Author Topic: DONACHIE ON GEOCENTRISM (Read 1991 times)

cantatedomino · « **on:** February 22, 2014, 03:56:04 PM »

Donachie is a CI member who posted some very interesting things on this forum last year. I found a bunch of his stuff on the file Patricius sent me. I had imported it to the Earthmovers thread there. There is so much I think it is best to give him his own thread.

cantatedomino · « **Reply #1 on:** February 22, 2014, 03:57:29 PM »

DONACHIE: ... gavisa est et exultavit Isaiah 14:7

This is another verse from the Bible that supports geocentrism. "The whole earth is quiet and still, it is glad and hath rejoiced."

Heliocentrism is a heresy. However, without referencing the Bible or the faith, there are a number of conversational points that can fairly and clearly establish the absolute scientific validity of geocentrism over heliocentrism.

The first I should mention is about the sun. Heliocentrism today would have the Sun going six different speeds at once, when the truth is that it can only go in one direction and at one speed per time.

Because of the synchronized and complex movements of the heavens, heliocentrism today has it going six different speeds at once, which is impossible. At any given time, it is always only one measure of distance away from the Earth and at one point in the sky and in space.

The sun is not ever in two different places at the same time, and it cannot move away from itself. It is a simple body in space that can have only one direct motion of progress that is conformable to the whole, yet it is supposedly going (1) 560,000 mph around the galactic core, and then (2) 827,670 mph in view of the CMB, the cosmic microwave background radiation.

Then it also is supposedly going an estimated (3) 43,200 to 45,000 mph towards Lambda Herculis, and simultaneously added to that it is moving upwards from the plane of the Milky Way at (4) 15,658 mph. In addition to these four simultaneous speeds, it is supposedly going (5) 1,235,000 to 1,410,00 mph with the Milky Way around a localized group of distant galaxies, and for the sixth speed it is supposedly going around 2,184,000 mph with the Hubble flow around the "Great Atractor," which does not have a specific location or center.

This is absurd. The truth is there is no logical justification for saying the Sun goes six different speeds at once.

cantatedomino · « **Reply #2 on:** February 22, 2014, 03:58:29 PM »

DONACHIE: They also have the Earth supposedly going many different speeds at once. According to heliocentrism the Earth is orbiting the sun at an estimated rate of (1) 66,600 mph, or 29.80 km/s, and it is also supposedly orbiting the galactic core, with the sun and the solar system, at anywhere from (2) 492,130 to 446,000 mph. In addition to these divergences, with the sun and the solar system, it also is supposedly moving towards the constellation Hercules and the star Lambda Herculis at (3) 43,200 mph and moving upwards at about 90 degrees to the plane of the Milky Way Galaxy at (4) 15,624 mph.

Chaotically this could represent altogether a total figure for Earth flight velocity of 572,862 to 618,592 mph. If this would be all for totaling the chaos of heliocentrism and its insane version for what makes a day on Earth go round, it would be close but it would be coming up a little bit short. It is also going (5)827,670 mph with respect to the cosmic microwave background radiation, the CMB, and orbiting with the Milky Way Galaxy a more distant localized group of galaxies, away off in the distance, at an estimated rate anywhere from 1,230,330 to 1,339,200 mph.

Three of the signs that remove any logical possibilities for heliocentrism are the universal 24 hour day, the spherical curvature of the Earth, and the magnitude and nature of the cosmos. Since the 24 hour day is universal on Earth, heliocentrism also must have the Earth spinning at many different speeds along its latitudes, as the dimensions of circuмference change according to parallels. But this is not logically or physcially possible unless the Earth is coming apart in motion. If heliocentrism were in occurrence, the Earth would be flying apart all whithers like a flock of scared crows in the "Omen."

cantatedomino · « **Reply #3 on:** February 22, 2014, 03:59:34 PM »

DONACHIE: A simple body like the Earth, or the sun and the moon, cannot go two or more different speeds at once and be in two or more different places at the same time. Any given instance of motion in a simple body will always be at one measure per time. But heliocentrism 2012 would have the Earth going forward in loops, six distinct speeds at once, and spinning simultaneously at many different velocities all along its different latitudes.

And with nobody noticing? This is impossible. Not even satellites have been able to detect any motion of the Earth.

Being composed together in a simple body with “haecceitas”, all points on Earth are mathematically of the same unitary distribution, as in a sphere. Even if it is a wooded, earthen, and somewhat aquatic sphere, in terms of any worldwide motion and worldwide affects, if any place on Earth spins, then it all spins. If any place on Earth does not rotate, then none of it rotates. If any place on Earth goes any one speed, then all of it goes that same speed, and it cannot fly through the universe at many different speeds at once. In terms of natural science and philosophy, the Earth is one simple body. It is the one and only one that it is. It is one true media. Incidentals and accidentals like the seven seas and varying terrain, from the Grand Canyon to Mt. McKinley, etc., do not change the substantial priority that the Earth is one, and it is the only one that it is, and it is therefore truly a simple body in space. It has a simple quality of identification in itself that Duns Scotus would have called, for a philosophical rule, “haecceitas,” which means “thisness,” as in “this that is unique.” It is a distinction of authenticity. Haecceitas is a common property of all simple bodies and simple motions in space, and the Earth has it.

Being one ample ball of wax, with “haecceitas”, the Earth can only go one speed at a time with a uniform motion that is conformable to the whole. If the Earth had a movement which was common to it, such as orbiting the sun, it could not go many different speeds at once. If the Earth were moving, it must be moving essentially at one simple and uniform speed per time, otherwise the terra firma would be moving apart from itself in many separable parts and that way the terra firma would be coming apart in motion. If instead of remaining in place, the Earth moves to match the planets and stars, then it will move at many tremendous and contrary astronomical velocities at once, and it cannot do that while remaning a cohesive mass, but if it were it would be only in fragments.

Part of the difficulty for opponents of geocentrism is that the magnitude of the cosmos is on a gigantic scale compared with the Earth, and for the Earth to be orbiting the sun in synchronization with the planets and distant stars requires the Earth to have these six different speeds applied to it at once, not even counting the rpd’s for all the different latitudes. This is logically and physically impossible. It is ridiculous.

In his day, William Gilbert made a typical and stupid argument in support of a variation of the Copernican system, stating that in his opinion it was an absurdity to think that the immense celestial spheres rotate daily, as opposed to the diurnal rotation of the much smaller earth.

