Seriously, please meditate on this one:

You have some altercation between, say, Mr. Hat and Mr. Coy. The conflict started when Mr. Hat ran over Mr. Coy's dog. So it was originally about restitution and apologizing for killing a neighbor's dog.

But then Mr. Coy tilled up Mr. Hat's entire garden.
Then Mr. Hat "girdled" 6 of Mr. Coy's trees (girdling = cutting a ring 1/4 inch deep all the way around the base of a tree will totally kill the tree)
Then Mr. Coy set Mr. Hat's front yard on fire, during the dry season.
Later, Mr. Hat set Mr. Coy's garage on fire, trying to make it look like an accident.
A week later, Mr. Coy set Mr. Hat's garage on fire, which caught his house on fire. It burned to the ground.
Mr. Hat had to move to a different area, but the hatred seethed. 20 years later, his children were trained to hate Mr. Coy and his family.

Mr. Hat's oldest son, Cowboy, eventually hit Mrs. Coy with his truck -- there were no skid marks before the collision. Witnesses said the truck actually SPED UP before the collision.

And so it continued for years.

Now let's pause the action for a moment. If you asked Mr. Coy how to resolve this conflict, he'd say, "When all the Hats are dead!" Why? "They're devils, that's why! I can't learn to live next to the devil! That's ridiculous."

What about restitution for the dog? Does Mr. Coy even remember the dog that Mr. Hat ran over originally? Probably not. The conflict has seethed, grown, escalated, and a habit of fighting has nurtured anger -- and constant anger has morphed into hatred (as it always does).

It's hard to maintain CHARITY and RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION for decades, without either A) giving up on the indignation or B) letting the indignation breed HATRED of the men in the Vatican we oppose.

Here is a more concise summary of my thoughts:


I was thinking: during WW2, when America had to get all 130 million people on board the war, they certainly didn't use logic and well-defined parameters to circuмscribe their conflict with the Germans and Japanese. That would be too cuмbersome -- simplified propaganda is much easier. But even if they started out trying to define the exact parameters of the conflict, some individuals would always go a step further, and those who didn't would seem to be "traitors" or "enemy sympathizers". So the typical mob dynamic of peer pressure enters into play. I can imagine trying to reason with an angry mob!

This happens on almost every CathInfo thread. A discussion critical of X might start out good, but a few members always go too far in their criticism.

In any story, it's a common theme that when a war goes on for more than one generation, both sides forget about what it was originally about, instead settling into a simple holding pattern of jingoism and hatred. The other side is the devil, no compromise, everything is black & white, etc. Countless books and movies, old and new, have touched on this theme, so it must be true.

I think this has happened with many Traditionalists, with regards to Rome being our enemy. They remember that Rome is the enemy, but they have forgotten under what aspects, for what reasons, etc. All distinctions have been lost. Now Rome is just the "seat of of the Antichrist" with jingoism and sedevacantist rhetoric carrying the day.