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Maria Auxiliadora · « **on:** March 04, 2015, 07:38:09 PM »

Video of their pilgrimage to Rome with Fr. Pfugger and other priests. Poor Dominicans! The video says it all.

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/03/ewtn-video-on-sspx-related-dominican.html

stgobnait · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2015, 01:49:03 AM »

'Come into my parlor, said the spider to the fly' :stare:

covet truth · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2015, 07:50:15 AM »

Before you all get carried away with rashly judging the Dominican Sisters, you should know that the announcement for this pilgrimage was made known to the nuns at least three years ago. I know because we were in Fanjeaux when it was told to them and then to us by one of the Dominicans. It was made in thanksgiving for the 40 years of their formation when they left behind the N.O. Dominicans to start over. As Mother General told all those present in Rome, the reasons for what they did in 1975 still remain true in 2015, 40 years later.

It upsets me that this pilgrimage is being exploited by some in Rome and, perhaps by some in Menzingen, to further their own agendas.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2015, 07:51:57 AM »

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Canes Dómini?
More like,
Bishops Fellay and De Galerreta's loyal members .

Just to clarify, this comment was meant to be ironic, a play on words to imply that I diasgree with the Dominican sisters remaining loyal to the Superiors of a seperate order without necessity of guarding the Faith and Tradition instead of remaining loyal to their lawful superiors.

I intended no unjust disrespect with my comments.

If possible I would like to ask that the comment is removed by the moderator, so as not to be misinterpreted in a sinful fashion.

Thanks.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:22:40 AM »

Should not every Catholic's heart be in Rome?

covet truth · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:24:19 AM »

I would like to ask what exactly is wrong with making a pilgrimage to Rome? As Catholics, Rome belongs to US. Just because it is occupied with the enemies of the Church does not mean we just let them have it. By the presence of Traditionals and in particular 200 nuns, 1000 children and 300 parents, it sends the message that we are not going away. I think that is a most uplifting and courageous message.

In addition, permission was asked, several times, by Mother General to be allowed to have Mass in one of the churches in Rome. Each request was denied. However, Rome offered to allow Mass for them with a priest of Rome's choosing. Mother General said, "No"! So, Mass was offered in a large and sparse conference room not far from St. Peter's by priests from the Society who accompanied them (at least 12). Yes, these nuns depend on the Society for priests but don't think for one moment that that means they would go along with any practical agreement. They are true and loyal followers of Archbishop Lefebvre and Father Calmel who formed them.

covet truth · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:32:20 AM »

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Should not every Catholic's heart be in Rome?

It better be! It is our home even though it is occupied by squatters right now.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:32:34 AM »

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Rome is the external expression of the spiritual Church which materializes, so to speak, here. ... We have explained it to the children, and I think they have understood.

These are the fruits of many years of SSPX invisible vs. visible Church theology ... which of course goes back to pre-Vatican II anti-EENS thinking and ecclesiology.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:34:33 AM »

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In addition, permission was asked, several times, by Mother General to be allowed to have Mass in one of the churches in Rome. Each request was denied.

But bring a Buddha statue, and they'll clear out the tabernacle for you to put it on top. Or call yourself Orthodox, and Francis would make haste to concelebrate.

covet truth · « **Reply #9 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:51:32 AM »

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In addition, permission was asked, several times, by Mother General to be allowed to have Mass in one of the churches in Rome. Each request was denied.

But bring a Buddha statue, and they'll clear out the tabernacle for you to put it on top. Or call yourself Orthodox, and Francis would make haste to concelebrate.

Yes, you're right and I think that makes the point that nothing has changed for those who keep the Faith as handed down to us from the beginning up to Vat II.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:54:24 AM »

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In addition, permission was asked, several times, by Mother General to be allowed to have Mass in one of the churches in Rome. Each request was denied.

But bring a Buddha statue, and they'll clear out the tabernacle for you to put it on top. Or call yourself Orthodox, and Francis would make haste to concelebrate.

Yes, you're right and I think that makes the point that nothing has changed for those who keep the Faith as handed down to us from the beginning up to Vat II.

I'm guessing that there are elements within the Vatican still sympathetic to Tradition, such as the one bishop who was interviewed ... but Francis is not one of those. Francis refuses to "judge" anyone ... except always has condescending and bitter words against Traditional Catholics and even conversative Novus Ordites.

covet truth · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2015, 09:05:00 AM »

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In addition, permission was asked, several times, by Mother General to be allowed to have Mass in one of the churches in Rome. Each request was denied.

But bring a Buddha statue, and they'll clear out the tabernacle for you to put it on top. Or call yourself Orthodox, and Francis would make haste to concelebrate.

Yes, you're right and I think that makes the point that nothing has changed for those who keep the Faith as handed down to us from the beginning up to Vat II.

I'm guessing that there are elements within the Vatican still sympathetic to Tradition, such as the one bishop who was interviewed ... but Francis is not one of those. Francis refuses to "judge" anyone ... except always has condescending and bitter words against Traditional Catholics and even conversative Novus Ordites.

Of course, there must be some of those and I pity them to have to work in "occupied territory".

I share an anecdote from this pilgrimage that was told to me. As the group was in St. Peter's Square beginning the procession into St. Peter's, someone in the group telephoned to a Monsignor who works in the Vatican. He told him to look out of his window. The Monsignor replied, "Everyone is looking out of their window right now!"

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:40:07 AM »

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In addition, permission was asked, several times, by Mother General to be allowed to have Mass in one of the churches in Rome. Each request was denied.

But bring a Buddha statue, and they'll clear out the tabernacle for you to put it on top. Or call yourself Orthodox, and Francis would make haste to concelebrate.

Yes, you're right and I think that makes the point that nothing has changed for those who keep the Faith as handed down to us from the beginning up to Vat II.

I'm guessing that there are elements within the Vatican still sympathetic to Tradition, such as the one bishop who was interviewed ... but Francis is not one of those. Francis refuses to "judge" anyone ... except always has condescending and bitter words against Traditional Catholics and even conversative Novus Ordites.

Of course, there must be some of those and I pity them to have to work in "occupied territory".

I share an anecdote from this pilgrimage that was told to me. As the group was in St. Peter's Square beginning the procession into St. Peter's, someone in the group telephoned to a Monsignor who works in the Vatican. He told him to look out of his window. The Monsignor replied, "Everyone is looking out of their window right now!"

Let me guess: It was Fr. Pfluger (the Judas goat) calling to show off all the souls they will be leading into the slaughter.

covet truth · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:55:44 AM »

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Let me guess: It was Fr. Pfluger (the Judas goat) calling to show off all the souls they will be leading into the slaughter.

I don't know who it was that made the call but I sympathize with what you are saying. When I saw him putting himself in a "leadership" position on this pilgrimage it made me cringe. I felt then that the Dominicans were being used.

covet truth · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2015, 12:06:24 PM »

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Let me guess: It was Fr. Pfluger (the Judas goat) calling to show off all the souls they will be leading into the slaughter.

I don't know who it was that made the call but I sympathize with what you are saying. When I saw him putting himself in a "leadership" position on this pilgrimage it made me cringe. I felt then that the Dominicans were being used.

I might also add, don't count them out. They will not go silently into an abyss. Archbishop Lefebvre went often to Fanjeaux to seek their advice. They are well seasoned in this fight for the Faith.