When skeptical people like Gilbert have thought it is better to assume that the Earth revolves, because the Sun and the stars are "so big and so far away"; and it is, therefore, more reasonable to assume the Earth is moving rather than the stars, they do not realize what a bad switch they have made. They have naively imagined that it is not reasonable to assume that the distant stars all go around the Earth in a day, because they are so far away and would have to go so fast; but they do not admit that to assume the Earth revolves and orbits the Sun instead, only transfers the immense celestial motions of the distant stars to the Earth, then making the Earth have to carry out astronomically gigantic and contradictory motions at once, which are contradictory and logically and physically impossible without the Earth coming apart.

It is like a stereo turn table can only go one speed at a time. Like a record player, a ball or a solid sphere with density like the Earth can only spin one speed at a time. Even with the oceans, the land masses are substantial enough that it is the same with the Earth. To account for the universal 24 hour day, the Earth cannot be spinning at many different speeds all along its latitudes at once; but this sort of idiocy, that the Earth should be flying and spinning through space around the Sun at many different speeds at once, is what heliocentrism would have you believe. This way the spherical curvature of the Earth and the universal 24 hour day prove that the Earth is not moving, and that the Sun orbits the Earth.

cantatedomino · « **Reply #4 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:00:58 PM »

DONACHIE: Spheres form a category of simple bodies that have unique geometrical properties as a class that no other figures outside of this class have. The motion of a sphere is simple, and any simple motion of a simple body is conformable as a whole to the point of origin of its motion. It is like a cue ball or baseball can only go one speed at a time and be in one place at a time. No matter how twisted or how tricky or how curved its course, the essential uniformity of motion in a solid sphere, that is not coming apart, is a natural law of physics. It is one conbobulation, one spherical wheel, and the trickiest trick shot or knuckleball cannot defy this. The motion must start in one place and end in one place, having essential uniformity of motion from the causae per se, the efficient cause, the whole way, going only one uniform speed at a time and being in one place at a time.

A basketball that is being spun always spins at one uniform speed. The speed of the basketball’s spin may increase or decrease, but it is always going one simple speed all together at a time. However much English is on the ball, it is on the whole ball. It is that simple. If someone put a little motorized pin in a baseball, the whole baseball will rotate conformably with the singular speed being applied to it per time by the pin’s engine, even as the speeds are increased or decreased. There could be settings from fast to slow, and fastest to slowest. Whatever the setting is, that is how fast the ball spins. If morally poor knuckleheads from NASA, the UN, the “Federal” Reserve banking conspiracy, the Bank of England, Libor, and the Bank for International Settlements, who cannot understand or admit this, raced around with office chairs with spherical wheels and crashed into walls blind as bats and went out the windows off cliffs, with all the world’s debt money and financial docuмents in tow, it would be the same.

Every curve in 3-D space proceeds one integral point at a time, like code, and every point along its line is one solution at a time, otherwise even curves and tricks lose their form and come apart. Even the worst ones full of sound and fury and violent idiocies unleashed.

For some examples of the problems involved in heliocentrism, Quito, Ecuador is at the Equator, where cosine (0) = 1, and where the circuмference of the Earth is 24,902 miles. For velocity of rotation, therefore, divide by the 24 hour day and the acceleration of the Earth there will be 1038 mph per diem in Quito. Manhattan and the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic controlled UN compound are at the 40th parallel North, that also runs through Spain and the border between Kansas and Nebraska. Therefore, take the cosine of 40” and multiply that into the circuмference of the Earth and divide by the 24 hour day. That way, one way will find a velocity of 795 mph for the UN compound and the entire route of the 40th parallel North. 795 mph is 76% of 1038, matching the cosine of a 40 degree angle, etc. Wow, those are fast numbers for spin! When was the last time you went 795 mph with your hat and sunglasses on and did not notice?

For more exact numbers to decimal places, when computing heliocentric spins, all that is needed are minutes and seconds of arc of latitude added to degress. For example, in the case of Manhattan, the complete latitude with minutes and seconds of arc is 40”47’24, which brings a more precise rotational velocity of 785.5637707372525 mph. With the uniform curvatures of arcs of latitude around the Earth, these numbers can seem to run on and on almost like Pi; and even with only small changes in distance North or South, one will soon discover immediate changes in spinning speeds.

It has been said that four out of three people who visit the UN today still have trouble with fractions and cannot remember trigonometry, but another way to look at the situation there is to understand that Manhattan is landing in Salamanca, Spain, as it were, at least in principle if not the scenery, in around a four and a half hour trip, five times a day. Look out Don Quixote, at the 40th parallel Manhattan is spinning 795 mph into the Eastern spaces, or 1165 feet per second, which is about 250 mph faster than a commercial jet flight.

Look out there, and the situation becomes more impossible and ridiculous when longitude is remembered. For example, St. Petersburg, Russia and Alexandria, Egypt are both very close to the 30th Meridian East, exactly. They are situated practically right on it, and they are always there, but Alexandria further to the South is going 368 mph faster all the time than St. Petersburg to the North. One could imagine that with enough time Alexandria would eventually break away and St. Petersburg would fall behind, but even with all the years it never happens. These two old cities have always remained on the exact same line of meridian, even though they are supposedly flying through space at speeds with 368 mph of difference with Alexandria at 887.3553114207156 mph from 31”13’N to St. Petersburg’s 519.749781017243 from 59”56’20N.

According to heliocentrism, even though the latitudes are supposedly all traveling at different speeds, somehow the longitudes and their neighborhoods never get mixed up. This is something a little bit too junky, if not impossible, for a reasonable person to believe. It is a mission statement for zombies. If the Earth spins at different and separable speeds along its latitudes, it should be separating and coming apart, but it is not. If the Earth were in motion in space, orbiting the sun, it would have to be with a uniform motion conformable to the whole, otherwise it would be coming apart.

cantatedomino · « **Reply #5 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:02:00 PM »

DONACHIE: If looking at a map with the 30th Meridian highlighted through the Gulf of Finland and the Black and Mediterranean Seas could leave any doubts, for some reason, maybe from uncertainty and anxiety from some volatility of the waters in between, then consider a set of 8 cities of 4 Meridians on contiguous territory, with no shaky boats in between.

{Acapulco, Mexico: 16”51’49N, 99”52’57W @992.965193260843 mph}
{Isachsen, Canada: 78”46’59N, 103”29’59W @201.8353239407114 mph}

{Maracaibo, Venzuela: 10”39’N, 71”38’W @1019.7103966946445 mph}
{Punta Arenas, Chile: 53”10’S, 70”56”W @622.0201515793425 mph}

{Angarsk, Russia: 52”34’N, 103”49’E @630.682483333274 mph}
{Singapore, China: 1”22’N, 103”48’E @1037.2881768418685 mph}

{Alexandria, Egypt: 31”13’N, 29”58’E @887.3553114207156 mph}
{Durban, South Africa: 29”53’S, 31”03’E @899.6280343062893 mph}

And if any of these well connected locations traded places and went as fast as some other, like Quito, Ecuador (00”15’ S, 78”35’ W @ 1038 mph) or St. Petersburg, Russia (59”57’ N, 30”19’ E @ 519. 749781017243 mph) it would no doubt mess up their days and nights even more, all year.

