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(With Fr. Girouard's permission)

Father wants to know if Neo-SSPX priests have preached on the Symbol (AKA Creed) of St. Athanasius today.

Until John XXIII, all Clerics and Religious Men and Women were obliged by Holy Mother Church to recite it every Sunday morning, at the Divine Office of Prime.

The purpose of this Creed is to expose all the Truths one has to firmly believe if he wants to escape Eternal Fire. The Creed explains in detail what is the Most Holy Trinity, and it is proper to preach about it on Trinity Sunday.

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1-Before the sermon proper, Father talks about Fatherhood. Feminists and wokes be warned. 2-The explanation on the Creed of St. Athanasius starts around the 09:00 minutes mark.
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Subject: June 15th, 2025: Sermon, Feast of the Most Holy Trinity.
 
Dear friends,

I hope you are keeping strong.

Listen to my reflections on Father's Day and the role of men and fathers.

With love and blessings,

Fr. Girouard

SERMON SUMMARY: The reading and explanation of St. Athanasius' Creed. This is the great saint who was almost the only Bishop who kept the Catholic Faith during the 4th Century. He was exiled many times because of his fight against Arianism. His Creed (also called "Symbolum") exposes all we need to firmly believe if we want to be saved. We understand how great a gift it is to have the Faith. In this sermon, I also have a reflection about Funerals/Weddings/Religious Life/Marriage. We need the BVM to help us be strong and faithful. I hope the SSPX priests today will have recited this Symbol of St. Athanasius to their faithful. I doubt it. Let me know if they did.

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(With Fr. Girouard's permission)

Father wants to know if Neo-SSPX priests have preached on the Symbol (AKA Creed) of St. Athanasius today.
Yes, the priest recited the Athanasian Creed and that was the topic of his sermon for Trinity Sunday at my SSPX.
"But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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Yes, the priest recited the Athanasian Creed and that was the topic of his sermon for Trinity Sunday at my SSPX.
The Athanasian Creed was referenced several times in an SSPX’s priests sermon yesterday. He usually sends it to me. 

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Yes, the priest recited the Athanasian Creed and that was the topic of his sermon for Trinity Sunday at my SSPX.
The Athanasian Creed was referenced several times in an SSPX’s priests sermon yesterday. He usually sends it to me.
Thank you to both of you, Stubborn and Seraphina. Would you mind telling us the locations? Last news from Canada is from the big Toronto parish: There was no mention of the Athanasian Creed.

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In the northeastern USA. I’m saying exactly where or which priest because the SSPX is unfortunately plagued with wagging tongues and careless thumbs. Certain people enjoy creating scandals where none exist, which is why I’m only an occasional visitor. 


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The Athanasian Creed was not mentioned at Christ the King in Langley, BC this Trinity Sunday.


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The Athanasian Creed was mentioned in the Priory in Wimbeldon and St Joesph's church in London aswell. It varies from Priest to Priest I suppose
Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:

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The Athanasian Creed was mentioned in the Priory in Wimbeldon and St Joesph's church in London aswell. It varies from Priest to Priest I suppose
They have placed themselves under a practical agreement with Rome since 2012, it is no longer the “SSPX” but the “Neo-SSPX” there may be some old dogs lying around, but this “Neo-SSPX” is an ecclesia dei community “practically.”


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In the northeastern USA. I’m saying exactly where or which priest because the SSPX is unfortunately plagued with wagging tongues and careless thumbs. Certain people enjoy creating scandals where none exist, which is why I’m only an occasional visitor.
Thank you. It would help to know the places / priests we could trust more. It is unfortunate that the Neo-SSPX has created since 2012 a climate of fear in the parishes they control.

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They have placed themselves under a practical agreement with Rome since 2012, it is no longer the “SSPX” but the “Neo-SSPX” there may be some old dogs lying around, but this “Neo-SSPX” is an ecclesia dei community “practically.”
Yes. The SSPX frog is in the water since 2012, and it is getting warmer and warmer. Soon the frog will be cooked.

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The Athanasian Creed was mentioned in the Priory in Wimbeldon and St Joesph's church in London aswell. It varies from Priest to Priest I suppose
True. So far, it looks like Canada is the most liberal. Its District Superior is Fr. Leroux, who took over the US seminary in 2003, after +Williamson was sent to Argentina by +Fellay. He shaped the new priests in the US for 20 years. It used to be the whole SSPX was strong doctrinally. Now we have a few scattered priests who remain strong.


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In my experience, the climate of fear predates 2012. It was due to a gang of older parishioners, the majority female, who were the bank vault. They took control of every priest who passed through, and if he didn’t do their bidding, they got rid of him. New parishioners who had money and political influence had to either join them or get frozen out. New people automatically represented a threat until it was clear you were just a nobody who stayed invisible. A lot of them have gone to their judgements, and now their children and grandchildren have taken their places. Combine them with the right SSPX leaders and it makes for a congregation with a dangerous rip tide beneath the surface. I learned to steer clear of it by going directly to the confession line, directly to the altar rail to say my penance, to the pew for Mass, stay behind in the pew until most people have gone, then out the door to the car. Call me antisocial, but I’ve been burned too many times. If someone really desires to befriend me, they can figure out how to contact me.

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Glad to hear Father Girouard is still speaking out clearly. I quietly stopped attending the SSPX last year. It was hard, but I kept asking myself—how can we say we’re in the Resistance if we keep supporting compromise?

It’s not getting better. It’s getting more silent.
And with Fr. Robinson now editing Angelus Press, the trajectory seems even clearer.

God help us stay faithful.



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They have placed themselves under a practical agreement with Rome since 2012, it is no longer the “SSPX” but the “Neo-SSPX” there may be some old dogs lying around, but this “Neo-SSPX” is an ecclesia dei community “practically.”
Oh yeah sure I wouldn't deny that. a year ago England and especially London was quite Old Guard, we had Fr Hennick (He left to join the Sede Community), Fr Lindstrum and Fr Clifton (Quasi-Resistance). The only Priest that kept them inline with the SSPX Company was Fr Lainsey (The Mastermind)
Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:

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Oh yeah sure I wouldn't deny that. a year ago England and especially London was quite Old Guard, we had Fr Hennick (He left to join the Sede Community), Fr Lindstrum and Fr Clifton (Quasi-Resistance). The only Priest that kept them inline with the SSPX Company was Fr Lainsey (The Mastermind)
Forgot aswell Fr Brucciani. He was a mediocre District Superior however his Brother is a lovely Priest and a great Head master who runs the St Michaels School
Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface: