Author Topic: Does your SSPX priest remove his Chasuble (Read 3900 times)

Stubborn · « **on:** May 10, 2015, 02:03:28 PM »

Not sure why but for the last two weeks before the sermon, the priest removed his Chasuble for the sermon. He put it back on after the sermon for the rest of the Mass but I'm just wondering if this is something new only for my chapel or is it a new practice at any other SSPX chapels?

I do not know what they do at the NO churches but seems like I saw some youtubes that had the NO priest giving a sermon without his chasuble so I'm just wondering.

I do find it a bit odd that out of the blue, he just started doing this as if this is the way he's always done it, with no comment about it or explanation. All he has is his Alb, Stole and Cincture and he wears his Biretta.

I will ask him about it next week, but was just curious to see if they started doing this at any other SSPX chapel.

ark of covenant · « **Reply #1 on:** May 10, 2015, 02:32:09 PM »

Hello stubborn, this has always been done in France. It is customary, but I believe they are doing this to unify the SSPX rubrically like all that is done in France. I have experienced that in Ireland also.

waugh · « **Reply #2 on:** May 10, 2015, 02:39:55 PM »

I remember in our SSPX chapel about 15+ years ago the priest doing this. He was French. We have had several French priests since, but none have done this since then.

Stubborn · « **Reply #3 on:** May 10, 2015, 02:43:02 PM »

Thanks. I was thinking it may have had something to do with that.

Since we got this priest some 2 or 3 years ago, we only say the Leonine Prayers after Low Mass when a visiting priest celebrates the Mass because the Leonine Prayers after Low Mass are not customary in France - I did not know that either till we got this priest.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #4 on:** May 10, 2015, 02:54:18 PM »

A few years ago, when we attended the Society chapel in Chile, the English speaking priest mentioned that their customs were changing because of 'the Frenchies', as he called them, and they HAD to comply. "Lots of changes coming" he said.
The Leonine prayers only offered by one priest after Low Mass prompted me to ask him. However, they did not remove the chasuble, and I've not witnessed it yet in other chapels.

Stubborn · « **Reply #5 on:** May 10, 2015, 03:11:25 PM »

Thanks again.

I hate it when some things like this change without any explanation - normally I wouldn't give it a second thought but not these days - and I don't think the priest should just change any thing without any explanation.

These harmless changes probably shouldn't make me so suspicious like they do, but why the heck does he make these changes without saying a word about it till he gets questioned by 4 or 5 different suspicious parishioners?

I will err on the side of caution and look at them as a precursor to important changes until proven otherwise.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2015, 03:43:59 PM »

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normally I wouldn't give it a second thought but not these days

Amen. Sad but true, we're now as conditioned as Pavlov's dog to be suspicious of everything, when we should have a spirit of innocence, trusting our clergy to always have the salvation of souls uppermost in mind. Those days are long gone.

curioustrad · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2015, 05:02:36 PM »

Actually the removal of the chasuble has nothing whatsoever to do with the "Frenchies" or the SSPX it has to do with the fact that liturgically the sermon is not part of the Mass. To emphasize this the rule is that the priest removes his maniple if he preaches from the altar and his chasuble as well if he preaches from the pulpit especially if the pulpit is outside the sanctuary. Lazy priests did not observe this practice and so the custom has fallen into disuse. Even the film "Going My Way" with Bing Crosby shows the old parish priest preaching at one point in the pulpit without his chasuble but vested in alb with crossed stole. I mention this because Pius XII particularly liked this film but also it shows the pains taken to make the film conform to actual Catholic liturgical practice in the 1940s even if Fr. didn't usually sing to his parishioners "I hope that you're going my way too".

Now that I posted this I found great disagreement here

Marlelar · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2015, 11:05:46 PM »

Quote from: Stubborn

Not sure why but for the last two weeks before the sermon, the priest removed his Chasuble for the sermon. He put it back on after the sermon for the rest of the Mass but I'm just wondering if this is something new only for my chapel or is it a new practice at any other SSPX chapels?

This is not done at the Phoenix chapel.

TKGS · « **Reply #9 on:** May 11, 2015, 06:08:27 AM »

It seems rather strange to me that the SSPX seems to want the entire world to adopt everything according to French tastes. Of course, the French have been so wonderful since 1789, who can complain?

trento · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2015, 09:07:00 AM »

When an American priest was stationed at our chapel, he introduced his American practices....go figure.

Pilar · « **Reply #11 on:** May 11, 2015, 04:06:18 PM »

Quote from: TKGS

It seems rather strange to me that the SSPX seems to want the entire world to adopt everything according to French tastes. Of course, the French have been so wonderful since 1789, who can complain?

I suppose if a Spaniard had founded the Society, we may have things according to Spanish tastes. The man who almost single-handedly has saved the priesthood and Tradition happened to be French. And so were many, if not most, of his earliest seminarians and professors.

Why pick on the French? Almost no country has been wonderful since 1789.

Peter15and1 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 11, 2015, 04:20:05 PM »

I have never seen this done. I have heard of, but not seen, the priest removing his maniple for the sermon, but not his chasuble.