St. Petersburg, Russia is so close to the 60th parallel and cosine .5 that it would have a 12 hour day and night, if it went as fast as Quito. This means that during the summer solstice the sun would be visible for 9 hours and 26 minutes, not 18 hours and 52 minutes; and during the winter solstice, the sun would be visible for 2 hours and 56 minutes, not 5 hours and 52 minutes.

Because of the spherical curvature of the Earth and the universal 24 hour day, heliocentrism is all out of sorts and forever hoisting itself with its own petard. Not only does it subvert space as it undermines common sense, it subverts time.

If every place were spinning as fast as Quito, instead of the universal 24 hour day throughout the seasons, there would be a very different terrestrial experience worldwide. For a few examples, Manhattan and Salamanca would have an 18 hour and 6 minute day; Paris would have a 15 hour and 44 minute day; Alexandria, Egypt would have a 20 hour and 33 or 34 minute day; St. Petersburg, Russia would have a 12 hour day; Augusta, Georgia would have a 20 hour and 7 minute day; and Vancouver, British Columbia would have a 15 hour and 44 or 45 minute day … throughout the seasons.

If Quito, on the other hand, were going as slow as Manhattan and Salamanca, it would then be having a 31 hour and 45 or 46 minute day; as slow as Paris it would be having a 35 hour and 52 or 53 minute day; as slow as Alexandria, Egypt it would be a 28 hour day; if it were trucking along like St. Petersburg, Russia, it would be swerving around at 46 hours and 37 or 38 minutes per day; if it was like Augusta, Georgia, it would then be 28 hours and 45 minutes, and if it was moving like Vancouver, British, Columbia, it would be enjoying an expansive day of 37 hours and 46 or 47minutes all year … throughout the seasons.

Not only is heliocentrism always hoisting itself with its own petard, it is always falling on the wrong side of Occam’s razor, that plurality should not be posited without necessity, “pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate.”

In putting time before space for the sake of the universal 24 hour day,
heliocentrism tries to separate elements that on Earth and in nature cannot be separated. Time necessitates space and space necessitates time. Like the two sides of Occam’s razor, there cannot be one without the other, and the multitude of orders that arise and operate between them are comprised of all the many options in work and energy.

We have time because everything cannot take place at the same time. Everything cannot occur instantaneously and natural motion cannot take place in an instant. We have space because everything cannot occur in the same place. We have energy because there is no time or space without some quality. Nothing that exists exists without some quality of being, and there is no quality of being without formal energy … and there can be no energy without its quality of being. For example, light is energy that illuminates time and characterizes space.

One way to simplify this is to go back to Algebra class with old Ouraboros, the dragon who swallows his tail, and recall the universal old formula d = r x t. Distance is space, time is time, and rate is energy. This old formula is a universal sign for how all measurable things work, whether near or far, and on whatever plane or sphere they may be. Time, space, and energy are the big three in common and form a natural trinity wherever they go. Yet for the sake of appearances and the universal 24 hour day, which are undeniable, heliocentrism puts time illogically before space and makes a welter of confusion out of all normal weights and measures.

But let some of the wisdom and judgment that could help solve this elementary school matter also be in people’s feet and common sense experience of life on Earth. If people can notice things like leverage and momentum of mechanical advantage in merry-go-rounds and Ferris wheels, how could they not notice if the Earth were rolling along like a bowling ball through their immediate space at massive speeds?

As far as the ridiculous theory of the "undetectable motion of the Earth" is
concerned, would people not notice if the Earth were flying apart in pieces at the seams? It simply is impossible that people notice when loose ground moves under their feet, but they would not notice the Earth wheeling around and flying into celestial space, especially when such motions would make the Earth come apart. If people would not notice the Earth rolling along, with an “undetectable motion”, at many different astronomical speeds at once, would they not notice it being torn asunder from so much stress?

Even down till today, in fact, unless there is an earthquake, a volcanic eruption, a rockslide, an avalanche or a storm, the Earth is quiet and has a stillness about it all day. People on golf courses have noticed this. In golf, they say it is an easy game, because “the ball’s not moving,” when it’s time to hit it, and neither is the Earth, of course. They all have to be quiet when a fellow gets ready to hit, and it is always like the Earth is already completely quiet before them. Think of anything that could not get more quiet. Any scene that could not get more quiet and have less noise can fit the Earth. The Bible says, “conquievit et siluit omnis terra, gavisa est, et exultavit,” “the whole Earth is quiet and still, it is glad and hath rejoiced.” Isaiah 14:7

People are not dumb when they notice the total stillness and silence of it, and nobody ever notices the Earth making a motion or a sound, as it undoubtedly would if it were orbiting the sun. Instead people can almost hear a pin drop anywhere things get really quiet.

cantatedomino · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:04:46 PM »

DONACHIE: There will be voices that will cry out "gravity, oh gravity, universal gravitation and inertia, and relativity make heliocentrism scientifically valid," but these cries are for delusional dreamers. Gravity is by far the weakest of forces. It is weaker than the littlest refrigerator magnet or tiny kitten. In fact, it is so weak that it is not a force of any significant practical measure in real physics.

Gravity is not a lateral force at all, and, since the Earth is a sphere, it is not even a vertical force either. In fact, gravity is not a force at all. It is merely a coextensive attribute of being. It is merely a coextensive attribute of things that are around the cosmos and around the Earth in quale quid. And relativity is utter nonsense, and without Newton's gravity and Einstein's relativity, heliocentrism is all out of luck.

Newton had "F" and "G," and Einstein had "E" and "C," and the truth is they were both wrong. The simple fact is that the Sun and the Moon orbit the Earth, and the Earth is not revolving.

George Berkeley, an 18th century British philosopher, observed, “esse est percipi vel percipere,” “to be is perceived or perceiving.” If the Earth were really rotating and orbiting the sun, spinning and spinning, flying through space, why is it that it is never perceived? How can that be when no one ever perceives it at all?

What I love about this is that it brings home what our ET author has been saying: Movement is sensible. The report of the senses is necessary for the apprehension of material reality. The religion of contradiction requires the suspension of both common sense and the report of the five senses. We are to believe fiction rather than the powers and faculties endowed on human nature.

