THEN you go to a funeral home, and see what openings they have.
    So yeah -- patience is the order of the day.

    P.S. In the Anglican world (the dominant religion in England) most bodies are cremated. So the huge delay causes them less inconvenience than it normally would.
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    Re: donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
    « Reply #8 on: February 09, 2025, 12:04:00 AM »
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  • In England when a person dies in hospital, as Bishop Williamson did, a medical certificate detailing the cause of death is issued electronically by the hospital within 48 hours. That enters the registration system. The next of kin, or other person associated with the deceased, then has to register the death with the local registrar - local to where the person died. The Registrar then issues the death certificate and what used to be called the 'green form' is sent, electronically, to the chosen funeral director. That happens usually within a week.

    A bigger issue in the case of Bishop Williamson's funeral is a logistic one.  The Resistance does not have any churches so where can the funeral take place?  If several hundred faithful, or more, are expected to attend the funeral cannot take place at the chapel of the late Bishop's house in Broadstairs or in some community centre room.  I rather doubt somewhere like Westminster Cathedral is going to offer to host the funeral! Nor is the SSPX going to offer the use of its, small, church in London. The UK district has still not mentioned the Bishop in its 'recently deceased' notices. 

    I would suggest finding a suitable venue for the funeral rites is going to be a significant organisational challenge and take some considerable planning, and time.

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    Re: donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
    « Reply #9 on: February 09, 2025, 08:58:32 AM »
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  • I would suggest finding a suitable venue for the funeral rites is going to be a significant organisational challenge and take some considerable planning, and time.
    As I have said elsewhere, this is particularly difficult in Starmer's woke Labour Britain. No venue will want to host Msgr. Williamson's funeral because that venue opposes what Williamson represents or fears reprisals from the Left.

    I would not be surprised were the funeral to be held in Ireland or France or even the USA. This is entirely speculation but realistic.
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    Re: donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
    « Reply #10 on: February 09, 2025, 12:37:25 PM »
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  • As I have said elsewhere, this is particularly difficult in Starmer's woke Labour Britain. No venue will want to host Msgr. Williamson's funeral because that venue opposes what Williamson represents or fears reprisals from the Left.

    I would not be surprised were the funeral to be held in Ireland or France or even the USA. This is entirely speculation but realistic.

    How I'd love for him to be in USA.  I could see thousands showing up, since he was rector of STAS for so many years and influenced so many people for the good.  I'd find a way to get there myself even if it were the opposite side of the country.  How about Winona?

    But the most logical place would be France.


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    « Reply #11 on: February 09, 2025, 03:27:00 PM »
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  • If you're going to cross borders with the Bishop's mortal remains, I'd suggest the USA. It was his adopted home, as it were. He was quite at home here, and really took to America and various Americanisms. Just for starters, it's another English speaking country and let's face it, that's the Bishop's best language. Even though he was quite an impressive polyglot. His native tongue is still his native tongue.

    But think of how many years he lived, worked, and made friends here. I think the Bishop really enjoyed the variety of regions here in America, getting to see so many "samples" at the seminary in Winona. I know I enjoyed it. We had one gentleman who was a bona-fide cowboy from Wyoming. He was an Irish tenor, knew how to yodel, play the guitar, was very tall and skinny, and even released an album. And he managed a huge cattle ranch on horseback. He was only at the seminary a couple years, but I was glad to have met him. I'm not really in touch with him today, but I heard he did get married.

    Then there are the guys from Oregon (wood experts), down to earth guys from rural Louisiana, a few guys from New York complete with the accent, some Midwesterners like myself, some seminarians from northern Cali, etc.

    I'm sure the Bishop enjoyed the "microcosm" of America as much as I did.
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    Re: donations to assist with +W funeral. etc?
    « Reply #12 on: February 09, 2025, 06:02:23 PM »
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  • Wasn't his mother of American heritage? 

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    « Reply #13 on: February 09, 2025, 07:02:56 PM »
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  • Wasn't his mother of American heritage?
    Yes, she was, but remained Anglican, so far as I know. 
    You gotta a problem wi’ dat?

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    « Reply #14 on: February 09, 2025, 07:34:14 PM »
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  • If you're going to cross borders with the Bishop's mortal remains, I'd suggest the USA. It was his adopted home, as it were. He was quite at home here, and really took to America and various Americanisms. Just for starters, it's another English speaking country and let's face it, that's the Bishop's best language. Even though he was quite an impressive polyglot. His native tongue is still his native tongue.

    THIS ^^^

    Only question here would be whether we could avail ourselves of a facility of sufficient size and dignity.  Don't the French Resistance have some facilities?

    Perhaps we could just pull a Saint-Nicholas du Chardonette and take over Winona.

    In a way, I believe that His Excellency was more at home in the US than he was even in England.  I think he realized that England was much farther gone than the US due to the principle of corruptio optimi pessima, and that he found an acceptance and respect here that he could not get in Europe.

    I bet we would get attendance in the thousands in the United States if he came here for the funeral.  I'd drive up there all night myself and bring family.  Perhaps he could be laid to rest in the cemetery adjacent to the seminary grounds that we often strolled through on walks (I went through their with His Excellency several times).

    See, shouldn't the SSPX have imbibed enough of Bergoglio's mercifullness and humbility as to at least permit Bishop Williamson to be laid to rest at Winona, even though a "prodigal child"?

    How about asking many of the US priests to speak up and get the ear of Father Fullerton, who knew Bishop Williamson very very well, and to allow us to have the funeral at Winona and lay him to rest near the seminary grounds?

    If there's any interest, I know Fr. John Fullerton (he was my task-master when I was at STAS) and would be happy to call him up myself and make the request, as well as some other relatively-well-known priests who I know respect Bishop Williamson.

    SSPX could at least give him some respect, at least as being of +Lefebvre's legacy and their own history, while still maintaining the plausible deniability of "well, he's there at a cemetery in the brothers' property now, due to the charity we offered him on account of his having nowhere else to be interred".