In the wilderness of modern life today, with so many horrendous lies and abuses from the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic NWO, keen perception would be like gold, “Perceptio aurum.” Modern people and animals would live and die by their wits. In the wild or in the city, they live and die by what they perceive and do. The most acute perceptions can sense many things, but never that the Earth is wheeling around in space, making gigantic numbers in time like some strange bats out of hidden NASA caves and secrets in Nevada, the “Federal” Reserve, and Wall Street.

If a golf course and a small local airport lost their radial Earth-flight velocity in gradual steps of 40 mph, at what point could people start to tell what was going on?

Augusta National at 33”30’ N and at 865 mph daily spin, could lose all of its angular velocity in a day like that, if it only lost 36 mph to an hour. At 36 x 24 = 864, Augusta, Georgia would have only 1 mph left to spare at the end of the day.

On such a day as that, over a 4 ½ hour round of golf, a foursome out on the course, and sometimes in the pines and in the water, could lose 144 mph of the terrestrial momentum from the rotation for their latitude, and nobody would notice? If they came back later the next day, the golf course and the local airport would not be moving.

It would be “The Day the Earth Stood Still” out there, unless they were skidding through space at 66,600 mph and the 5 other speeds, without their rotation that they had lost, and what would that seem like? Presumably they could not notice the skidding and bumping and crashing through space of the Earth then, without its spinning around, anymore than they could not notice any of it before, with all the counter-clockwise spinning. One could guess it would seem like it always had before, before they lost the spin, since it never seemed like the Earth was really moving or rotating at all in the first place.

If the Earth did not lose its spin and some perceptive people went on a vacation and played golf at the Shaughnessy Heights Golf Club in Vancouver British Columbia at 49”13’27 N, therefore with 677.6469766684105 mph daily radial velocity, and then they went to El Condado Golf and Tennis Club in Quito, Ecuador, at the Equator, therefore with 1038 mph daily radial velocity, would they not notice the difference in playing conditions between these courses?

If Quito lost half its motor one day, would nobody notice? A 519 mph drop? That would be to the tune of the 60th parallel and Helsinki, Finland. Strange days around the Earth indeed either way.

If they went to Tromso Golf Park at Breivikeidet near Tromso, Norway, at latitude 69”39’30 N, therefore with 360.6822404339137 mph daily radial velocity, and then to The Billy Joss Golf Club in Ulukhaktok, in Canada’s Northwest Territories, set in tundra off the Amundsen Gulf in the Beaufort Sea at latitude 70”44’11 N, therefore with 342.314214650617 mph daily radial velocity, would they not begin to notice the different ways the Earth was supposedly turning in different places. How could it not be a part of the way the game was being played?

Going to the 75th parallel of the Arctic Circle, only shag bags and no golf course in the wilderness, it would be a 769 mph drop from El Condado in Quito.

What they might notice one day is that, in terms of Earth spins, everywhere they go it actually seems like the North and South pole and “The Day the Earth Stood Still,” because the North and South poles are at 90” N and 90” S, respectively, and, therefore, have a cosine value of (0), which should mean they are not spinning, since the Earth supposedly does not spin all at one speed but according to parallels. From a 90” angle from the Equator and cosine value of (0), they are in place with a (0) mph spin, which is no spinning action. It would be like the poles are not rotating but held stationary in space. Unless (0) mph is in motion, they are not revolving; and (0) mph is not in motion. Could anybody wait at the starting line of a Formula One Race better than at (0) mph?

When people have been misled into believing in heliocentrism and that the Earth orbits the sun, they have imagined that its motion is undetectable and, therefore, that it is also “slow.” They have dreamed that the Earth is turning and moving slowly in space, so slowly that they do not notice it revolving from day to changing day.

As the old gyroscope huckster himself, Foucault, wrote in the “Journal de Debats,” on March 31, 1851, that the “slowness” of the “movement of the Earth” … “requires us to turn to well-developed methods” for recognition of it. (1)p.156 But this is not really reasonable. In view of the magnitude of the cosmos, if the Earth were moving round and round in it to account for the passing of day and night, and the seasons and the years, it would necessarily have to be moving at an enormous astronomical rate, incredibly fast and immediate to all locations on Earth, which obviously it is not. The supposed motion of the Earth is not immediate nor detectable, which makes it seem so incredibly slow, as if it is not in occurrence.

As Ptolemy wisely had said so long before, if the Earth were orbiting the sun, it would have a massive circuit to keep, and it would have a massive astronomical velocity greater than that of all the other motions taking place across it, since it would have to be making so great a circuit in so short a time. Thus the bodies which are not at rest on it would always appear to have motions much less and contrary to its own, and all motions on Earth would be surpassed and left behind by the Earth’s greater weight and momentum. All animals and loose objects, therefore, like leaves and Dandelion seed heads, butterflies, birds, squirrels, and arrows, etc. would fail to go eastward without great difficulty, because the Earth would be spinning away from underneath them, tremendously. They would forever be falling behind the Earth’s overwhelming flight into the Eastern sky. After the exhaustion of so much torque and so many days of heliocentric madness, all would tend to fall back to the West. Even the buildings and trees would become worn out from it after some time and fall back to the West due to the erosive effects of occidental dilapidation.

For an illustration of the problems of heliocentrism, if someone had a globe of the Earth in his library that was a little more than a yard in circuмference, and he made an honest bet of one million dollars that no one could spin it in scale as fast as the Earth is supposedly spinning around the sun, how could he lose the bet?

All the losers believing in the heresy of heliocentrism would have to try to spin it and spin it fast. They may not realize how fast they would have to spin it to spin it in scale and make it spin like the Earth. It would be at least 474 times around per second. Who could make it spin around completely 474 times per second to keep it modeled in scale?

No one and nobody. There is not even a machine that could make a globe of one yard circuмference spin around completely 474 times a second. A
quadrigenti-septuaquattuorgesimatrix of a second, I/ CDLXXIV, a one to 474th second rate. This could also remind people how correct old Aristotle was to say that natural movement cannot take place in an instant, and that the Earth is not moving and does not orbit the sun.

However, a wiser fellow who knows Aristotle, Plato, Ptolemy and the Bible may win the bet by not spinning it at all. Spin it at 0 mph, like the North and South pole, and it will come out spinning as fast and in scale as the Earth.

If there are any doubts that the Earth is not moving and, therefore, is not orbiting the sun, just place an interferometer under the center of any working Foucault pendulum. If the Earth were moving, the results would not be the same, and if the Earth were flying in space making time to orbit the sun, it would drive all the golfers and the birds insane. It would derange everything. It would be hopeless, woeful, and utter confusion.

TAKE NOTE!!! They did move the Earth in the minds of men. In the minds of men, the Earth is spinning and hurtling through random space. TAKE NOTE that this earthmoving has caused untold corrosive effects in the psychological, social, political, cultural, and religious spheres of human activity. Due to belief in the operation of error, men are become "insane, deranged, hopeless, woeful, and utterly confused."

It would destroy all the butterflies and the trees. If the Earth were flying around like heliocentrism requires, it would destroy all the delicate trees first and then destroy the stronger ones. There are pines and
spruce, olive and nutmeg trees, junipers and oaks that are hundreds and sometimes thousands of years old. They could never survive so long under the cosmic strain created by the Earth having to orbit the sun.

It would put everything out of order.

TAKE NOTE!!! Modernity is best defined as the utter destruction of the arch orders of Nature and Grace!

Birds leaving their nests in the morning would not be able to find them in the evening. A condor over the Andes would find himself lost over the Pacific Ocean in no time. Hunting rabbits would become too much to do for hawks, eagles, and falcons. The birds could not build nests in the trees wheeling around, if they were not coming apart. To barely get by would become impossible, and the dragonflies and little creatures of the forest would go extinct as well. It would be a disaster. They would all go extinct, having been wiped out long ago, under the careening stresses of a mixed-up heliocentric universe.

Death where is thy sting?

It is unscientific, and mathematically, logically, and physically impossible for the Earth to be orbiting the sun without flying apart all whithers like a flock of scared birds. It has been beyond passing a little bit of strangeways and strange brew to believe that the Earth orbits the sun, and all the time, wherever you go, there you are, and the Earth is always the most massive thing closest to home, and it always seems at ease … like it is not in motion, like it is at rest. If they said all the numbers were different tomorrow, what difference could it make? It always seems like the terra firma is at rest anyway. And through all this?

cantatedomino · « **Reply #7 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:05:54 PM »

DONACHIE: There's more to this subject but to summarize, the Earth is a sphere. It is not an "oblate spheroid." It does not have an "equatorial bulge." It is not squeezed in at the polar caps, and the 24 hour day is universal across the Earth. Therefore, the Earth is not spinning to account for the 24 hour day, because if it were it would be spinning at one speed conformable to the whole, and then the 24 hour day would no longer be universal.

So heliocentrics say the Earth is spinning at different speeds all along its latitudes to account for the universal 24 hour day. But this is not possible without the Earth coming apart. The Earth is not coming apart, so far, and nobody and no scientific experiment has ever been able to detect any flight or rotation of the Earth.

"Gravity" cannot account for any of this, and the inertial frame of reference that is the Earth is not "relative." It is authentic.

Also, a simple body cannot move away from itself and cannot be going multiple speeds at once. Because of the vast size of the cosmos and the motions of the stars, heliocentrism has the Sun going six different speeds at once, and the Earth as well. This is impossible. The Sun is in one place at a time, and it is going one speed at a time, and it is always only one measure of distance away from the Earth. That measure of distance may change, and it does, over a range, but it is still in one place at a time and going one speed at a time, as it is only one measure of distance away from the Earth per time.

This means the Sun is orbiting the Earth in a range of circles, not in an ellipse.

Heliocentrism is not scientifically valid, and it is a heresy.

All the stuff from Einstein and Newton and the stuff about "light years" is nonsense. The stars are in real places in real time as they orbit the Earth. When it is Tuesday, it is Tuesday all day, and the stars you see Tuesday night are in real time per real locations, as they go ranging around the Earth in circles.

NASA has never landed on the Moon, and they have never landed a rover on Mars. All their deep space missions are billion dollar'd ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic frauds.

They have the Moon going the wrong way and orbiting the Earth in almost 28 days, for the sake of heliocentric theory. They are possibly insane where they are not blatantly criminal. The Moon goes from East to West around the Earth, clockwise when viewed from above the North pole, every 24 hours and 50 minutes.

cantatedomino · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:07:40 PM »

DONACHIE: If some cogitators would like to analyze the essential uniformity of motion in a solid sphere further, because having had experience of things like merry-go-rounds and Ferris wheels, they say that when a big spinning wheel is going around, it feels different on the outside from the inside, because the outside is going faster, it should be remembered that motion is a quality, and, as a quality, it is a derivative of the origin of its source. Four of the basic qualities identified by the ancient Greeks were hot or cold and wet or dry. These first four also corresponded to the four elements: hot-fire, cold-Earth, wet-water, and dry-air.

The four basic qualities and elements are dipolar across a natural continuum. Operating like elementals in binary codes, they characterize the way things are, and there are more, like bitter or sweet and rest or motion. They exist in nature as essential characters and signs, and, by the terms of their own self-adhering propositions, they are simply being what they are and doing what they do.

If it may seem of little value to say that motion is an elemental quality like hot or cold and wet or dry, it is because heliocentrism and relativity, from Galileo to Einstein, would have everybody fooled and everything in motion, and nothing at rest. The reason for saying again that motion is a quality in contrast to rest is that after so many years in the land of the lost, the abyss of heliocentrism and relativity, from Galileo to Einstein and the UN, authenticity itself has become of little or no value across the board. Authenticity has been buried under a flood of uncertainties and deception.

Paradigmatic doubt and contradiction underpin the anti-metaphysics of the NWO.

Contrary to heliocentrism and relativity, however, everything is not in motion, and motion is in contrast to rest, as hot is to cold and dry is to wet. Contrary to relativity and heliocentrism, everything in the universe is not in motion, especially the Earth, which is at rest.

Thank you. I've been trying, clumsily, to say this for some time now. If motion exists, then, by necessity, so does absolute rest. Otherwise there can be no measurement of motion.

Motion is a fundamental quality, and things are either in motion or they are not.

Everything that exists, whether only formally or also materially, is in some quality and number. The building blocks that bring about the qualities, and their characters and signs, are the elements that run like ABC’s from one extreme to the other; "and there is no branch of mathematics, however, abstract, which may not someday be applied to the phenomena of the real world."

So it is with motion, and all things in motion are formed and materialized in a continuum, always having at least four attributes of any quality or measure in

1. Magnitude
2. Degree of concentration
3. Level of refinement (excellence, efficiency)
4. Kind of origin

In this way, whether ascending or descending, decreasing or increasing, or maintaining an even keel and remaining at a constant level, and from most to least, operations that are in motion from linear or circular velocities are not the same. They are not of the exact same quality. The elements of linear and angular velocity are slightly different. They have different qualities as they go across their range.

V = w r is different from r = d/t. w incorporates pi, an endlessly repeating number, and even at the greatest speeds possible does not represent extension in space beyond “r,” the uniform curvature established by the radius. wr could be of some equivalence to d/t, but the circular motion implies a greater potential for concentration of force, because of the greater potential available from repetition in circular motion, so wr is almost like dt after multiplying d/t by t^2.

In the example of a merry-go-round, the spinning wheel will only go round at one speed per time. Even if it tilts or wobbles, it all tilts or wobbles together, and it cannot turn at two or more different speeds at the same time. A sound wheel or sphere will have only one volume of velocity per instant. All various radial extensions from the center will all go and change conformably with the integral motion of the axis at the center. Turning from one axis of origin, it will have simple uniformity of speed.

cantatedomino · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:10:25 PM »

DONACHIE: Because to an accidental tourist on a Ferris wheel, the overall force of motion feels greater on the outside of the wheel, does not mean that the spinning wheel is going around at two different speeds from the middle of the wheel to the edge.

The radius of a circle, whether in a wheel or in a sphere, is like the beam of a catapult. When King Edward I built Warwolf, the largest trebuchet in Britain at that time, it was built by design with a long beam because the greater length of the beam meant that the English army could launch bigger and heavier rocks at the Scottish. But however long the beam, when it was launched, it launched with one uniform motion from end to end.

For example, if there was a fellow A at the edge of a large Ferris wheel and another fellow B at the center, the leverage of momentum gathered by the fellow A on the outside, as a force, would be more mechanically advantageous to launching him further than B, because the mechanical advantage of leverage created for launching in that case is increased by the greater length. While the circular velocity is the same measure of speed for both men in so many revolutions per units of time, throughout the wheel, a greater leverage of momentum is gathered as a force in position A on the outside, and from there it is more mechanically advantageous and better leveraged for launching him further. Heavy weights and knuckleheads will fly farther if they are launched from further out on a big wheel.

Yet a moving vehicle and a moving wheel can only go one speed at a time and be in one place at a time. In physics, a simple body cannot go two or more different speeds at once, and it does not make any difference between a sphere or a standard wheel. In terms of simple velocity of motion, the difference between a sphere and wheel is a distinction without a difference. A car or motorcycle could be made that ran on perfectly spherical tires instead of the normal ones. Whatever rpms they would have would be essentially uniform and conformable to the whole ... as another simple body in motion. If a car is over the speed limit, the inside area of the tires near the center were not going slower. The car is not only partially over the speed limit from only the outsides of the tires.

So if the Earth were moving and revolving, it goes as a wagon wheel, and a spherical wagon wheel. It will spin with one speed at a time originating from the source of motion and extending throughout all its parts. As any one radius goes one speed, so all the other radii and segments in the sphere will go the same speed like the teeth of a comb, and the sphere itself from surface to center goes the same way.

It is like the integrated rotary motion of helicopter or lawn mower blades and the beaters of an electric hand-held mixer. They go one immediate speed at a time with the speed that is being applied. They can go slow, medium, or fast, but they will all go uniformly with one speed at a time.

If anyone wanted to contemplate the principle of essential uniformity of motion in an integrally sound sphere, further, then look as well at the wheels on a high wheel bicycle. Make the area of the wheels smooth with one mag wheel surface instead of spokes. Paint the smaller wheel, which in this case is ¼ the size of the larger wheel, blue with one white radius line. Paint blue the same 1/4 area of the larger wheel, and paint the remaining ¾ of the larger wheel red, with one white radius line through the blue and the red. Line the two white radii up horizontally to the ground. When they roll, the bigger wheel has by 4 a proportionally greater moment of inertia and longer radius, and it will turn proportionally slower than the littler wheel, as the bike goes down the road. Watch as the bicycle goes by, that the little blue wheel turns 4 times as fast as the bigger wheel. Although the blue areas in the two wheels are of the same radius, it will become evident that the blue area within the larger wheel turns slower and with the same speed as the bigger wheel. This is because the areas within either wheel are composed uniformly and move conformably with their respective origins of motion.

In the case of a high wheel bicycle, there are three origins of motion, two immediate and one remote, and three velocities. The remote origin of motion is from the pedals, chain, and the rider. This is the proximate cause. The two immediate ones are the two different wheels that necessarily turn at different rates from their forks. The two wheels of distinct proportion have two different velocities of rpm, one speed at a time, as the bike itself has one linear velocity per time, as it goes along ... into the traffic in front of the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic Compound of the UN.

The composition of essential parts within the wheels in motion must have only one speed at a time … and be in one place at a time and go one direction at a time. If there is another high wheel bicycle like the first, with a sturdy chessboard stuck in the middle of the wheels, each chessboard will turn at one uniform speed at a time, with one conformable motion to the whole from a1 to h8, with the same proportions of 1 to 4 between them as before, from big wheel to little wheel.

When it is separated from the bigger wheel, the smaller wheel must have greater angular velocity to have the same linear speed; and the entire bike itself, as a whole, is one vehicle in motion and must have one linear speed, place, and direction at a time, at all times. The high wheel bicycle cannot go two different speeds at the same time.

Everybody can notice these details, but nobody has ever been able to notice that the Earth spins, with separable latitudes or not, big wheels or little wheels, and with correct terms of ontology and motion all in order. Even simple and honest people everywhere and fools and wise men on golf courses have noticed this. Nobody notices it moving or turning on its axis. People can feel it like the weather and the atmosphere, and like the weather and the atmosphere this natural fact of awareness can even get into their bones.

cantatedomino · « **Reply #10 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:11:54 PM »

DONACHIE: If two separate runners on a large circular track are positioned with one on the far outside circuit and one on the nearest inside circuit, the one on the outside will have to run faster to keep up for a circuit around, because he would be covering a greater distance, and they would have separate origins of motion. If they were only connected by a string, to keep the string level between them, as they go around, the one on the inside route will not have to run as fast, and they would have separate origins of motion. They would not be composed as a simple body in motion, held together only by a string. They would not have a conformable origin of motion.

If the two runners ran in place at the same rate that it took for them to stay in line with the other one, when they are in forward motion around the track, then the fellow on the outside would be running faster in his place.

However, if they were seated on a long mechanized telephone pole that was horizontal to the ground, that was of one common origin of motion at the center, then with one runner seated at the end that is at the center, and the other at the edge, as the telephone pole rotated around, fast, medium, or slow, they would then be going the same circular velocity around, with one uniform origin of motion as in a simple body.

Since motion is a simple quality, all velocities can be generalized as slow, medium, or fast. Any given instance of motion in a simple body will always be at one measure per time. A simple body like the Earth, or the sun and the moon, cannot go two or more different speeds at once and be in two or more different places at the same time.

If heliocentrism were able to have its cake and eat it too, and have many separable velocities and separable motions at once, for all the different latitudes along the spherical curvature of the Earth, the math for them, still, is not right there, as they have it now. It is backwards.

Stepping back to look at the Earth from space, the Equator’s circuмference is about 24,902 miles and its radius is about 3964. The 60th parallel and all its neighborhoods comprise a singular circle half that size around. Therefore, based on gear ratios, it has half the moment of inertia and half the cogs of the Equatorial circuмference and should, therefore, turn twice as fast as the Equator to keep up for a day along its meridians. Littler wheels have to turn faster than bigger wheels to keep up for a day, and if a high wheel bicycle with a clown goes rolling by, the big wheel on his bike turns slower than the littler wheel. As a high wheel bicycle goes one speed or another per time, a big wheel twice the size of a little wheel will turn with half the radial velocity for any linear speed of the bike. The bigger wheel has a greater moment of inertia and radius and therefore turns slower than the littler wheel.

The ratios remain naturally consistent. A big wheel with four times the size of a little wheel will turn with one quarter the radial velocity of the little wheel and so on.

Since heliocentrism wants to have separable speeds and separable motions for different latitudes, see how crazy it is. If two parallels like the 60th and the Equator could be of divided origins of motion, as they were turning and rolling forward in space, they would have to spin at ratios exactly the opposite from what heliocentrism has posited for them today. The circuмference at the Equator is much greater, having twice the radius and twice the moment of inertia as the 60th parallel. The different speeds quoted today for these two different circles of the Earth should be the reverse, if they did have separate motions around.

If the Equator was separated out and affixed as the big wheel of a high wheel bike, and the 60th parallel was likewise separated out as the little wheel, then when put together in forward motion, in space, the heliocentric math there is backwards. The gear ratios are off. In terms of radial velocities being converted into linear ones, for any true forward motion in space, in separable parts, Quito, Ecuador, for example, should be spinning slower and half the speed of Helsinki, Finland, not 519 mph faster.

For one more example of heliocentric incongruities, by converting radial to linear velocity, the 75th parallel at the Arctic Circle, running through Norway, should be going four times as fast as any equatorial towns around the globe, to hit the same track at the same speed in outer space, but instead it is supposedly going 769 mph slower.

Having theorized that the Earth orbits the sun with no proof other than the progress of day and night, and then figuring first from time to the exclusion of space for their crazy numbers, they have encountered accidentally a few persistent and inevitable problems. It seems too ridiculous for heliocentrism to be considered rational cosmology.

It has been correct to say that there is a universal 24 hour day around the earth, but it has been incorrect to say that the Earth spins at many different speeds along its latitudes to account for this. It has been incorrect to say that the Earth can move several different speeds at once, or be in more than one place at a time, or that there can be more than one Earth. There can only be one Earth, and this is the only one that it is, being full of “haecceitas,” for better or worse. Similar to Alexander the Great’s saying that “Heaven cannot brook two suns, nor Earth two masters”, “Heaven cannot brook two suns, nor Earth two different codes of time and space.”

Heliocentrism is the wrong code because even if the terrestrial sphere were orbiting the sun at 66,600 mph, which is 29.8 km/s, which it most certainly is not, it could not be rotating and moving in space around the sun and with the solar system with many separable speeds and motions without coming apart.

cantatedomino · « **Reply #11 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:13:12 PM »

DONACHIE: If the horse was not dead and it did need to be beaten some more, the Freemasonix top, money laundering, brass at NASA could take the time to study an old fashioned stereo turntable. Look at a little 45 or bigger 33 record go around. It can only go one speed at a time. The stereo turntable can only rotate one speed at a time. When a 45 record is played at the correct speed, it plays at that speed from the beginning of the song to the end. When it is played too fast, it sounds funny from the beginning of the song to the end. When a 33 album is played, all the songs will have the same tempo from the speed at which the turntable is played.

Like a record player, a ball or a solid sphere with density like the Earth can only spin one speed at a time. Even with the oceans, the land masses are substantial enough that it is the same with the Earth. The Earth cannot be spinning at many different speeds along its latitudes at once, but this sort of idiocy, that the Earth should be flying and spinning through space around the Sun at many different speeds at once, is what heliocentrism would have you believe. This way the spherical curvature of the Earth and the universal 24 hour day prove that the Earth is not moving, and that the Sun orbits the Earth.

If the earth is in motion, it is in motion in "stereo," from the Greek "stereo," meaning solid. And if it is at rest, it is at rest in "stereo," and then the stars and planets of the cosmos are in motion in "stereo" around it.

For one last illustration of rational categories and details of motion sorting
themselves out according to simplicity and kind, look at the three hands of a ticking clock. When the hands of the clock go round, as the day progresses, tick tock and the mouse runs up the clock, when the clock strikes one, 30” is 30”. 30” is 30” wherever any one goes, and at that time the three hands of the clock will always look the same. It is a universal sign that it is 1 o'clock...

When the hands have gone around more and the clock strikes nine, 90” is 90”, and wherever even the best of many things may have gone and disappeared, the three hands of the clock always look the same.

So on and so forth, alwaysthemore and nevertheless, people will see that ticking clocks of whatever size show the same time in hours, minutes, and seconds, when they are synchronized within the same time zone, because of the universal nature of their signs and the qualities of motion. From one clock to another, from the biggest to the smallest and with great differences in radius, each kind of hand ... minute, seconds, hour ... turns in the type, quality, and category of its motion, all along its length. They tick off their marks in a uniform way, conforming to the origin, quality, and type of their motion. This is because motion is not only a dream but an ontological character of things that are specifically real. Because of the universal nature in time of these signs and marks of motion, all clocks of whatever sizes show the same qualities and range of movement in their different kinds across all magnitudes.

When a radial velocity and rotary motion is of a unitary and conformable origin, it is whatever speed, fast, slow, or medium all at once per the instance of time all along the radius. And radial velocity between a wheel and a sphere is a distinction without a difference.

cantatedomino · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:15:52 PM »

DONACHIE: The world of clocks and gears and wheels of motion add constantly to the proof that motion is a real and specific quality. It is a genus distributed in many simple kinds from slowest to medium and fastest. The typology of its kinds is a range that is full of detectable aspects and detectability, fundamentally contradicting Galileo and the heliocentric idea of the undetectable motion of the Earth.

A clock the size of Texas and another the size of Liechtenstein and a third the size of a child’s hand all work at the same rates. No matter the size, stopped clocks always have the right time at least two times a day worldwide. Like the celestial degrees, minutes, and seconds of arc around the Earth, the hours, minutes, and seconds of clocks are “in stereo.” “In stereo,” not meaning loud or anything to do with HBO, but from the Greek "stereos," meaning "solid," which means this is not an illusion. It is solid and it is real.

The math of it is universal, and it is not universal from a priority of the quantity and hugeness of big numbers over quality. In other words, understanding cosmology and the actual nature of the cosmos, and of time and space, is not a priority of grasping size and gigantic numbers spread over vast distances, but it is a priority of understanding angles and aspects. The cosmos is not like the blob or a heap. It is more like a diamond, and there is quality over quantity.

Numbers themselves represent not only quantity but quality and are finite. That way the cosmos is finite also. The cosmos is spherical, and the cosmos is the cosmos in one total by all parts, being the only one that it is. It can only be in time one unique number and arrow code at a time, and the Earth is a universal atomic clock.

Motion cannot take place in an instant, but an aspect is universal and can
characterize motion as closely to an instant as possible. If someone said he had the fastest arrow with which he could tell the passing universal atomic clock time of Earth and the cosmos, half a half a half a second sooner than the best available time up until then, in the fastest fraction of a second, it could be possible. But if he got better and better at it, whittling the half a half a half a seconds down to quarter seconds of those, and then littler and littler fractions of a second, he would very soon be left with only another instance of an aspect beholding from the circle of degrees, of any clock and the Heavens above.

All nanoseconds end in an aspect and within one degree of 360 in 3-D. This is what they are aiming at to begin with.

This is simply to say that the size of the cosmos does not have priority over the quality of its aspects, and two prime aspects of its character overall are 1) the Earth is not moving and 2) the natural order of the universe is finite.

How could anybody say the cosmos is bigger than the elements, and that the elements are huge? Atoms are gigantic? Atoms are tiny. How could anybody say the cosmos is bigger than the table of elements? The cosmos is not bigger than the elements of which it is composed, and the cosmos is entirely and inescapably elemental. How could the cosmos ever have extension beyond the elements, that are the very aspects of its code?

How would anybody say the elements are the elements according to anything other than their type? How does anybody imagine the elements are not as big as the cosmos?

Therefore, the formal property of the cosmos is “small” like a mustard seed. It is finite and its priority is in the seal of it, not the size. After all, it is only composed of elements, and the elements are not big.

Gold is gold only when it is more than a particle of gold? Any aspect however small that is in the littlest amount of gold is gold.

A collection of aspects in a diamond are the same aspects no matter the size, and the mathematical and logical priority of the cosmos is not in its size, but in the quality of its aspects. A dodecahedron the size of Texas is a dodecahedron, as well as another the size of a sand pebble.

A given type of angle is the same angle no matter the extension in space. A given type of figure is the same figure and set of proportions, representing a crystal seal of aspects, no matter how enlarged or diminutive the combination. A combination to a code is the same combination to that code no matter the size. If the C.I.A. can put the code in a tiny pin, there it is, and each of the five Platonic solids is the same item no matter the size.

Heliocentrism, on the other hand, is all out of proportion and all out of sorts. It is mixed up so bad that it is off the chain and insane in the membrane. With everything that is so wrong with it, in the inner workings, could it be something they caught from some mystery of the moon? Something from a bad moon in Scorpio perhaps? Would a bad or weird moon rising have something to do with it?

cantatedomino · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:22:19 PM »

ST. THOMAS AQUINAS: The Philosopher [Aristotle] in the Book of Predicaments (Categor. vi) reckons disposition and habit as the first species of quality.

For quality, properly speaking, implies a certain mode of substance. Now mode, as Augustine says (Gen. ad lit. iv, 3), "is that which a measure determines": wherefore it implies a certain determination according to a certain measure. Therefore, just as that in accordance with which the material potentiality [potentia materiae] is determined to its substantial being, is called quality, which is a difference affecting the substance, so that, in accordance with the potentiality of the subject is determined to its accidental being, is called an accidental quality, which is also a kind of difference, as is clear from the Philosopher (Metaph. v, text. 19).

Now the mode of determination of the subject to accidental being may be taken in regard to the very nature of the subject, or in regard to action, and passion resulting from its natural principles, which are matter and form; or again in regard to quantity. If we take the mode or determination of the subject in regard to quantity, we shall then have the fourth species of quality. And because quantity, considered in itself, is devoid of movement, and does not imply the notion of good or evil, so it does not concern the fourth species of quality whether a thing be well or ill disposed, nor quickly or slowly transitory. (See S.T. I-II, q. 49, a. 2)

cantatedomino · « **Reply #14 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:23:45 PM »

DONACHIE: Beyond Foucault pendulums, the pervasive 24 hour day of Earth, common sense physics and mathematics of spheres, and the best interferometer and interferential refractometer experiments, and the detectable undetectable motion of the Earth, ten key things about the moon positively disprove heliocentrism:

1. The Moon goes from East to West across the dome of the sky, orbiting the Earth clockwise when viewed from above the North Pole.

2. It orbits the Earth in an average of about 24 hours and 50 minutes (48-52 minutes) every day.

3. When it is closer to Earth at perigee it travels slower, not faster, than when it is further away at apogee.

4. The stars and planets of the ecliptic that are more distant than the Moon, and in particular the ones in its immediate background, are all visibly passing the Moon every day. They are all orbiting the earth from East to West also, but faster. The Sun and the 5 traditional planets, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Venus and Mercury, are orbiting the earth from East to West. Venus and Mercury are the only two planets that orbit the Sun, but they orbit the Earth in weaves as they orbit the Sun.

5. The duration and quality of the aspects and phases it forms with the other planets and stars of the ecliptic show that the Earth is not moving.

6. These aspects also indicate that the metaxological character and isometric panorama of the Earth is unique and that it is in, and in between, all signs of the ecliptic all the time. The Earth is the only star that is in all the signs all the time always.

I would not call the Earth a star, but simply the Earth.

7. In the sky, the Moon has the same angular diameter as the Sun, 30 arcminutes, and the shadows of all eclipses fall to the East. The shadows of eclipses fall slowly and progress to the East without the Earth ever turning or spinning away from underneath them.

8. It orbits the Earth within a distributed range of uniform curvature, that is it orbits the Earth as in a range of circles not in an ellipse, and all long exposure star trail photography demonstrates this as well.

9. It does not rotate ... and neither does the Earth.

10. It does not affect the Earth’s tides. There is an extensive and powerful neutral gravity zone between the Earth and the Moon. In fact, gravity is neither a lateral nor a vertical force, and the Moon does not circle the Earth because of gravity. It circuits the Earth from an extra-terrestrial momentum that is generated in its own sphere.